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Old 03-14-2019, 05:30 PM   #31
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that's because Big Boy Bill saw us unfit to stream the album

as he did with Mary Star, Zeitgeist, and whatever other albums people loathed upon release but pretend to like now!

 
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:31 PM   #32
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(sheathe your swords, gents. i'm kidding about that last part)

 
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:38 PM   #33
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what is going on here

 
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:41 PM   #34
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that's because Big Boy Bill saw us unfit to stream the album

as he did with Mary Star, Zeitgeist, and whatever other albums people loathed upon release but pretend to like now!
Exactly, even Billy wants to sweep those under the rug.

 
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:46 PM   #35
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If you're not on streaming, then you're dead

 
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:00 PM   #36
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careful what you wish for

 
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:34 PM   #37
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Is it avant garde when the guitars and synth sounds are intricately produced, but the drumbeat sounds like a lo-fi bedroom demo? And you have hooks that are sang off-key and chopped up with like... the opposite of hooks, which kill the momentum of the song and the listener’s patience? Like... if you’re gonna launch yourself as a solo artist with an album of 3minute pop songs, surely the ideas is to create songs people can remember? Why is the production and songwriting constantly getting in it’s own way? I just... don’t get this album, and I’m sorry it hurt Bill so much, but everything that went wrong afterwards started here.

 
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:27 PM   #38
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"TheCameraEye" might be my favorite song Billy has written since SP1 ended. That sounded like something off a Smashing Pumpkins from an alternate future where Adore was a massive success.
totally agree. love that song

 
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:32 PM   #39
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If Billy truly walked the walk he'd get rid of all the classic albums and leave only the trash on Spotify.

 
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:36 PM   #40
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Haven't heard it in forever, but I remember Tilt being really good.

 
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:15 PM   #41
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I stand by my "Buzzed" post.

 
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:17 PM   #42
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TFE is a pretty cool album with some really good and some pretty bad songs, but overall it's interesting and worthwhile

 
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:24 PM   #43
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occasionally interesting and relatively recent TFE thread

in which i stalk and harass brian leisgang(?) online and demand answers, resulting in his eventual acquiescence

 
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:26 PM   #44
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TFE is a pretty cool album with some really good and some pretty bad songs, but overall it's interesting and worthwhile
this is the take i'll be endorsing for the 2020 election

 
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Old 03-15-2019, 02:42 AM   #45
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TFE is a pretty cool album with some really good and some pretty bad songs, but overall it's interesting and worthwhile
FAKENEWS

Send post-2003 Billy to Mexico and build the wall.

 
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Old 03-15-2019, 07:20 AM   #46
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I played it to my cousin who has a masters in music from some fancy school in vienna.

he said (in thick euro accent) "jonny this is very bad music." I was pretty butthurt. lol tfe sucks.
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Old 03-15-2019, 07:49 AM   #47
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I absolutely love TFE. The short film is amazing too.

 
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Old 03-15-2019, 08:58 AM   #48
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Old 03-15-2019, 08:59 AM   #49
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also i can imagine few things douchier than using your masters in music to "objectively" determine that a Billy Corgan album is bad

and yet, i can't deny it is also hilarious

 
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Old 03-15-2019, 09:06 AM   #50
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I think I only dislike All Things Change and specially I'm ready. I live Pretty Pretty Star and Camera Eye, which is very innovative and out of the box, and I wish Billy tried more of that.

I would say TFE was the last time Billy took any risks. And I respect him for trying new things more than for middle of the road albums.

 
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Old 03-15-2019, 10:05 AM   #51
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his name is harold.

 
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Old 03-15-2019, 10:59 AM   #52
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Does no one like Now (And Then)? Common.

 
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Old 03-15-2019, 11:12 AM   #53
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yeah i do. i also kinda liked the camera eye and to love somebody.

the rest can eat megalothon dong, tho, as i believe ive already noted.

 
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Old 03-15-2019, 11:22 AM   #54
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Does no one like Now (And Then)? Common.
i like the bit where it veers into the darkness for that mournful solo

 
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Old 03-15-2019, 11:28 AM   #55
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as a whole, the album has interesting textures and a (to me) pleasingly stark aesthetic; unfortunately the songs are weak and it's just dead on arrival

 
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Old 03-15-2019, 11:30 AM   #56
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DOA

 
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Old 03-15-2019, 11:32 AM   #57
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Sadmachines and some confused netphorians, so nope, no one.

 
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:31 PM   #58
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Not exactly on topic, but Stephen Malkmus released his solo "drum machine/foray into electronics" album today and it absolutely spanks TFE. Another L for BiLLy.

 
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:54 PM   #59
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ok

 
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:55 PM   #60
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you guys like boris?

 
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