We got YELLED AT at school today.

[meow]

Originally posted by I_was_aborted
No

Then come talk to me when you've forked out over 12 grand to get an education.

[bornentertainer]

Originally posted by Eulogy


I wasn't really talking about your specific situation.

I just don't necessarily agree with the whole 'I paid for it so I can do anything I want' attitude that a lot of people here seem to have.

What do you think is meant by this?

Barring anything disrespectful, rude, etc. etc., I CAN do what I want. I can decide to go to class or not. I can decide to do the work or not. You see where I'm going with this?

I don't know about the rest of you, but at my school, no one forces you to do anything. If you want to leave, fine. It's entirely your fault if you fail. That's all I'm saying.

[I_was_aborted]

That'll never happen. I have no need to shell out 12 grand to a University, sorry. I'm simply trying to tell you that people yell all of the time. There is no reason to get all high and mighty about it. If it really concerns you this much go see your teacher after class and talk to her about it.

[meow]

Originally posted by bornentertainer

It's entirely your fault if you fail.

[Jacob]

Originally posted by I_was_aborted
That'll never happen. I have no need to shell out 12 grand to a University, sorry. I'm simply trying to tell you that people yell all of the time. There is no reason to get all high and mighty about it. If it really concerns you this much go see your teacher after class and talk to her about it.

God, she was only complaining, then you going "you have no reason for complaining" is why its such a big deal.

[meow]

Originally posted by I_was_aborted
I'm simply trying to tell you that people yell all of the time.

If one is a so called 'professional' they should keep their emotions in check. This person does not know how to do this.

Originally posted by I_was_aborted
There is no reason to get all high and mighty about it.

Its not getting high and mighty. I made a post on netphoria. Some people support me, others do not. You have no basis to judge by saying that people yell all the time. There is a time and a place for everything. She should not have done it in front of the class and whoever was out in the hall. If she had a problem with me, she could talk to me. I would have explained myself fully on WHY i walked out.

Originally posted by I_was_aborted
If it really concerns you this much go see your teacher after class and talk to her about it.

Originally posted by meow

Grading is OBJECTIVE. If the prof likes the person, they will give them better marks. When we hand in a paper, we do NOT put our student number on it. It is required to put our name on the front page.

[I_was_aborted]

Haha so you won't go talk to her because you are scared she will grade you harder? Fear never keeps me from confronting a problem. I'm just saying that even though you pay for school the teachers are there to teach you how they know best. If the teacher thinks the best way for her to perform her job is to keep you in class then maybe you shouldn't have taken her course.

Edit: Please understand that I do know why you are upset about it. I guess I just don't think someone yelling at you matters....pretty much at all in the scheme of things. You even went as far as to say it embarassed you. You must embarass easily.

[meow]

Originally posted by I_was_aborted
Haha so you won't go talk to her because you are scared she will grade you harder?

I don't think you realize how political university is. Its not a matter of being "scared", its a matter of wanting to be graded fairly and equally on the same scale as my peers.

Originally posted by I_was_aborted
maybe you shouldn't have taken her course.

Originally posted by meow


(I was going to take it with someone else, but they backed out at the last minute so she is teaching BOTH sections)

[Jacob]

Originally posted by I_was_aborted
Fear never keeps me from confronting a problem.

wow, you are one badass.

[I_was_aborted]

Heh please don't think that because I haven't went to a University that I don't understand how they work. I'm saying that if this is an issue big enough to go to the Dean over...it wouldn't hurt to just try and talk to her. I didn't say slap her and spit in her face, I said talk.

[meow]

Chris and I are in the same class with this wretched woman. We just finished an assignment for it.

notworthtelling: hi
zerobc23: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=unprofessional
zerobc23: done your study?
notworthtelling: yeah i put a picture of garfield on it
zerobc23: hah
zerobc23: i should put goatse on it
notworthtelling: HAHAHA

[meow]

Originally posted by I_was_aborted
Heh please don't think that because I haven't went to a University that I don't understand how they work. I'm saying that if this is an issue big enough to go to the Dean over...it wouldn't hurt to just try and talk to her. I didn't say slap her and spit in her face, I said talk.

First you call me a crybaby and then you tell me i should talk to her about it? then you tell me I am afraid if I don't?


I don't get you, man.

[Onawhim]

First of all professors are human too and maybe she was having a bad day and shouldn't have yelled. However, yea you are allowed to leave class and yes she is allowed to yell at you. I do go to a universtiy since that seems to matter to you. Bringing this up to a dean will just result in them laughing at you as soon as you leave their office so just let it go..

[Lie]

Letting her know that you were leaving would have been the respectful thing to do. You may disagree with this, but in the sort of "professional" relationship you seem to be maintaining you should have with your professor, that would have been the "correct" thing to do. Not yelling at you would have also been the respectful thing to do. Neither of you did the respectful, professional thing, so neither of you can fault the other without being hypocritical. This is simply how professional relationships, in both an educational and business setting, work. I'm not speaking in terms of morals but in terms of what to expect. What you experience in school in terms of unfairness is probably nothing compared to what you will experience in later life, and if you're lucky you'll learn that there is a certain code of behavior you can choose to follow that has nothing to do with morals or fairness, but is, essentially, the "right" and "wrong" of the adult professional world. If you're going to talk about being grown up and professional and having rights and use these things in argument, you first have to know what these things mean and how they work.

[Mariner]

Originally posted by Lie
Letting her know that you were leaving would have been the respectful thing to do. You may disagree with this, but in the sort of "professional" relationship you seem to be maintaining you should have with your professor, that would have been the "correct" thing to do. Not yelling at you would have also been the respectful thing to do. Neither of you did the respectful, professional thing, so neither of you can fault the other without being hypocritical. This is simply how professional relationships, in both an educational and business setting, work. I'm not speaking in terms of morals but in terms of what to expect. What you experience in school in terms of unfairness is probably nothing compared to what you will experience in later life, and if you're lucky you'll learn that there is a certain code of behavior you can choose to follow that has nothing to do with morals or fairness, but is, essentially, the "right" and "wrong" of the adult professional world. If you're going to talk about being grown up and professional and having rights and use these things in argument, you first have to know what these things mean and how they work.

[meow]

Originally posted by Lie
Letting her know that you were leaving would have been the respectful thing to do. You may disagree with this, but in the sort of "professional" relationship you seem to be maintaining you should have with your professor, that would have been the "correct" thing to do. Not yelling at you would have also been the respectful thing to do. Neither of you did the respectful, professional thing, so neither of you can fault the other without being hypocritical. This is simply how professional relationships, in both an educational and business setting, work. I'm not speaking in terms of morals but in terms of what to expect. What you experience in school in terms of unfairness is probably nothing compared to what you will experience in later life, and if you're lucky you'll learn that there is a certain code of behavior you can choose to follow that has nothing to do with morals or fairness, but is, essentially, the "right" and "wrong" of the adult professional world. If you're going to talk about being grown up and professional and having rights and use these things in argument, you first have to know what these things mean and how they work.

If I would have known about the discussion, I would have let her know. I feel that it would have been inappropriate to stand up in front of the class and say that I was leaving because I had not read the material.

I feel that you aren't giving me any credit because I feel this was inappropriate and I am not "grown up." People should stop assuming I live in a dream world and that I think that no one is going to yell at me in any setting in the future. I think respect is something that should be earned, and I have little respect for her due to the way she carries her classes and picks her favourites. If she has no respect for me, then that is fine (though I have done nothing until now to provoke any lack of respect), I only feel that the manner in which she carried out her demonstration of how she feels towards me was inappropriate.

So maybe I should not have left class. Maybe I should have wasted my peers' time and sat there without contributing. I sure as hell have more respect for them than I do for her.

Regardless of whether or not I did the wrong thing, two wrongs do not make a right, and someone with their Masters should know better.

[june33]

lie would be my lover if i were a lesbian.

[bornentertainer]

Originally posted by Lie
Letting her know that you were leaving would have been the respectful thing to do. You may disagree with this, but in the sort of "professional" relationship you seem to be maintaining you should have with your professor, that would have been the "correct" thing to do. Not yelling at you would have also been the respectful thing to do. Neither of you did the respectful, professional thing, so neither of you can fault the other without being hypocritical. This is simply how professional relationships, in both an educational and business setting, work. I'm not speaking in terms of morals but in terms of what to expect. What you experience in school in terms of unfairness is probably nothing compared to what you will experience in later life, and if you're lucky you'll learn that there is a certain code of behavior you can choose to follow that has nothing to do with morals or fairness, but is, essentially, the "right" and "wrong" of the adult professional world. If you're going to talk about being grown up and professional and having rights and use these things in argument, you first have to know what these things mean and how they work.

I agree with this to an extent. However, a lot of my classes have at least 150 people in lecture. I think that if I told them I would be leaving, they would look at me funny and tell me they don't really care.

But in a discussion section or a small class, I do agree with this.

[june33]

you tell the prof BEFORE class that you will be leaving.

[bornentertainer]

Originally posted by june33
you tell the prof BEFORE class that you will be leaving.

I know, I got that the first time. Still, if one person leaves out of a class of 200-1000 people, they won't care.