ITT We discuss how the WWE can improve

Transformer · 01-10-2004, 02:12 AM

-Get rid of Mark Henry, he sucks in every way
-More trades between Raw and Smackdown
-Being THE Undertaker back (apparently they are)
-Resolve the WWF thing with those wildlife fuckers
-Set it up so PPV's are once again special....why would we get excited about HHH-HBK at the Rumble when we saw it on Raw?

Oh well, i was a bigger fan years ago - now i'm just a regular fan who criticises everything they do and hardly marks out........

Discuss

The Gaddrow · 01-10-2004, 08:01 AM

I have completely stopped caring.

funnygeezus · 01-10-2004, 09:22 AM

-have one of the world titles change hands on weekly tv. it's been soooooooooooo long since that happened. if they want to rebuild an audience they have to get ratings for their tv shows up and ppv buys should follow.
-shake-up the world title scene on raw, and keep it shook-up for a significant period of time. triple h has been booked as "that damn good" for so long that no one ever feels like a threat to him. the only person he hasn't made look like an unworthly amateur over the past two years is shawn michaels. get the title off him for at least 6 months and 2 major feuds over the belt. it's at the point where the audience knows it's always his belt and sometimes he lends it out for 30-days so he can make small in-roads on his plethora of serious injuries. as much as he'd love to be a classic champ, this isn't the 70's and year-long title reigns just don't fly anymore.
-book cruiserweights the same as everyone else. have a cruiserweight win a major title and don't make it out to be a crazy fluke or a lucky streak. everyone and their mother thinks the smaller guys are more entertaining. at least give us a decent and competitive cruiserweight division.
-fire everyone over 350 pounds. if that's too much to ask, at least axe the big show, rikishi and mark henry.
-scrap the announce teams and hire 8 new guys, or maybe 9 if they want to keep 3-man on raw, which is actually a good idea aside from the 3 men they picked for the job. jim ross's particular brand of laughable bullshit has lost its charm. the king is inexplicibly on the one brand of the two with a serious women's division, his sexist schtick takes away from every good women's match on raw (of which there are a lot). michael cole is an all-around horrible announcer and, i'm assuming, an equally horrible person, there is no reason to keep him around. the worst thing about hearing al snow and tazz announce is knowing they still have gas in their tanks and should still be in the ring (and they suck at announcing, moreso snow than tazz). the coach is just like michael cole, only kinda black. the velocity twins should be sealed in oil-barrels and burried under the wtc memorial so will will never forget all the people who have died from bloodloss because they started bleeding from the ears after listening to those two.
-leave stacy kiebler alone! stop trying to make her get implants, it would ruin her. in fact, stop making ALL the girls get progressively larger implants.
-fire everyone who can't touch their toes. aside from a few gelatenous blobs, whom i mentioned earlier, i'm looking squarely at scott steiner.
-put world title on the following people over the course of this year: john cena, chris benoit, chirs jericho and booker t.
-give ultimo dragon a tv match every once in a while. why spend money on a fucking living legend then never use him?
-it's ok to bring back THE undertaker, it's even ok to feud him against kane, but for the love of god don't give him back his hhh-esque deathgrip on whatever show he comes back to.
-make having a member of their roster win the royal rumble a priority for the general managers. the winner essentially gives his show the main-event of wrestlemaina, they should fucking say that at least once.
-keep stephanie off tv. for good. keep paul heyman on as smackdown gm and let him do some booking. just don't put him in charge of the payroll.

strange_one · 01-10-2004, 10:02 AM

- don't let anyone with the last name McMahon wrestle ever again
- give John Cena a shot at the title
- stop fucking midcarders like RVD and Booker T around otherwise they'll be gone in a few months

wild light · 01-10-2004, 10:59 AM

it can improve by disappearing.

BeautifulLoser · 01-10-2004, 01:08 PM

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Originally posted by The Gaddrow
I have completely stopped caring.

Same here.

BeautifulLoser · 01-10-2004, 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by funnygeezus
-stuff

Exactly what he just said. Especially the part about giving the title to John Cena, Chris Benoit, Chris Jericho and Booker T.

TheJoker · 01-10-2004, 02:22 PM

Bring back Bret Hart. Then I'll start watching again.

sppunk · 01-10-2004, 02:30 PM

The Bushwackers were excellent, as was Tugboat and Yokozuna!

1993 represent!

Orenthal James · 01-10-2004, 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by TheJoker
Bring back Bret Hart. Then I'll start watching again.

Yeah man, and his brother too.

Transformer · 01-11-2004, 04:39 AM

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Originally posted by sppunk
Yokozuna!

yoko won't be back - There is only enough room for one "Dead Man" gimmick - The Undertaker

strange_one · 01-11-2004, 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by Transformer

yoko won't be back -

vince will find a way

Transformer · 01-11-2004, 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by strange_one

vince will find a way

melombar · 01-11-2004, 11:22 PM

I stopped watching when they bought out WCW. It was downhill before that and the 'Shane buys WCW angle' just fell flat. Plus, I git very tired of seeing Jericho jobed out ALL the time. Plus, Stone Cold left again. That, and Wrestleline.com went down. Meh.

I forgot that wrestling even happened until I read this thread.

AndySlash · 01-11-2004, 11:24 PM

I really think the WWE will improve only when Vince relinquishes some of his creative control to others, and others specifically not in his family. I believe Vince (and the McMahons in general) is out of touch with what the fans want. Vince has always been about the big, physical specimen. That has never, nor will it change. It's why we're subject to tools like Mark Henry, Big Show, John Heidenreichenreichen, and others. Meanwhile, we have folks like Chris Benoit (who better get the fucking title before he retires), Chris Jericho, Mysterio, Guererro, Matt Hardy, and the Hurricane who languish in mid-card status because Vince can't seem to fathom the idea that David can beat Goliath.

I'm seeing Smackdown in Minneapolis in a week and a half. I haven't watched the show in a few months. For the most part I have no idea what is going on, but I see that Hardcore Holly is suddenly a contender. WTF? Does anyone care about Holly? I'll find out, I guess.

strange_one · 01-11-2004, 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by AndySlash
like Chris Benoit (who better get the fucking title before he retires),

rumour has it that Benoit will get a title shot at WMXX against Lesnar after he wins the Royal Rumble.....we'll just have to wait and see

AndySlash · 01-11-2004, 11:34 PM

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Originally posted by strange_one
rumour has it that Benoit will get a title shot at WMXX against Lesnar after he wins the Royal Rumble.....we'll just have to wait and see

Isn't Benoit the first entrant? It's been a couple years since the last 'first entrant is the winner' angle, so it must be overdue.

Debaser · 01-12-2004, 12:13 AM

I stopped caring years ago when the ppv's stopped having bonus nudity. It use to be so cool, every ppv you had at least one hawt chick getting naked "accidently".

Transformer · 01-12-2004, 12:17 AM

Like i said before PPV's are so less special now...'cause nothing is really shocking anymore and it seems that every week before a PPV, we will see the two main eventers go at it in a tag team match on Raw/Smackdown.....whats the deal?

phaedrus · 01-12-2004, 12:55 AM

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Originally posted by funnygeezus
STUFF.

what he said.

BeautifulLoser · 01-12-2004, 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by AndySlash
the Hurricane

Yes.

ravenguy2000 · 01-12-2004, 10:19 AM

I stopped caring circa 1989.

http://www.p3.co.uk/vendetta/jakepics/j4.jpg

Nimrod · 01-12-2004, 10:41 AM

Stop charging $40/month for the PPV. When your target audience is kids (and let's face it, that's their main market, kids and young teens) and parents have to foot the bill, $40 seems a bit much per month in today's economy.

strange_one · 01-12-2004, 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by AndySlash

Isn't Benoit the first entrant?

he is indeed.

I still really wanted to see Lesnar Vs Goldberg at WM, oh well

funnygeezus · 01-12-2004, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by strange_one

Lesnar Vs Goldberg at WM

i think goldberg has come a long way in fleshing out his in ring style since coming to wwe (the mma-style gives him a lot more to do in the ring for longer matches without comprimising his signature offense), but he'd need to develop it a lot more before i'd go for him over benoit in any match. especially with lesnar, who i still think is developing (not that he isn't very good already). even though lesnar and goldberg could probably have a pretty good match that could be built into a spectacle, you still have the barrier of the shows being split, which is a big thing to overecome if they want to do this thing in 2 months. i guess the obvious thing would be to trade goldberg for the undertaker, which sets up two big-name matches for WM.

there is one very obvious dreamatch left to do with bg, and wwe alluded to it on the most recent episode of confidential. they interviewed austin and asked if he could only do one more stunner, who would be on the recieving end. he said goldberg, of course. i don't think they're going that way, at least not for this year's WM

AndySlash · 01-12-2004, 02:13 PM

What's the deal with BG anyway? I heard he had a fit or something?

Transformer · 01-12-2004, 11:39 PM

Goldberg fucking sucks

I never liked that bum

by the way - Rajah's WWE News and Rumors is a good place to check out if you want news and rumors as to what is coming up and whats happening backstage....i check it out and then decide if i'm going to watch WWE for the next couple of weeks

01-10-2004, 02:12 AM	#1
Transformer Apocalyptic Poster Location: Australia Posts: 1,775	ITT We discuss how the WWE can improve -Get rid of Mark Henry, he sucks in every way -More trades between Raw and Smackdown -Being THE Undertaker back (apparently they are) -Resolve the WWF thing with those wildlife fuckers -Set it up so PPV's are once again special....why would we get excited about HHH-HBK at the Rumble when we saw it on Raw? Oh well, i was a bigger fan years ago - now i'm just a regular fan who criticises everything they do and hardly marks out........ Discuss

01-10-2004, 08:01 AM	#2
The Gaddrow Minion of Satan Location: Nowhere Posts: 7,047	I have completely stopped caring.

01-10-2004, 09:22 AM	#3
funnygeezus Apocalyptic Poster Location: up in da m-peezy fo' reezy Posts: 2,669	-have one of the world titles change hands on weekly tv. it's been soooooooooooo long since that happened. if they want to rebuild an audience they have to get ratings for their tv shows up and ppv buys should follow. -shake-up the world title scene on raw, and keep it shook-up for a significant period of time. triple h has been booked as "that damn good" for so long that no one ever feels like a threat to him. the only person he hasn't made look like an unworthly amateur over the past two years is shawn michaels. get the title off him for at least 6 months and 2 major feuds over the belt. it's at the point where the audience knows it's always his belt and sometimes he lends it out for 30-days so he can make small in-roads on his plethora of serious injuries. as much as he'd love to be a classic champ, this isn't the 70's and year-long title reigns just don't fly anymore. -book cruiserweights the same as everyone else. have a cruiserweight win a major title and don't make it out to be a crazy fluke or a lucky streak. everyone and their mother thinks the smaller guys are more entertaining. at least give us a decent and competitive cruiserweight division. -fire everyone over 350 pounds. if that's too much to ask, at least axe the big show, rikishi and mark henry. -scrap the announce teams and hire 8 new guys, or maybe 9 if they want to keep 3-man on raw, which is actually a good idea aside from the 3 men they picked for the job. jim ross's particular brand of laughable bullshit has lost its charm. the king is inexplicibly on the one brand of the two with a serious women's division, his sexist schtick takes away from every good women's match on raw (of which there are a lot). michael cole is an all-around horrible announcer and, i'm assuming, an equally horrible person, there is no reason to keep him around. the worst thing about hearing al snow and tazz announce is knowing they still have gas in their tanks and should still be in the ring (and they suck at announcing, moreso snow than tazz). the coach is just like michael cole, only kinda black. the velocity twins should be sealed in oil-barrels and burried under the wtc memorial so will will never forget all the people who have died from bloodloss because they started bleeding from the ears after listening to those two. -leave stacy kiebler alone! stop trying to make her get implants, it would ruin her. in fact, stop making ALL the girls get progressively larger implants. -fire everyone who can't touch their toes. aside from a few gelatenous blobs, whom i mentioned earlier, i'm looking squarely at scott steiner. -put world title on the following people over the course of this year: john cena, chris benoit, chirs jericho and booker t. -give ultimo dragon a tv match every once in a while. why spend money on a fucking living legend then never use him? -it's ok to bring back THE undertaker, it's even ok to feud him against kane, but for the love of god don't give him back his hhh-esque deathgrip on whatever show he comes back to. -make having a member of their roster win the royal rumble a priority for the general managers. the winner essentially gives his show the main-event of wrestlemaina, they should fucking say that at least once. -keep stephanie off tv. for good. keep paul heyman on as smackdown gm and let him do some booking. just don't put him in charge of the payroll.

01-10-2004, 10:02 AM	#4
strange_one No Chance Location: Here Posts: 13,788	- don't let anyone with the last name McMahon wrestle ever again - give John Cena a shot at the title - stop fucking midcarders like RVD and Booker T around otherwise they'll be gone in a few months

01-10-2004, 10:59 AM	#5
wild light Pledge Location: lost. help me find a home Posts: 241	it can improve by disappearing.

01-10-2004, 02:22 PM	#8
TheJoker Apocalyptic Poster Location: Seattle Posts: 3,292	Bring back Bret Hart. Then I'll start watching again.

01-10-2004, 02:30 PM	#9
sppunk Netphoria's George Will Location: Fenway Park Posts: 37,125	The Bushwackers were excellent, as was Tugboat and Yokozuna! 1993 represent!

01-11-2004, 11:22 PM	#14
melombar $Eleventy Billion Location: 21 Spooner St. Posts: 618	I stopped watching when they bought out WCW. It was downhill before that and the 'Shane buys WCW angle' just fell flat. Plus, I git very tired of seeing Jericho jobed out ALL the time. Plus, Stone Cold left again. That, and Wrestleline.com went down. Meh. I forgot that wrestling even happened until I read this thread.

01-11-2004, 11:24 PM	#15
AndySlash Posts: 20,262	I really think the WWE will improve only when Vince relinquishes some of his creative control to others, and others specifically not in his family. I believe Vince (and the McMahons in general) is out of touch with what the fans want. Vince has always been about the big, physical specimen. That has never, nor will it change. It's why we're subject to tools like Mark Henry, Big Show, John Heidenreichenreichen, and others. Meanwhile, we have folks like Chris Benoit (who better get the fucking title before he retires), Chris Jericho, Mysterio, Guererro, Matt Hardy, and the Hurricane who languish in mid-card status because Vince can't seem to fathom the idea that David can beat Goliath. I'm seeing Smackdown in Minneapolis in a week and a half. I haven't watched the show in a few months. For the most part I have no idea what is going on, but I see that Hardcore Holly is suddenly a contender. WTF? Does anyone care about Holly? I'll find out, I guess.

01-12-2004, 12:13 AM	#18
Debaser ghost Location: @SactoMacto Posts: 12,201	I stopped caring years ago when the ppv's stopped having bonus nudity. It use to be so cool, every ppv you had at least one hawt chick getting naked "accidently".

01-12-2004, 12:17 AM	#19
Transformer Apocalyptic Poster Location: Australia Posts: 1,775	Like i said before PPV's are so less special now...'cause nothing is really shocking anymore and it seems that every week before a PPV, we will see the two main eventers go at it in a tag team match on Raw/Smackdown.....whats the deal?

01-12-2004, 10:19 AM	#22
ravenguy2000 NO FATS Location: NO FEMS Posts: 29,008	I stopped caring circa 1989. http://www.p3.co.uk/vendetta/jakepics/j4.jpg

01-12-2004, 10:41 AM	#23
Nimrod Macho Business Donkey Wrestler Location: the cross i'm bearing home 'aint indicative of my place Posts: 5,410	Stop charging $40/month for the PPV. When your target audience is kids (and let's face it, that's their main market, kids and young teens) and parents have to foot the bill, $40 seems a bit much per month in today's economy.

01-12-2004, 02:13 PM	#26
AndySlash Posts: 20,262	What's the deal with BG anyway? I heard he had a fit or something?

01-12-2004, 11:39 PM	#27
Transformer Apocalyptic Poster Location: Australia Posts: 1,775	Goldberg fucking sucks I never liked that bum by the way - Rajah's WWE News and Rumors is a good place to check out if you want news and rumors as to what is coming up and whats happening backstage....i check it out and then decide if i'm going to watch WWE for the next couple of weeks