Let's Invade Pakistan

Fall Down Blue · 02-12-2004, 12:13 PM

Seriously, these guys have done worse crimes than Iraq. General Musharref has no incentive to help find bin Laden, because once he's found basically the US won't need his help anymore. They've waffled on whether or not this next story was true, first by denying it, then admitting it and then pardoning the man "responsible" for it. There is no doubt in my mind that this guy is a fall guy and scapegoat and the government knew about this all along. At the end I will provide links to other articles about it, but I'm posting this one even though it's a week old because I haven't seen a thread about it yet.

If any nation deserves to pay the price for indiscretion involving WMD, it's Pakistan... however, the US so far has decided to "support" them. How can we "support" a nation that publicly "pardons" the man who sold nukes to to North Korea, Iran and Libya?!

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiap...lear/index.html

Pakistan nuclear hero 'confesses'
Monday, February 2, 2004 Posted: 6:46 AM EST (1146 GMT)

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (CNN) -- The man who founded Pakistan's nuclear program has confessed to transferring nuclear technology to North Korea, Iran and Libya, a government official told CNN Monday.

By the end of the week, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf is expected to address the nation and disclose the information *******d in Abdul Qadeer Khan's written confession.

The government maintains it has not sanctioned the transfer of any nuclear secrets.

Khan, regarded as a national hero, is being kept under tight security at his home in Islamabad, the official said. He is not allowed to leave or use the telephone.

Ahead of the admission, Pakistan had removed him from a government advisory post in the midst of an investigation into allegations that Pakistani officials shared nuclear technology with other nations, including Iran and Libya.

A government statement said Khan, who held a ministerial-level position, was removed from the post "to facilitate those investigations in a free and objective manner."

Up to this point, Khan had not been labeled a suspect. But Pakistani officials admitted the investigation has centered on him.

In December, Pakistan said some Pakistanis may have sold secrets, after U.N. inspections of Iranian nuclear facilities showed that "Pakistani-linked individuals" had acted as "intermediaries and black marketeers."

Pakistani scientists were later implicated in a scheme to sell high-tech centrifuge technology to Libya. They also have been named in probes into North Korea's nuclear program.

Pakistan has detained three former army officers and three people in the country's nuclear program as part of an investigation into the possible spread of the country's nuclear weapons technology, Pakistani intelligence sources said last month.

Top Pakistani officials, including Musharraf, attended a special session of the National Command Authority (NCA) Saturday to review the progress of the investigation. They issued a statement reiterating "Pakistan's strong resolve and commitment in adherence to international agreements of non-proliferation."

"It would never be in the national interest to share this technology in whatever form with any other country," the statement said.

The statement also said the government "condemns and distances itself in categorical terms from individual acts of indiscretion in the past," adding it was certain no such acts had taken place since the NCA was established in February 2000.

--------------------------------------------

Here's the denial:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiap...lear/index.html

In related news, shocker! Nukes found in Iran:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast...r.ap/index.html

So, should we go to war or not? Should we at least publicly condemn Pakistan? Sanctions? UN intervention? Why doesn't the UN seem to give a shit about this?

Mayfuck · 02-12-2004, 12:17 PM

Too bad there's no oil in Pakistan. How can we expect to liberate a country when they don't have any oil to offer us

MstrGhost · 02-12-2004, 12:19 PM

"Europeans Unite, let's invade USA. They are rulled by a crazy demented dictator that loves to invade countries for economical reasons. I promise a cheerleader for every European."

Mayfuck · 02-12-2004, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MstrGhost
"Europeans Unite, let's invade USA. They are rulled by a crazy demented dictator that loves to invade countries for economical reasons. I promise a cheerleader for every European."

Yes!

Liberate us

Nimrod · Nimrod

Jesus Christ on a stick, you are the biggest troll ever. What's your obsession with me? Now you're duplicating my threads, too? Do you sit at home and think "how can I obsess over Nimrod today, I wonder?"

Dude, seriously, get your own life and seek professional help.

02-12-2004, 02:44 PM	#9
FaII Down Blue Apocalyptic Poster Location: i think rumsfeld should be king because hes a real patriot. just the other day i saw him testifying on the 9/11 commission and some guy asked him about y he didnt stop the plane attacks and he was like "i dnot know, f you fags" lol. Posts: 3,340

sppunk · 02-12-2004, 02:44 PM

Haha.

slunky_munky · 02-12-2004, 02:55 PM

It fits all the criteria for Bush's war on terror. It should probably be #2 on the axis of evil behind Saudi Arabia.

It will be left well alone.

Mayfuck · 02-12-2004, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by slunky_munky
It fits all the criteria for Bush's war on terror. It should probably be #2 on the axis of evil behind Saudi Arabia.

It will be left well alone.

Bush's criteria for terror also allows space for diplomacy. There is still a lot of diplomacy left to be done with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Ditto for North Korea. Unlike Iraq, those regimes have offered some sort of cooperation to an extent, whereas Iraq hardly offered any.

MercuryChild · 02-12-2004, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nimrod

"how can I obsess over trykristin today, I wonder?"

hypocrite

Fall Down Blue · 02-12-2004, 04:39 PM

down with pakistan, right nimrod?

slunky_munky · 02-12-2004, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mayfuck
Bush's criteria for terror also allows space for diplomacy. There is still a lot of diplomacy left to be done with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Ditto for North Korea. Unlike Iraq, those regimes have offered some sort of cooperation to an extent, whereas Iraq hardly offered any.

True, but I doubt the US (alone or with allies) would ever try to instigate change in Pakistan in any forceful way simply because it would be an enormous task that the public would not buy.

Diplomacy isn't a policy that Bush has designed for himself. It's his only practical option when it comes to these countries.

DeviousJ · 02-12-2004, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mayfuck

Bush's criteria for terror also allows space for diplomacy. There is still a lot of diplomacy left to be done with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Ditto for North Korea. Unlike Iraq, those regimes have offered some sort of cooperation to an extent, whereas Iraq hardly offered any.

I agree with you, but diplomacy in what sense? It's unlikely they can be convinced to give up their dictatorships in the name of global democracy, so it becomes less about the interests of their people and more about 'what they can do for us'.

02-12-2004, 12:13 PM	#1
Fall Down Blue Banned Location: i think rumsfeld should be king because hes a real patriot. just the other day i saw him testifying on the 9/11 commission and some guy asked him about y he didnt stop the plane attacks and he was like "i dnot know, f you fags" lol. Posts: 4,821	Let's Invade Pakistan Seriously, these guys have done worse crimes than Iraq. General Musharref has no incentive to help find bin Laden, because once he's found basically the US won't need his help anymore. They've waffled on whether or not this next story was true, first by denying it, then admitting it and then pardoning the man "responsible" for it. There is no doubt in my mind that this guy is a fall guy and scapegoat and the government knew about this all along. At the end I will provide links to other articles about it, but I'm posting this one even though it's a week old because I haven't seen a thread about it yet. If any nation deserves to pay the price for indiscretion involving WMD, it's Pakistan... however, the US so far has decided to "support" them. How can we "support" a nation that publicly "pardons" the man who sold nukes to to North Korea, Iran and Libya?! http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiap...lear/index.html Pakistan nuclear hero 'confesses' Monday, February 2, 2004 Posted: 6:46 AM EST (1146 GMT) ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (CNN) -- The man who founded Pakistan's nuclear program has confessed to transferring nuclear technology to North Korea, Iran and Libya, a government official told CNN Monday. By the end of the week, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf is expected to address the nation and disclose the information *******d in Abdul Qadeer Khan's written confession. The government maintains it has not sanctioned the transfer of any nuclear secrets. Khan, regarded as a national hero, is being kept under tight security at his home in Islamabad, the official said. He is not allowed to leave or use the telephone. Ahead of the admission, Pakistan had removed him from a government advisory post in the midst of an investigation into allegations that Pakistani officials shared nuclear technology with other nations, including Iran and Libya. A government statement said Khan, who held a ministerial-level position, was removed from the post "to facilitate those investigations in a free and objective manner." Up to this point, Khan had not been labeled a suspect. But Pakistani officials admitted the investigation has centered on him. In December, Pakistan said some Pakistanis may have sold secrets, after U.N. inspections of Iranian nuclear facilities showed that "Pakistani-linked individuals" had acted as "intermediaries and black marketeers." Pakistani scientists were later implicated in a scheme to sell high-tech centrifuge technology to Libya. They also have been named in probes into North Korea's nuclear program. Pakistan has detained three former army officers and three people in the country's nuclear program as part of an investigation into the possible spread of the country's nuclear weapons technology, Pakistani intelligence sources said last month. Top Pakistani officials, including Musharraf, attended a special session of the National Command Authority (NCA) Saturday to review the progress of the investigation. They issued a statement reiterating "Pakistan's strong resolve and commitment in adherence to international agreements of non-proliferation." "It would never be in the national interest to share this technology in whatever form with any other country," the statement said. The statement also said the government "condemns and distances itself in categorical terms from individual acts of indiscretion in the past," adding it was certain no such acts had taken place since the NCA was established in February 2000. -------------------------------------------- Here's the denial: http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiap...lear/index.html In related news, shocker! Nukes found in Iran: http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast...r.ap/index.html So, should we go to war or not? Should we at least publicly condemn Pakistan? Sanctions? UN intervention? Why doesn't the UN seem to give a shit about this?

02-12-2004, 12:17 PM	#2
Mayfuck Banned Location: i'm from japan also hollywood Posts: 57,812	Too bad there's no oil in Pakistan. How can we expect to liberate a country when they don't have any oil to offer us

02-12-2004, 12:19 PM	#3
MstrGhost Apocalyptic Poster Location: Portugal Posts: 2,805	"Europeans Unite, let's invade USA. They are rulled by a crazy demented dictator that loves to invade countries for economical reasons. I promise a cheerleader for every European."

02-12-2004, 02:44 PM	#10
sppunk Netphoria's George Will Location: Fenway Park Posts: 37,125	Haha.

02-12-2004, 02:55 PM	#11
slunky_munky Demi-God Posts: 252	It fits all the criteria for Bush's war on terror. It should probably be #2 on the axis of evil behind Saudi Arabia. It will be left well alone.

02-12-2004, 04:39 PM	#14
Fall Down Blue Banned Location: i think rumsfeld should be king because hes a real patriot. just the other day i saw him testifying on the 9/11 commission and some guy asked him about y he didnt stop the plane attacks and he was like "i dnot know, f you fags" lol. Posts: 4,821	down with pakistan, right nimrod?