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07-11-2018, 11:10 AM | #1561 |
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He once scolded me in the group for asking why so many of them thought Oceania was on par with MCIS
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07-11-2018, 01:18 PM | #1562 |
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07-11-2018, 02:07 PM | #1563 |
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07-11-2018, 02:11 PM | #1564 |
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07-11-2018, 02:19 PM | #1565 |
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07-11-2018, 02:30 PM | #1566 |
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It takes a really ugly person to defend BC at this point, and a really deluded one (or at least unknowledgable) to come up with the basis of a defense in the first place. It takes ignoring everything the average fan knows, and inventing new material based on wild assumption and/or extreme benefit of doubt. As bad as you might think he is, he is even worse.
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07-11-2018, 02:52 PM | #1567 |
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that Clay Tuckett guy is a real piece of shit. And yeah, he will find you all over the internet and harass you for having an opinion that differs from him.
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07-11-2018, 02:52 PM | #1568 |
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Wow, that was pretty innocuous compared to some of the batshit insane and petty stuff he's spewed over the years. When I saw that gif, I assumed it was because he was talking about the lifesaving virtues of Jungian therapy or how Virgos are argumentative or something.
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07-11-2018, 02:54 PM | #1569 |
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to put in context, P Diddy was pretty fucking lame in 1998.
let's get back to talking about what a loser that clay tucket guy is. |
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07-11-2018, 03:00 PM | #1570 | |
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Anyway, yeah... that Clay guy seems like a tool. |
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07-11-2018, 03:06 PM | #1571 |
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07-11-2018, 03:14 PM | #1572 |
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Were those remixed ever released? I've never heard anything about them before.
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07-11-2018, 03:51 PM | #1573 |
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The remix of "Ava Adore" appears on the Adore reissue. As far as I know, the "Perfect" remix has yet to surface.
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07-11-2018, 04:16 PM | #1574 | |
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You fucking guys better not jump all over me. I'm not Billiam apologist - I don't know the guy, I'm just a super fan. I understand his dickishness in all this, BUT it would be so much better for the tour if she was included. It hurts them all. It would at least account for a 5% bump in sales (according to my calculations) and they could also do the over-the-top KISS/Eagles/Motley thing of huge press conferences and being able to freely use the "reunion" gimmick. In a recent interview (Maybe Beats 1) he spoke of his initial sort of philosophical split with her. Something like she saw music as a "lifestyle thing" where he was 24/7. He noted, "we would get together and it was obvious she hadn't touched her instrument in 2 weeks." If he's pissy about her not playing for two weeks, imagine the trepidation of not playing for 18 years with this much on the line. He would certainly not go beyond the "Adler deal" in that situation. If she is unstable or at least not willing to submit her life to the band the whole thing would disintegrate if she was having issues every night and not being lock-step with a group of guys that are at the top of their game from a playing perspective. It would make the band legacy and their relationship worse than it is now. Is that hyperbolic to think of it that way? She is silent now because she was surely descended upon by an army of lawyers due to the slanderous things she was saying. If you're cool it's not slanderous (or libelous?) but if you're a lawyer it is. BUT why hasn't she released any Fuck Off videos of her cranking through "Silverfuck" or "Hummer" or "Cherub Rock" to dispel the notion that she is way out of practice? Of course she doesn't have anything to prove to people that love her, but it wouldn't hurt her angle in this argument. The in-person meeting thing is a he said/she said. I know they said she was invited to LA and she said it was bullshit, but didn't he recently say (Stern?) that he lives about 1.5 hours from her and could not get a meeting on the books? If you leave a band because you don't like the oppressive attitude of the leader, you don't like touring, you don't like hours in the studio, you scoff at the dedication to your instrument and duties that are expected of you, you roll your eyes and undermine your bandmates in televised interviews, and you have drug/alcohol/mood issues, don't you think that her return would be treated cautiously (Adler role) at best? If she was the same it would work for a cash grab 10-month tour, but would be incredibly detrimental to the band if they were serious about forging ahead again as a unit. |
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07-11-2018, 04:20 PM | #1575 | |
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The file is all fucked up, like it skips a bit, so it probably came from, like, Limewire? I know absolutely nothing about trading so this must have been very widely available at some point—no clue if people ever decided it was real Last edited by topleybird : 07-11-2018 at 04:24 PM. Reason: had a stray asterisk in there, fuck fuck fuck |
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07-11-2018, 04:28 PM | #1576 |
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Look at what she says here:
She's literally in one of the biggest bands in the world and complaining about working more than 6-hour days, complaining about recording and touring - I mean, come on. How could Corgan and her ever get along? I've come to appreciate her role in the band much more as an editor of Billy and a tastemaker for the band, but despite those beneficial attributes, an attitude like that will bring a band down. |
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07-11-2018, 06:44 PM | #1577 | |
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07-11-2018, 07:51 PM | #1578 |
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You! You should ... be the one ... your - you shut up!
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07-11-2018, 07:57 PM | #1579 | ||
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"Links to Smashing Pumpkins unreleased material is prohibited here" Phew, dodged a bullet. |
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07-11-2018, 08:51 PM | #1580 | |
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07-11-2018, 09:00 PM | #1581 | |
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07-11-2018, 10:21 PM | #1582 |
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do we know if in fact billy did throw some lawyers at D'arcy?
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07-11-2018, 11:05 PM | #1583 |
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07-12-2018, 12:23 AM | #1584 | |
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07-12-2018, 01:18 AM | #1585 |
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I doubt Billy's lawyers went after D'arcy. The last time I talked to her in May she seemed to be in a good mood and wasn't even talking about the Pumpkins. This was about a month after she regularly stopped posting comments on Alternative Nation. I think she said her piece/vented and has just moved on. She's a very private person.
Billy attacking D'arcy, or even worse having lawyers threaten her, would totally destroy any positive publicity for the tour. Imagine those headlines. It'd shine an even bigger light on her not being there, and make Billy look like a total asshole and play into all of the worst media narratives about him. I do think the picture was probably retaliation, but it wasn't circulated too much fortunately due to the complete lack of context. What is interesting is how Billy seemed to generally speak more positively about her on Stern last month, outside of the slander quote, compared to the Lars Ulrich and New York Times interviews that were conducted back in February where he said she'd 'burned the bridge forever.' He actually said she was eccentric in a good way on Stern, and even that 'maybe someday' she'd be back, but that he thought that ship had probably sailed. |
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07-12-2018, 01:58 AM | #1587 | |
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07-12-2018, 03:28 AM | #1588 |
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just some?
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07-12-2018, 06:32 AM | #1589 | |
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Who would hire someone who hasnt played her instrument for 19 years regularly? Who would want to go on tour with someone who has an alcohol, pill or psychological prob?? Would you take that risk? Billy is a psycho but he is the boss. Darcy is a insecure posssible drug addicted cow girl who feels let down. I am glad that she isnt there cause i dont wanna see a musical disaster |
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07-12-2018, 06:54 AM | #1590 |
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