so i saw LOTRROTK yesterday(review+spoliers)

[SG Boi]

good good

[BeautifulLoser]

FRODO: I can't bear it. Life is horrid. My heart is shriveled and my soul is dead. The blackness of despair shrouds my eyes. I choke on pain and anguish.
SAM: That's it - no more listening to The Cure for you.

[Ugly]

Originally posted by SG Boi

big difference between cartoon and silly grown men dressing like wizard and gnome

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

Originally posted by noyen
hauls FRODO out of the special Place To Throw Stuff Into Lava room.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAx2

Well, geniune laughter and mocking laughter aside...

Just to repost some stuff I said in another thread: Christopher Lee's presence was VERY MUCH missed in this film. They should have cut down the 30 something god minutes of people smilling, hugging and crying at the end and put Lee's scene at the beginning. Stupid Sentimental Peter Jackson.

I read the books when I was 13 so I don't remember much, but all I did remember was A) Gandalf dying and B) Gollum biting the ring off Frodo's finger and falling into the lava. So I was geuniely surprised at the flick and changes didn't bother me. But I DID remember that the Hobbits went back to the Shire and did battle again with something (I didn't remember it was Sauraman). While that is a way to show the Hobbits have changed and become more badass, in the film, I can see why it was cut. It would have been too much. The ring is done, the quest is over, why drag it on with more bashing heads?

Though now that I typed that, hell, I would have MUCH rather seen more fighting instead of lots of hugging and crying.

That's basically my main problem with the flick: I got a little sick of how about how in the last hour there was a scene every five minutes of people whispering intesely to each other in the heat of battle, that got on my nerves. That and the tag at the end with Sam and his family was pointless (yeah, I know the books are at thier core the story of the Hobbits, but that was just dragging it on needlessly) They shoulda ended it with the ship sailing out to see, fade to white, roll credits. Wouldn't have been a dry eye in the house.

Anyway, coolest moments in the flick are a toss up between that blonde chick cutting the fucking head off the giant lizard, Aragon entering the caves of the dead and when Legolas went on that kill-crazy rampage with the great kicker at the end ("THAT STILL COUNTS AS ONE!")

As for the laughing with/ at Gollum. I laughed a few times, but face it, he is a very bizzare character. But it isn't really "HA-HA" laughter, its more of a joyous laughter in excuberance of what Jackson and Andy Serkis and Wingnut films FXs guys are pulling off on screen. Its so great and feels so lively and energeic, I can't help but smile, even with Gollum is doing very evil things. (when Smegol blinked at the beginning and Gollums eyes opened up, that was something I laughed at because of the coolness of it). Its not really photo-realistic, computer FX have never done that, but its extremely otherworldly and very engrossing. so you laugh because its working so well. That and, hell lighten up kids, "Fat Hobbit" is pretty funny only beacuse of how well Serkis and the FX guys deliver have Gollum deliver the line.

Another random question: what the hell happened to the horses everybody rode to the black gate with? Next thing I know they're fighting on foot. WTF? Oh and also, I wish they hadn't intercut the fight in Mount Doom with Aragon running away from the Orc. The real dramatic meat of the entire story is in mount doom, don't disrupt it with more troll action, I wanna see Gollum / Frodo and Sam who deserve the big dramatic beats. That fight seemed excessive to cut into the real drama of the piece.

Anyway, yeah, good ending to the trilogy, very satisfying, looks amazing like all the previous ones: but too sentimental, hokey and seriously at times to really walk away with being the "greatest thing ever" as alot of fanboys have dubbed it. *cough*AICN!StupidFatassHarry*cough* 7.5/10

[Shparticus]

Originally posted by noyen
Mighty funnehs, various and sundry.

Have my baby. Now.

[Helena Handbasket]

*Sam carries Frodo up the mountain*
*Tasha chants "Ru-dy! Ru-dy!*
*Kenzie kicks Tasha's ass for "ruining the moment"*

[meow]

Originally posted by Helena Handbasket
*Sam carries Frodo up the mountain*
*Tasha chants "Ru-dy! Ru-dy!*
*Kenzie kicks Tasha's ass for "ruining the moment"*

oh my god

[Helena Handbasket]

Originally posted by meow


oh my god

Yeah, it pretty much sums up my ROTK experience.

[meow]

Originally posted by Helena Handbasket


Yeah, it pretty much sums up my ROTK experience.

i think seeing a movie with you would be the best thing that ever happened to me.

I love funny comment movie people!

[Helena Handbasket]

Originally posted by meow


i think seeing a movie with you would be the best thing that ever happened to me.

I love funny comment movie people!

People usually just get pissed off at me. Once when we were watching Romeo and Juliet, one scene where Leonardo DiCaprio was doing something romantic, I couldn't help myself and I went "SAY 'WHEEERRREE'S ARNIE', SAY IT LIKE THAT, SAY WHEEERRRRRRREEEE'S ARNIE!' " Then Nancy punched me really hard.

[meow]

Originally posted by Helena Handbasket


People usually just get pissed off at me. Once when we were watching Romeo and Juliet, one scene where Leonardo DiCaprio was doing something romantic, I couldn't help myself and I went "SAY 'WHEEERRREE'S ARNIE', SAY IT LIKE THAT, SAY WHEEERRRRRRREEEE'S ARNIE!' " Then Nancy punched me really hard.

well, i would appreciate your odd sense of humor!!!!

[Helena Handbasket]

http://members.aol.com/GrvyChck/look3.jpg

[Lil Apache]

Originally posted by Helena Handbasket
*Sam carries Frodo up the mountain*
*Tasha chants "Ru-dy! Ru-dy!*
*Kenzie kicks Tasha's ass for "ruining the moment"*

No shit I was chanting the exact same thing in my head during that scene.

[Isle]

Originally posted by Helena Handbasket
http://members.aol.com/GrvyChck/look3.jpg

that movie was what's eating gilbert grape wasn't it?

[Eulogy]

ohhhh my god.

Fantastic. Sure the end was a little....crappy....but I mean, it had to drag a little. It didn't have to be as mushy and cheesy as it was, but I think you have to make sure there's some closure at the end of the trilogy...right?

I fucking loved it. Legolas and Aragorn and Gimli or however the fuck you spell it.......<3<3<3. Fuck the hobbits, I wanted more of those guys. Best battle scenes ever. Oh man.

Yeah I don't know what else to say. It kicked ass.

By far the best of the three. Without a doubt.

[melombar]

Originally posted by Ketchup
alright... my beefs with the movie are as follows...

3. No Mouth of Sauron. He was supposed to present the clothes of the Hobbits to the good army. Then the audience is like "Oh shit." could've been used as a suspence thing.


5. BIGGEST problem with the movie: Saruman does not take over the shire. fuckity fuck fuck. This is the final kicker in the series. Then it's time for the hobbits to kick some ass. Saruman is a much more important character in the series. He only made it in one movie. WTF? hopefully some alternate ending will be released with the DVD?

Supposedly, the scene with the mouth of Sauron was filmed. The scouring of the Shire was not. I work with a dude who's a huge movie and LOTR geek and that's what he told me. So, look for the mouth of Sauron scene on the extended, but not the scouring. Peter Jackson did state that he CUT all of the Saruman scenes from the movie, so some were filmed. I'm guessing we'll see Saruman's final stand and defeat at Isengard in the extended as well.

[Myxomatosis]

Originally posted by Enzed
And they have a homepage.

Corsairs of Umbar :erm

Why am I not surprised?

I did spot Peter Jackson (as the head Corsair) on my second time seeing it -- it's one of the earlier scenes in the movie. He's not quite as easy to pick out as a Hitchcock cameo, but you can definitely tell it's him.

[strange_one]

ok, I only just saw it tonight, it was only released here on the 26th. I enjoyed the fuck out of it, but there were, of course, a few problems.

- The most obvious, I think, was where Saruman's scene was cut. Treebeard and Gandalf are talking about how the wizard is still in Orthanc, then all of a sudden Pippen sees the Palintir in the water. wtf??? I'm sure that there would have been some in the cinema that would have had no idea what was going on

- Treebeard seemed to talk faster, or was it just me?

- Legolas surfing off the oliphaunt's tusks back to the ground, god I hate that shit, like when he surfed down the stairs at Helm's Deep on an orc shield

- Shelob's Lair, although I loved it and it was tense and all the rest, it just didn't do the story justice. not once did Frodo say anything about the smell, which is emphasised greatly in the book. there is also the fact that Jackson fucked with this alot, so that Sam wasn't even there in the Lair. Frodo getting stung in the neck though was fantastic, with the OD-mouth-froth and everything.

- Pippen finding Merry on the battlefield next to the dead oliphaunt, just more drama that wasn't needed

- As someone else stated earlier, Gandalf was called Mithrandir only once in Denethor's hall, and obviously that name is alien to alot of people

- Much of the final lead-up to Mount Doom seemed too rushed, both Frodo and Sam were just kind of there all of a sudden. whereas in the story Sam has a hell of a time finding water and they march with the Orc troop for a while

- After Eowyn kills the witch-king and says bye bye to Theoden it just cuts off too short. guess there was no time to have scenes of her almost dying

- Denethor's 'madness' wasn't well-explained. He came across as a weird old fellow that was losing a few marbles, but it seemed to erratic to just suddenly have him about to burn himself and Faramir. his death was good though

- The pig-faced Orc leader, fuck that

- Beregrond would have been a cool addition, and I thought they were about to introduce him for a moment or two, but oh well

- Sam wasn't shown putting on the ring and running around whilst Frodo is locked up in the orc tower, which would have been great to see, and it would have further shown his slight attachment to the ring when he offers it back to Frodo

- Gollum called Sam fat a little too much

- Nothing was shown of Faramir and Eowyn getting together

- Gollum not yelling out 'Precious' one last time as he falls into the Mount Doom fires, and the way Jackson added the tension of Frodo also falling and only just hanging on

- As for the end, I didn't think that it dragged as much as I expected. Think about a few of the last chapters in the book, the company go and say farewell to heaps of characters on their way back home like Treebeard and people at Rivendell and Butterbur etc, but the Hobbits were just at Minis Tirith one moment and then back in The Shire the next. I, for one, am glad nothing of 'The Scouring' was *******d, since I've never enjoyed that part of the story

- If anything, Saruman sitting at the side of the road like a beggar with Wormtongue should have been *******d, and given him a bit of closure

now for some scenes that I LOVED, and I'll keep it short:

- Gandalf wacking the crap out of Denethor with his staff, hilarious!

- Rohan's arrival, just the way the horses mowed down the enemy

- The Dead looked amazing

- Eowyn and Merry riding around the Oliphaunt feet and all that

- Frodo and Sam lying on the rock and being rescued by the eagles and Gandalf, it just seemed very momentous

- Certain shots of the rocks that launched from inside Minas Tirith onto the orcs below

- The Orcs launching the heads of the Rohan riders back at the stronghold, I always felt that was a sickening moment in the story and I'm glad it was *******d

I can't be bothered thinking of any more, loved the shit out of it though

[jczeroman]

Originally posted by strange_one

- Much of the final lead-up to Mount Doom seemed too rushed, both Frodo and Sam were just kind of there all of a sudden. whereas in the story Sam has a hell of a time finding water and they march with the Orc troop for a while

- Denethor's 'madness' wasn't well-explained. He came across as a weird old fellow that was losing a few marbles, but it seemed to erratic to just suddenly have him about to burn himself and Faramir. his death was good though

- The pig-faced Orc leader, fuck that

- Gollum called Sam fat a little too much

- Nothing was shown of Faramir and Eowyn getting together

- Gollum not yelling out 'Precious' one last time as he falls into the Mount Doom fires, and the way Jackson added the tension of Frodo also falling and only just hanging on

now for some scenes that I LOVED, and I'll keep it short:

- Rohan's arrival, just the way the horses mowed down the enemy

- The Dead looked amazing

- Eowyn and Merry riding around the Oliphaunt feet and all that

- Frodo and Sam lying on the rock and being rescued by the eagles and Gandalf, it just seemed very momentous

- Certain shots of the rocks that launched from inside Minas Tirith onto the orcs below

- The Orcs launching the heads of the Rohan riders back at the stronghold, I always felt that was a sickening moment in the story and I'm glad it was *******d

I'd say we have a rare agreance. The EE will suposedly have pretty much everything you missed, as it is about 5 hours.

[wounded]

Originally posted by strange_one
ok, I only just saw it tonight, it was only released here on the 26th. I enjoyed the fuck out of it, but there were, of course, a few problems.



- Sam wasn't shown putting on the ring and running around whilst Frodo is locked up in the orc tower, which would have been great to see, and it would have further shown his slight attachment to the ring when he offers it back to Frodo

- Nothing was shown of Faramir and Eowyn getting together

i agree that sam should have put the ring on. i mean why cut that out, it would have only taken a second for him to do it while hiding and it truly makes him one of the ring bearer, if for just a moment.

they did show faramir and eowyn standing next to each other at the end, they may have held hands i can't remember, but a friend of mine who has never read the book assumed they hooked it up, so maybe people got that.

i like that on the back of frodo's neck are chain marks showing how heavy the ring was.


and you know a lot of the ee will be frodo and sam, they didn't even show them shedding their orc disguises

[wounded]

oh yeah and didn't Eomer become king of rohan? i can't remember. they should have showed that.