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10-31-2018, 03:43 AM | #4711 |
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10-31-2018, 08:02 AM | #4712 |
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he is your
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10-31-2018, 11:16 AM | #4713 |
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Shiny and oh so bright tour end comments...
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10-31-2018, 08:14 PM | #4714 |
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I live in British Columbia... I would've had to travel to Seattle or one of the Edmonton/Calgary shows... Would've been a costly endeavor... Really, it was the seating situation that deterred me from attending... I had such a poor experience with that at the GnR show, so I didn't wanna take the gamble... As much as I enjoyed the show, the crowd DOES look lame as hell at the Seattle gig... One of the worst I've ever seen.
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10-31-2018, 08:17 PM | #4715 |
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I'll bet you 20 dollars i can easily find at least 10 comments from shows (NOT INCLUDING THE SEATTLE SHOW) commenting that the vocals weren't as bad at other shows... Hell, if you were serious about betting, I'd guess that I could find 50 fairly easily.
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10-31-2018, 08:27 PM | #4716 |
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I don't know why Billy sings like shit in the full band context, because he's usually near studio quality when he's doing a small acoustic set like this http://forums.netphoria.org/showpost...48&postcount=3
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10-31-2018, 08:29 PM | #4717 |
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I would say opposite. That show he did of acoustic covers at Zuzu's last year was the most embarrassing performance I have ever seen from him
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10-31-2018, 08:42 PM | #4718 |
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It's sad, but I just don't think there's much left in the tank as far as his vocals go...
Might be why he was so eager to do a reunion now, why he could still be at least serviceable... 5 to 10 years down the road he might not be able to pull it off... Happens to a lot of rock stars... Which is why it makes guys like Daltrey and Jagger so impressive. |
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10-31-2018, 08:44 PM | #4719 |
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nah, his vocals were far worse 2009-2016. He's had a big overall improvement since him and Jimmy and James played together in 2016 which is why I previously guessed he might have been seeing a vocal coach
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10-31-2018, 08:48 PM | #4720 |
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It's only so long before Corgan gets into this kind of vocal territory
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10-31-2018, 08:49 PM | #4721 | |
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Probably why he sounds a bit better overall. |
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10-31-2018, 09:35 PM | #4722 |
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what kind of vocal processors are you talking about? and were they just turned off for that seattle show? cause he doesn't sound good there, but he sounded great on other nights of the tour, as I already said
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10-31-2018, 10:02 PM | #4723 |
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There's no processing, he just doesn't push his vocal chords like he used to, which singers aren't ever "supposed" to do. I can say from personal experience that singing properly is hard when you're on a loud stage and you're also playing guitar, because it takes conscious effort to coordinate your breathing and singing properly, all the while the guitar is weighting against your diaphragm area, where as when it's just you and the volume is lower, you can concentrate a lot more easily. I'd think Billy would have mastered this sort of thing by now, but he is still a rock star, and they've never been known for their professionalism.
It's funny to me to hear Billy say on instragram say that some Machina era live shows he was reviewing were sizzling hot, to paraphrase. He hears his own out of tune wailing and hears no problem with it, he thinks it's great. |
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10-31-2018, 10:11 PM | #4724 |
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The only way you can honestly measure the vocal quality is if there was 2 pro-shot videos to compare.
There's Seattle mobile-phone footage that sounds much better than the live stream. If you can find the Jimmy Fallon pro-shot footage, you'll see that he sounds every bit as tired and weak as you claim he did in Seattle. |
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11-06-2018, 06:36 AM | #4725 |
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Shiny and oh so bright Christmas special with -at least on concert posters- return of the Smashing Pumpkins to peak position.
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11-06-2018, 04:16 PM | #4726 | |
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11-06-2018, 08:38 PM | #4727 |
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For me, that kinda thing bothers me.
When I see a band live, I wanna see authenticity. I'd rather hear the singer sound a little flat and off than masking it with filters and auto-tune... Unfortunately, this seems to be the industry standard now. I still gotta tip my hat to the bands that refuse it... Mike Love in his 70's refuses to use any autotune or filters when he performs live. That's how it should be. |
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11-06-2018, 09:48 PM | #4728 | |
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11-06-2018, 10:13 PM | #4729 | |
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11-07-2018, 09:13 AM | #4730 |
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I don't know how much you know about grammer - I"M AN EXPERT
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11-07-2018, 10:59 AM | #4732 |
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11-07-2018, 01:05 PM | #4733 |
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relax child someone just put hair on the b0lly statue
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11-19-2018, 02:34 PM | #4734 | |
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Billy's auto-tune is not as noticeable because there are no harmonies for the most part, and they've refined the tech since 2012. It 100% was there. |
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11-19-2018, 11:48 PM | #4735 | |
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The book is rather new too... Odd. I don't have spotify, but I'll take your word for it. |
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11-19-2018, 11:50 PM | #4736 |
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Attn all humans who don't know this: if you use the free version of spotify on your computer, it has almost all the features of premium. shit will change your life
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11-20-2018, 12:12 AM | #4737 |
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What's the point? I can download any album in seconds with Soulseek.
I think Spotify actually came preloaded on my new computer, but I'm anti-streaming services. The artists get screwed while the labels prosper. |
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11-20-2018, 01:03 AM | #4738 |
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spotify allows you to listen to music you would never otherwise take the time to listen to. the amount of new music I have been listening to has exploded since I started using spotify.
also stop repeating some talking point you don't even understand |
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11-20-2018, 02:16 AM | #4739 |
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I can’t read all of these comments about his vocals but I was actually at a show and his voice sounded fantastic. He’s been working on it. He sounded like shit when I saw SP in 2015.
There are no “processors” at play. His voice still sounded imperfect at the recent show, but his voice has ALWAYS been imperfect. There’s plenty of Siamese era live recordings to prove that. And MCIS, and adore, etc etc. |
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11-20-2018, 12:40 PM | #4740 |
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