the pace of news is dizzying...

spa ced · 01-22-2004, 04:35 AM

Not that I was alive in any previous century to compare it with the past personally of course...but yeah...it's all so fast paced.
MSNBC, CNN, C-SPAN, Daily Show, The War In Iraq, 2004 election etc etc.
Who to believe though? That's probably what this thread should be about instead.

Mayfuck · 01-22-2004, 04:36 AM

NPR and BBC

2Marlon2Brando · 01-22-2004, 04:36 AM

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Originally posted by spa ced
That's probably what this thread should be about instead.

i thought this thread was about making yourself look stupid.

spa ced · 01-22-2004, 04:38 AM

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Originally posted by Mayfuck
NPR and BBC

I've only recently begun to watch the BBC and it puts American news networks to shame. They focus and discuss issues more important to America than what the actual American news networks do!

DeadSwan · 01-22-2004, 04:40 AM

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Originally posted by Mayfuck
NPR and BBC

add to that the news hour with jim lehrer + now with bill moyers

spa ced · 01-22-2004, 04:41 AM

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Originally posted by DeadSwan

add to that the news hour with jim lehrer + now with bill moyers

I love the News Hour With Jim Lehrer also.

spa ced · 01-22-2004, 04:43 AM

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Originally posted by 2Marlon2Brando

i thought this thread was about making yourself look stupid.

Um. Fuck you?

pastor · 01-22-2004, 04:43 AM

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Originally posted by Mayfuck
BBC

I like the BBC, but the other day they had a headline for a story about the Starbucks franchise in France that read something like: "French oppose coffee franchise invasion." I thought the wording was just a tad loaded. Invasion is a word best applied to, oh, I don't know, war.

I trust the BBC more than many American news sources, but I thought I'd offer a small example of the kind of tiny, incremental warps in diction and information-presentation that pervade almost all news sources, and that accumulate to create such divergent views of the world in audiences who are inundated by spin whether they like it or not.

DeadSwan · 01-22-2004, 04:43 AM

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Originally posted by spa ced

I love the News Hour With Jim Lehrer also.

do you happen to watch the nightly business report, as well?

i'm getting really old. fuck it. pbs is great.

spa ced · 01-22-2004, 04:46 AM

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Originally posted by DeadSwan

do you happen to watch the nightly business report, as well?

i'm getting really old. fuck it. pbs is great.

Nope I don't watch the Nightly Business Report.

Yes PBS is definitely wonderful. I would have never been able to see that Al-Jazeera video of the dead American soldiers had it not been for PBS.

phaedrus · 01-22-2004, 04:46 AM

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Originally posted by pastor

I like the BBC, but the other day they had a headline for a story about the Starbucks franchise in France that read something like: "French oppose coffee franchise invasion." I thought the wording was just a tad loaded. Invasion is a word best applied to, oh, I don't know, war.

I don't know about that. If you read about the Starbucks franchise and how it expands you'd start to believe that it is an invasion.

Mayfuck · 01-22-2004, 04:51 AM

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Originally posted by 2Marlon2Brando

i thought this thread was about making yourself look stupid.

Looks like you forgot to log in as nofxfugaz420

2Marlon2Brando · 01-22-2004, 04:54 AM

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Originally posted by Mayfuck

Looks like you forgot to log in as nofxfugaz420

yeah, i tried that and it wouldn't let me in.

because it is nofx420fugazi

Mayfuck · 01-22-2004, 04:55 AM

Sorry I don't really pay attention to trolls.

2Marlon2Brando · 01-22-2004, 04:56 AM

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Originally posted by Mayfuck
Sorry I don't really pay attention to trolls.

you're forgiven.

sppunk · 01-22-2004, 04:58 AM

Anyone but Fox News.

Nimrod · 01-22-2004, 04:52 PM

I do like that you all chose the most liberally slanted television news nationally available.

Ghetto_Squirrel · 01-22-2004, 05:06 PM

C-Span is alright sometimes, if only because they show things unedited and thus don't concern themselves with trying to take 15-second video clips to summarise entire speeches.

As a whole though, American news, and especially television news, is atrocious.

Ghetto_Squirrel · 01-22-2004, 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by Nimrod
I do like that you all chose the most liberally slanted television news nationally available.

MSNBC?

DeviousJ · 01-22-2004, 05:09 PM

The BBC isn't *that* good - I mean they're ok, but they still sensationalize things and talk about absolutely pointless events

Nimrod · 01-22-2004, 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by Ghetto_Squirrel

MSNBC?

That wasn't suggested as who to believe, that was part of the initial complaint.

sppunk · 01-22-2004, 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by Nimrod
I do like that you all chose the most liberally slanted television news nationally available.

NewsHour, which is the best TV news program, is far from liberal. But, I've made this thread before.

Again, TV news isn't a viable option to get a full story. It's too short and based solely on video, not storytelling.

spa ced · 01-22-2004, 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by Nimrod
That wasn't suggested as who to believe, that was part of the initial complaint.

There was no initial complaint.
This isn't about liberal or conservative media. Stop making it about that.

Nimrod · 01-22-2004, 05:44 PM

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Originally posted by spa ced

There was no initial complaint.
This isn't about liberal or conservative media. Stop making it about that.

I didn't, I just pointed it out.

Oh and since McNeil left, Lehrer has gone very left.

sppunk · 01-22-2004, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by Nimrod
I didn't, I just pointed it out.

Oh and since McNeil left, Lehrer has gone very left.

Eh, I wouldn't say that. But, oh well.

Nimrod · 01-22-2004, 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by sppunk

Eh, I wouldn't say that. But, oh well.

It's like "Crossfire with James Carville" would be.

sppunk · 01-22-2004, 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by Nimrod
It's like "Crossfire with James Carville" would be.

Crossfire was/is amazing. I'm still pissed they took it off an hourly format.

THRILLHO · 05:58 PM

CBC really is the shit. they have a news program about how news is covered (counterspin), shows that analyze the presentation of specific current events and how other countries are presenting them (sunday report, disclosure). they have media literacy programs. they have really good documentaries (passionate eye). i would actually say they don't come across as overtly liberal or conservative although that sounds stupid. it's the only channel i get cuz i don't get cable and they have hockey night in canada too. although for some reason BBC must not be available here. i've never seen it in my whole life.

but yeah, news in the last couple of years leaves me with a feeling of hopelessness, like nothing can ever proved, only accepted. and like everything important is ignored and i don't know what it is because it's ignored.

phaedrus · 01-22-2004, 07:11 PM

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...they have hockey night in canada too.

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BeautifulLoser · 01-22-2004, 07:34 PM

I think the Daily Show is an excellent source of news.

01-22-2004, 04:35 AM	#1
spa ced Braindead Location: Machu Picchu Posts: 15,291	the pace of news is dizzying... Not that I was alive in any previous century to compare it with the past personally of course...but yeah...it's all so fast paced. MSNBC, CNN, C-SPAN, Daily Show, The War In Iraq, 2004 election etc etc. Who to believe though? That's probably what this thread should be about instead.

01-22-2004, 05:06 PM	#18
Ghetto_Squirrel Minion of Satan Location: Chicago Posts: 7,157	C-Span is alright sometimes, if only because they show things unedited and thus don't concern themselves with trying to take 15-second video clips to summarise entire speeches. As a whole though, American news, and especially television news, is atrocious. __________________

01-22-2004, 05:56 PM	#28
THRILLHO Apocalyptic Poster Location: vancouver Posts: 2,092	CBC really is the shit. they have a news program about how news is covered (counterspin), shows that analyze the presentation of specific current events and how other countries are presenting them (sunday report, disclosure). they have media literacy programs. they have really good documentaries (passionate eye). i would actually say they don't come across as overtly liberal or conservative although that sounds stupid. it's the only channel i get cuz i don't get cable and they have hockey night in canada too. although for some reason BBC must not be available here. i've never seen it in my whole life. but yeah, news in the last couple of years leaves me with a feeling of hopelessness, like nothing can ever proved, only accepted. and like everything important is ignored and i don't know what it is because it's ignored. Last edited by THRILLHO : 01-22-2004 at 05:58 PM.

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01-22-2004, 04:36 AM	#2
Mayfuck Banned Location: i'm from japan also hollywood Posts: 57,812	NPR and BBC

01-22-2004, 04:55 AM	#14
Mayfuck Banned Location: i'm from japan also hollywood Posts: 57,812	Sorry I don't really pay attention to trolls.

01-22-2004, 04:58 AM	#16
sppunk Netphoria's George Will Location: Fenway Park Posts: 37,125	Anyone but Fox News.

01-22-2004, 04:52 PM	#17
Nimrod Macho Business Donkey Wrestler Location: the cross i'm bearing home 'aint indicative of my place Posts: 5,410	I do like that you all chose the most liberally slanted television news nationally available.

01-22-2004, 05:09 PM	#20
DeviousJ CORNFROST Location: GUREITO DESU YO Posts: 24,891	The BBC isn't that good - I mean they're ok, but they still sensationalize things and talk about absolutely pointless events

01-22-2004, 07:34 PM	#30
BeautifulLoser Socialphobic Location: Middle of somewhere Posts: 13,755	I think the Daily Show is an excellent source of news.