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Old 12-06-2018, 06:35 AM   #1
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Default Zwan reissue & tour








Flashback (2012):

Billy:

“Once we clear the Pumpkins’ first era, then I have about 65 unreleased Zwan songs, I have a ton of unreleased stuff relating to my solo album ‘The Future Embrace,’ and then there’s a ton of ‘Zeitgeist’ demos, probably songs I should have put on the album, that are pretty interesting and well-done. Also I have two unreleased acoustic records, plus an unreleased acoustic soundtrack — three albums worth of acoustic albums from the mid-2000s that are totally unreleased. So I’m hoping to just do everything chronologically.”

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Old 12-06-2018, 07:00 AM   #2
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There is simply no sense in getting excited for these kinds of comments from Billy, since chances of that happening so slim, but fuck I hope those releases come true

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 07:07 AM   #3
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Old 12-06-2018, 07:24 AM   #4
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Old 12-06-2018, 07:57 AM   #5
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yeah but bill will release it only on vinyl and streaming.
woo hoo ...

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 08:10 AM   #6
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only available if you buy it together with $900 of tea. ZUZUS EXCLUSIVE DUE TO POPULAR DEMAND (not signed not numbered)

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 08:13 AM   #7
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lol 2019 yeah right
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Old 12-06-2018, 08:14 AM   #8
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I want the Spun soundtrack material.

No interest in a "2/5ths of Zwan" reunion tour.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 08:24 AM   #9
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Old 12-06-2018, 09:14 AM   #10
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Billy is very hands on.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 09:20 AM   #11
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Old 12-06-2018, 09:31 AM   #12
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There is simply no sense in getting excited for these kinds of comments from Billy, since chances of that happening so slim, but fuck I hope those releases come true
He actually released Gish to Adore reissues pretty much on time, Machina was in standby due to deals issues with the label.

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Old 12-06-2018, 11:33 AM   #13
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He also stated a couple points in these Q&As that he has no memory of a couple Hideout songs, so few of those probably exist outside the bootlegs.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 11:37 AM   #14
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Is it Zwan if it's just Billy and Jimmy though? Flip a coin, it could also be Pumpkins.

I suppose they fact they'd be playing Zwan only... but who beyond hardcore fans is going to go to that? Unless they do small club dates. Though that's not Billy's style.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 11:40 AM   #15
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Oh what could have been.

I really wish Zwan would have stuck together longer. I'm one of the ones who loved MSOTS and I've always wanted to hear more of their stuff but all the bootlegs I could find of their concerts online were so awful that I could barely tell what the hell their other music sounded like.


Also, Billy looks really friendly with Paz here. I wonder if the real reason they broke up was a love triangle with Bill, Paz and Pajo.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 11:40 AM   #16
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Paz always looked like she farted into her hand and is about to get Billy to smell it in that picture.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 11:45 AM   #17
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A fart from Paz is a GIFT damn it. You wish she would fart on you.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 11:51 AM   #18
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Billy has stated he is still found of Paz. Maybe she could come back for the tour and stay in the Pumpkins. We can call it Zwampkins.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 11:52 AM   #19
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I'd sure as hell rather have Paz than Jack fucking Bates.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:25 PM   #20
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Is Zwan without Pajo and Matt even Zwan?

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:29 PM   #21
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He'll just do the hired hands thing again. Might as well call it SP

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:38 PM   #22
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It's easy to own everything when you refuse to give your bandmates contracts until after the album is done.

I love how he pretends they had nothing to do with the music even though he never wrote anything like it before or after.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:39 PM   #23
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He'll just do the hired hands thing again. Might as well call it SP
Jeff. JC, and a new rando on bass.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:55 PM   #24
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Also, Billy looks really friendly with Paz here. I wonder if the real reason they broke up was a love triangle with Bill, Paz and Pajo.



 
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:35 PM   #25
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He actually released Gish to Adore reissues pretty much on time, Machina was in standby due to deals issues with the label.
Bill first announced the reissues right after the Metro show in December 2000, so it took eleven years for the first one to come out. By the time we get any of the 2000s stuff it will likely have been 20 years since the announcement was made

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:41 PM   #26
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A fart from Paz is a GIFT damn it. You wish she would fart on you.
Nowhere in my post do I deny this

But for real, the guy was always obviously crushing on her hard. Always thought that comment about 'sex acts in public' or hand jobs under a table or whatever was partially fuelled by jealousy.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:41 PM   #27
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I'm imagining the level of vitriol Billy would reach in the liner notes for a MSOTS reissue and it's fucking amazing to think about

 
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Nowhere in my post do I deny this

But for real, the guy was always obviously crushing on her hard. Always thought that comment about 'sex acts in public' or hand jobs under a table or whatever was partially fuelled by jealousy.
Was it? The story I know is that Pajo was having an affair with Bjorn's wife.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 02:02 PM   #29
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Was it? The story I know is that Pajo was having an affair with Bjorn's wife.


Happy Birthday, Bjorn.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 02:26 PM   #30
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Is Zwan without Pajo and Matt even Zwan?
The audacity of Billy suggesting that anyone would want to see the reunion tour of his second band (that no one has heard of) with 2/5 of the actual members is hilarious.

I will point out that Paz is the tenous link between Pavement and SP. She played violin on the Silver Jews record "Tanglewood Numbers".

 
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