Star Wars fans are idiots

[LaBelle]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

I don't think more new movies make the originals feel less special. SW fans can basically choose their own version of the canon at this point.

And they do! I have friends that say everything by disney is fan fiction.

[redbreegull]

a lot of people were attached the the expanded universe and reject disney. and disney obviously voided the whole expanded universe. and George Lucas himself said to him, the only canon were his six movies. so. who even cares. it's a big mythology with a lot of different contributors and interpretations, but the original three movies is the core of it and they will always be good

[FlamingGlobes]

I loved that Last Jedi ran over all of JJ's boring world building/mystery box bullshit, backed up over them and then back again over and over until it all became just a big brown smear.

I never gave a fuck who Rey's parents were and never will.

[LaBelle]

Killing Snoke was the best thing they did on The Last Jedi (I loved the entire throne room sequence)
everything else was more miss than hit to me.

Though I don't mind what they did with Luke, just thought the execution was awkward. Same with Leia, her space walk scene in concept is sound, but in execution looked weird in a bad way.

[LaBelle]

Originally Posted by FlamingGlobes

I loved that Last Jedi ran over all of JJ's boring world building/mystery box bullshit, backed up over them and then back again over and over until it all became just a big brown smear.

I never gave a fuck who Rey's parents were and never will.

#teamKenobi confirmed!

[ilikeplanets]

I've not seen the new movies.....probably because I haven't seen the old ones. I'm not sure why I never got into Star Wars, but it just didn't click. The fans do seem idiotic but that holds true for the vast majority of fandoms. I mean, check THIS place out.

[Elphenor]

we are not fans

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by LaBelle

Killing Snoke was the best thing they did on The Last Jedi (I loved the entire throne room sequence)
everything else was more miss than hit to me.

Though I don't mind what they did with Luke, just thought the execution was awkward. Same with Leia, her space walk scene in concept is sound, but in execution looked weird in a bad way.

I agree with 100% of this

[Disco King]

I feel like I'm supposed to like Star Wars because I like other nerd shit, but I never got into it, either.

Most nerd cultures are cancer. Like, even though I am only now starting to play video games more and trying to appreciate the medium as having just we great a potential as any other, everybody I've met who identifies themselves as a "gamer" has been dreadfully dull.

And I love superhero comics, but so many superhero fans seem borderline illiterate. Instead of judging stories on theme, characterization, etc., they only think it's a good comic if the characters sufficiently resemble the versions the reader first encountered when introduced to the series. It's hard to find communities to discuss superhero comics where most people aren't brain-dead.

[Elphenor]

yo but Battlefront 2

Force Unleashed

Kotor 1+2

Rogue Squadron

so many good Star Wars videogames

[Elphenor]

Force Unleashed had a badass story based on some sort of expanded universe canon where you play as Vader's secret sith apprentice and hunt down Jedi

[redbreegull]

I started Force Unleashed but got bored after a bit. The gameplay is very cool but pretty repetitive

[FlamingGlobes]

Originally Posted by Disco King

I feel like I'm supposed to like Star Wars because I like other nerd shit, but I never got into it, either.

Most nerd cultures are cancer. Like, even though I am only now starting to play video games more and trying to appreciate the medium as having just we great a potential as any other, everybody I've met who identifies themselves as a "gamer" has been dreadfully dull.

And I love superhero comics, but so many superhero fans seem borderline illiterate. Instead of judging stories on theme, characterization, etc., they only think it's a good comic if the characters sufficiently resemble the versions the reader first encountered when introduced to the series. It's hard to find communities to discuss superhero comics where most people aren't brain-dead.

It's kind of amusing and a little sad to watch nerds reveal themselves to be just as toxic as their bullies.

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

I started Force Unleashed but got bored after a bit. The gameplay is very cool but pretty repetitive

the power fantasy mostly carried it

and then the sequel was a disgrace

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by FlamingGlobes

I loved that Last Jedi ran over all of JJ's boring world building/mystery box bullshit, backed up over them and then back again over and over until it all became just a big brown smear.

I never gave a fuck who Rey's parents were and never will.

The whole dynastic element was strong in the original trilogy though, it felt kinda satisfying to me that they would tie new Super Amaze Jedis to the old ones. The Luke/Darth Vader reveal was one of the most powerful reveals of the original trilogy, I felt like a similar parent reveal for Rey would be interesting, even though I guess it was just a cheap imitation of the original.

I suppose having been at the mercy of the guy who made Lost, it probably was better to run over everything.

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by LaBelle

Killing Snoke was the best thing they did on The Last Jedi (I loved the entire throne room sequence)
everything else was more miss than hit to me.

Though I don't mind what they did with Luke, just thought the execution was awkward. Same with Leia, her space walk scene in concept is sound, but in execution looked weird in a bad way.

The thing I didn’t like about the throne room scene was how weirdly easy Snoke was to kill, compared to all of his guards. I found the second half a bit tedious because I was just waiting for it to be finished, now that the main packet of narrative information had been delivered.

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

I love all the new characters, I just think Last Jedi squandered a lot of their potential

I have not seen Clone Wars but I thought most fans liked it

That wouldn’t surprise me, I didn’t intentionally watch it either, just saw snippets while my kids watched it on their Kids TV channel, and was sad to see the kind of production values it had. Looking back maybe the reason I am so accepting of the newer films is because this horrible looking TV series had my expectations set very low already.

[Shallowed]

Originally Posted by LaBelle

Same with Leia, her space walk scene in concept is sound, but in execution looked weird in a bad way.

I was prepared for some kind of poignant moment where she was killed off, since Carrie Fisher died I figured it would have to happen. Having her fly back like a telepathic CGI statue was a bit of a tasteless subversion. Also, being able to survive the vacuum of space is too much too ask for my suspense of disbelief.

[FlamingGlobes]

Originally Posted by vixnix

The whole dynastic element was strong in the original trilogy though, it felt kinda satisfying to me that they would tie new Super Amaze Jedis to the old ones. The Luke/Darth Vader reveal was one of the most powerful reveals of the original trilogy, I felt like a similar parent reveal for Rey would be interesting, even though I guess it was just a cheap imitation of the original.

That's just it. JJ's stuff all felt like a lazy rehash of shit we've seen before. Last Jedi wasn't perfect, but at least it felt different and new.

I suppose having been at the mercy of the guy who made Lost, it probably was better to run over everything.

I'm sayin'.

[redbreegull]

being different was not enough to make the last jedi enjoyable for me. the problems with it are just too big, leaving the predictable TFA as the superior film

Abrams' vision of the SW universe was much better regardless of the plot being a rehash, and I had incredibly low expectations for him because I hate his Star Trek movies. The Last Jedi actually felt like they made a movie from fan fiction or something

[FlamingGlobes]

Eh, I'd prefer new and flawed over rote and predictable.

[FlamingGlobes]

Full disclosure though: I don't feel *that* passionately about these films, so we can still be friends.

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by FlamingGlobes

Eh, I'd prefer new and flawed over rote and predictable.

In most cases I would agree with you, I just thought the bad parts of TLJ were really, really bad.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by LaBelle

Stuff like this just makes me kinda wish the whole Star Wars franchise simply ceased to exist.
And I like Star Wars movies.

How did people expect things were gonna turn out once Disney bought the rights to the franchise?

[LaBelle]

I don't know, they seem to take no issue with the marvel stuff which is also ruled by disney.

Oh well.

[bright_doom]

Smashing Pumpkins dis at about the 5 minute mark

[FlamingGlobes]

So, you like Red Letter Media eh?

[LaBelle]

[Elphenor]

but you're a Star Wars fan doesn't that make you an idiot

[LaBelle]

I went to see the Han Solo movie, I most definitely feel like one.