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Old 06-07-2018, 10:35 AM   #31
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YOU CALL YOURSELF FANS???

BEST SONG IN AGES

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:35 AM   #32
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GO LISTEN TO BRUNO MARS IF YOU DONT LIKE THIS

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:36 AM   #33
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Yeah I was disappointed in the drum production

Reminds me of Oceania. Just kinda...weird and vaguely wrong sounding
Yes exactly, just very dry and the cymbals sound almost deadened after each hit. Can't wait to hear the "3 guitars version" on tour.

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:37 AM   #34
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Where to start. The guitars sound like crap, somehow Jimmy's drumming makes this bad song worse. Vocals are still dry and carry zero emotional weight. The melody is just atrocious. NUTHIN BUT A BAWDY!

How can someone who has written so many great songs lose the quality control this bad? I can't think of another artist who has lost the touch this bad.

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:39 AM   #35
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Wow is this terrible.

Worse than One and All, but better than Being Beige, maybe?

It fits in comparison with those tracks, what else needs to be said? There's nothing new here.

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:39 AM   #36
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jesus fucking christ

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:41 AM   #37
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It's mediocre guitar riffing with modern Billy's vocals. No guitar solo. Nothing incredibly inspiring from Jimmy's end. What exactly were they hoping to accomplish here?

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:42 AM   #38
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I mean what the fuck is this? There's no aesthetic or beauty to it. It's just so dry and generic

It's like the opposite of the Tonight Tonight video/track. Gorgeous production, cool turn of the century vibe, parody of that Le Voyage Dans la Lun film

This is just Corgan screaming BURN DOWN THE SUN as if that's supposed to mean something over shitty compressed guitars

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:44 AM   #39
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Also that one hook is a complete rip from I Hate Myself for Loving You.

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:44 AM   #40
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Bills surprisingly sexy steven tyler impersonation “eye-eee-eye-eee-eye-eee-eye-eee” truly tickled my scrotehole; otherwise, song is boring af

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:45 AM   #41
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Bills surprisingly sexy steven tyler impersonation “eye-eee-eye-eee-eye-eee-eye-eee” truly tickled my scrotehole; otherwise, song is boring af
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:46 AM   #42
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Yes exactly, just very dry and the cymbals sound almost deadened after each hit. Can't wait to hear the "3 guitars version" on tour.
Jimmy seems to like really dry rides now. At least the crashes sound like real cymbals unlike Oceania

He worked a lot more rimshots in there than usual, which was one of the two or three redeeming things about the track

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It's mediocre guitar riffing with modern Billy's vocals. No guitar solo. Nothing incredibly inspiring from Jimmy's end. What exactly were they hoping to accomplish here?
That flam transition at 1:18 was cool. Some of those tom fills in the chorus sound like he was taking inspiration from Oceania (2:06)

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:47 AM   #43
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Here we go, cued up.



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Old 06-07-2018, 10:48 AM   #44
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Billy is nothing but a baldie in my mind

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:48 AM   #45
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Well, is it bad? I don't think so. It's just forgettable.

I'd rather have an awful song like "Because You Are" than this tho. I mean, it is like Billy was still trying to experiment something when he wrote Because You Are... now, this... who is he talking to? How does he want people to relate to this song? Vague lyrics, generic guitars. The drums are good, but it sounds like Jimmy is trying to hard to show off, and it's not like we needed him to prove how great a drummer he is anyway...

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:50 AM   #46
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didn't remind me of i 'hate myself for loving you' but it sure does now.

immediately reminded me of 'because the night'.

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:51 AM   #47
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Man...I would have never expected the new song to be this awful.

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:51 AM   #48
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I'm nothing but a B0lly in my mind

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:53 AM   #49
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more like I hate myself for listening to this song amirite.

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:53 AM   #50
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Burn down the sun
I’m not everyone
High and dry
Nothing but a body in my mind

I’m here to stay
Not here today
High and dry
Nothing but a body in my mind
I’m nothing but a body in my mind

I feel that somethin ain’t right
No fear but reasons that I can’t say it

Take down the sun (tear down the sun?)
Bring down the sun (break down the sun?)
I’m not everyone
I’m not everyone
I’m not everyone

Unholy sins
Unholy faith
High and dry
Nothing but a body in mind
I’m left to ash
Not here but past
High and dry
Nothing but a body in mind
I am nothing but a body in my mind

I feel that somethin ain’t right
No fear but reasons that I can’t say it
Take down the sun (tear down the sun?)
Bring down the sun (break down the sun?)
I am not everyone
I am not everyone
Burn down the sun

Speculation
Come on get yourself together (?)
Speculation
Become the only _____
Situation
I am the seer, I am the seeker
Situation
become the one that ___ (fucks?) you (finds?)
become the one that ___ (fucks?) you (finds?)
become the _____ (eye of midnight?)
become the _____ (eye of midnight?)

High and dry
Ash bates eyes(?)
I'm sun-filled, bright
I am nothing but a body in my mind
I am nothing but a body in my mind

Take down the sun (tear down the sun?)
Bring down the sun (break down the sun?)
I’m not everyone
I’m not everyone
Burn down the sun

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changes, i think

i almost want the shakespearean prose back

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:53 AM   #51
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That flam transition at 1:18 was cool. Some of those tom fills in the chorus sound like he was taking inspiration from Oceania (2:06)
Now that I've listened to the song with headphones, yeah the drums sound a little better than I thought. Still a lot of stuff we heard on Zeitgeist though.

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:56 AM   #52
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Like another person said, it's not bad. It's just forgettable.

It will get played on the radio for a short period and then no one will remember.

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:58 AM   #53
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The problem is Billy's voice. Guitars and drums are not the issue.

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:58 AM   #54
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At this point I'm fairly certain that anyone on this board could write a better pumpkins song in one day. Just put your index finger on the 11th fret on A, keep the E open and start from there. Boom its 1994 again. Brand salvaged.

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 11:03 AM   #55
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Old 06-07-2018, 11:05 AM   #56
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Literally more boring than most songs on Monuments and that was the most boring Pumpkins album to date.

You have the most talented drummer of a generation back in the fold, make him sound like Mike Burns. A creative guitarist, bury him in the mix and don’t let him do anything. You make a boring 3 minute rock song that goes absolutely nowhere and rips off Joan Jett.

Leave it to Billy to completely kill the little excitement I had left for this reunion

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 11:06 AM   #57
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First login in ages to thank *Insight Scoop* for the link as I was super curious to hear this track. I have to agree with most of the posters here though, this track sucks. It sounds so phoned in and lacking in ideas and yet the sad thing is I bet they tried. Not to mention it's impossible to tell if Iha is even on this. Bummer.

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 11:09 AM   #58
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changes, i think

i almost want the shakespearean prose back
Speculation
Become the only _____ "Glyph knight" maybe?

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 11:10 AM   #59
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At this point I'm fairly certain that anyone on this board could write a better pumpkins song in one day. Just put your index finger on the 11th fret on A, keep the E open and start from there. Boom its 1994 again. Brand salvaged.
new challenge, everyone on this board capable of recording one full song should have this done by sunday ready to share

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 11:10 AM   #60
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Pretty by-the-numbers on first listen. Not terrible but not mindblowing. Seems very middle of the road and doesn't communicate much of anything. Gonna give it a few days to mull it over.

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeealllly sounds like a ZG-era song though.

 
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