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Gish | 24 | 53.33% | |
Machina | 21 | 46.67% | |
Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll |
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01-12-2019, 01:22 PM | #481 |
Minion of Satan
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Gish has better energy, by far. Sounds more like a band
But machina has waaaaaaaaay more developed songwriting and more diversity of noises, so for me it edges or just rubs out gish by like a couple droplets |
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01-12-2019, 02:26 PM | #482 |
real estate cowboy
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Gish/adore/mcis/SD/PI/aeroplane >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machina
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01-12-2019, 02:46 PM | #483 |
Socialphobic
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Ban mashed vajayjay
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01-12-2019, 02:55 PM | #484 |
real estate cowboy
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ok
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01-12-2019, 03:17 PM | #485 | |
Minion of Satan
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Plus not even WOUND though? Not even Standing Inside the Spotlight of Your Mother’s Love with very Light that shining down onto you In Your Body? |
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01-12-2019, 03:52 PM | #486 |
Braindead
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Wound alone is better than anything on Gish, and I love Gish.
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01-12-2019, 03:58 PM | #487 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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now you know what would be a good poll?
pre-gish vs machina ii |
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01-12-2019, 04:03 PM | #488 |
Minion of Satan
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Pre-Gish vs. Machina pre-master
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01-12-2019, 05:19 PM | #489 |
Braindead
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01-12-2019, 05:19 PM | #490 |
Braindead
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i'm voting pre-gish though
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01-12-2019, 08:49 PM | #491 |
Demi-God
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pre-gish probably wins that one
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01-13-2019, 09:58 AM | #492 |
huh
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Machina is like my first born. It got me into this band and it sticks with me still.
Sorry. |
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01-13-2019, 10:12 AM | #493 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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Oh I thought you were going to say you offered it up to Moloch.
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01-13-2019, 01:41 PM | #494 |
Minion of Satan
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got into the band with Machina? n00b
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01-13-2019, 06:18 PM | #495 |
Ownz
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01-13-2019, 06:42 PM | #496 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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01-14-2019, 12:24 AM | #497 |
Socialphobic
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i got into SP during Zeitgeist era, but my first album was Adore
even so, my pole is better than that of Took's daddy |
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01-14-2019, 01:06 AM | #498 |
Braindead
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Machina has higher highs but lower lows
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01-14-2019, 09:00 AM | #499 | |
real estate cowboy
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heavy metal machine, sacred and profane, crying tree are absolutely terrible. hardly any redeeming qualities in the first place, also as if that's not bad enough the songs are stretched out to a ridiculous extent. hey guys hmm is only 4 minutes long, let's add the chorus again. and again! and then let's add multiple, even worse versions on m2. glass and the ghost children has awesome atmosphere, moreso than the other aspects like chord progression or singing melody. but then there has to be a minute or two of the sound of billy talking to his therapist. the therapist had to be rolling his eyes when hearing that pretentious bullshit but billy thought it was good enough to put it in the middle of a song, for the whole world to hear. I remember really trying to like it when it came out and the first few years after that and I kind of did, although the disappointment after the earlier albums always prevailed. on listening occasions later in my life I disliked most of it and I still try it once in every few years and I usually end up asking myself why. I don't completely hate everything about it, I like aforementioned songs and glass' theme, dross, age of innocence. I love the superhuman drumming on TEG and cash car star. and some other aspects. but the bad outweighs the good by a big margin. song bores me. |
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01-14-2019, 09:05 AM | #500 |
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sounds like a personal problem
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01-14-2019, 09:08 AM | #501 |
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and what the FUCK is people's deal with Sacred + Profane? do y'all just pick track titles at random or something and start talking shit about them? at worst I could see someone deeming it a skipper but it doesn't even approach the levels of being potentially objectionable as HMM or GATGC
frankly i can't believe people still even waste their energy on hating/fighting against anything pre-Zwan by this point. Bill was at least still respectable here |
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01-14-2019, 09:15 AM | #502 |
real estate cowboy
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01-14-2019, 09:21 AM | #503 | |
real estate cowboy
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01-14-2019, 09:56 AM | #504 |
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Sacred and Profane is a horrible load of shit.
HMM and GATGC are singular epic rock near-masterpieces. |
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01-14-2019, 10:03 AM | #505 |
real estate cowboy
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depending on your definition of 'near', I agree!
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01-14-2019, 10:04 AM | #506 |
Socialphobic
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y'all're fucked up!
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01-14-2019, 10:05 AM | #507 |
Socialphobic
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truly fucked up
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01-14-2019, 10:10 AM | #508 |
Socialphobic
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Sacred to me has the ambiguity of sounding celebratory & melancholic at the same time, sometimes more one than the other - a mark of a lot of Bill's best work
plus, it's got that bangin' rhythm underneath it all I'll chalk it up to you guys being disappointed by Machina on release & never quite overcoming the trauma |
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01-14-2019, 10:12 AM | #509 |
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I can honestly say that Sacred is the only SP1 era album track that I not only dislike but find truly disposable. It just feels bland and listless with that drum loop forcing Jimmy to stay on the grid and its meandering tempo. Also it has no hooks.
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01-14-2019, 10:14 AM | #510 |
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the drumbeat thing's a matter of taste i guess, but it has like 3 hooks, lol. & that's not even counting the heavenly lead that goes into Bill's "will love ever BE enough?"
god damnit i love the song |
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