What's happening in Los Angeles?

[houseofglass11]

Originally Posted by cokefantastic

you don't need James Iha or Darcy to make a great SP album

You're right, we don't. But Billy sure as hell does.

[FoolofaTook]

Sleep haven't posted a single instagram pic of them working on their new album. Just one message in morse code.

[FoolofaTook]

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[Corgan's Bluff]

Two Pumpkins fell off the van on their way to L.A., are currently staying in the Pacific Ocean.

[themadcaplaughs]

James and D'arcy aren't involved. This is exactly the same thing that happened when Billy and Jimmy recorded Zeitgeist. Instead of just coming out and admitting James and D'arcy weren't there, Billy and Jimmy post updates from the studio (on Instagram this time instead of MySpace) willfully ignoring the elephant in the room of who will be involved. If James and/or D'arcy were taking part in whatever is going on in L.A., Billy would be promoting it non-stop.

With Zeitgeist and the band coming back, Billy could have just avoided the disappointment by saying "James and D'arcy aren't coming back, but we're excited to move forward with the band." Instead, we had to learn James wasn't in the band through a one paragraph press release he wrote in Rolling Stone and comments from Linda Strawberry on Netphoria.

Similarly, if Billy just came out and said, "hey, these are songs for a solo album," or "Jimmy and I are recording demos for the next Smashing Pumpkins album. James and D'arcy aren't here now, but maybe they will have some parts of the final songs," or "D'arcy and James do not want to be a part of the studio band now, but the possibility remains that we may play shows together down the road," or literally any quick explanation, it would avoid the inevitable disappointment we feel when another BC/JC album arrives.

I suppose it remains possible that James and D'arcy could come in further in the process (when the band starts recording final songs), or might contribute pieces like James did on Ogilala, but it would still be best for Billy and Jimmy to just come forward with what they are doing and what we can expect.

[Forgotten Child]

Why are we assuming they are working on a pumpkins album?

[enthusaroo]

we have an album title...

The Smashing Pumpkins
Zeitgeist II:
Cign of The Tymes

[Shadaloo]

Assuming it is SP - they both appear to be using Smashng Pumpkins tags.

Originally Posted by themadcaplaughs

I suppose it remains possible that James and D'arcy could come in further in the process (when the band starts recording final songs), or might contribute pieces like James did on Ogilala, but it would still be best for Billy and Jimmy to just come forward with what they are doing and what we can expect.

I'm thinking this is is a very likely scenario, but I don't know why they hell they'd relocate to LA apart from having James present though. Makes way more sense for them to come to him rather than having him relocate to Chicago between APC tour legs.

Maybe Bill just doesn't want to announce anything yet until all everything's ready, including the album, and all four of them are in the same room. He's got a bad history of announcing announcements after all.

[amoergosum]

I'm not feeling well today, and have the day off from the studio. So please enjoy this shot I took at the start of last year on my #thirtydays trip 'round America. This being an old train car door where the cherished Santa Fe logo is just barely visible @lagana #WPC

Ein Beitrag geteilt von WilliamPatrickCorgan (@williampcorgan) am Jan 11, 2018 um 9:07 PST

[eyeboogers]

With the whole "Dust and Gold" thing plus BC/JC the most accurate band name to put this out under would be Zwan.

[themadcaplaughs]

Originally Posted by Forgotten Child

Why are we assuming they are working on a pumpkins album?

It very well might not be a Smashing Pumpkins album. As others have pointed out, however, Billy has marked a few of these posts Smashing Pumpkins, and if Billy was working on a solo album, he would said that already (like he did with Ogilala, TheFutureEmbrace, and the solo album he recorded in Nashville). In 2016, Billy posted that video where he said that he was in contact with Jimmy, D'arcy, and James for the first time since 1999. In the video, he mentioned he would be totally transparent with all Smashing Pumpkins activities moving forward. It does seem possible he decided to wait until plans finalize to make an announcement, but it would not be hard for him to just say that.

[thomas_bland]

I wouldn't read too much into the hashtag. Bill doesn't care anymore, whatever the name it's all Pumpkins to him.

[myosis]

he's used the #WPC and #Ogilala hashtags too in case you didn't notice

[SPLATTER]

he doesn't need to clarify what he's working on or who's involved b/c no one cares.

[Ram27]

For about a year, @lagana (David Lagana) and I have gone about the business of trying to rebuild a brand which was considered by many to be on the dustheap of history.

Got excited for a second there...

But if you, like so many, watched the @nwa in it's prime, you'd know there was a magic th

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by SPLATTER

he doesn't need to clarify what he's working on or who's involved b/c no one cares.

i mean this thread exists so qed

[FoolofaTook]

Originally Posted by SPLATTER

he doesn't need to clarify what he's working on or who's involved b/c no one cares.

[T&T]

Originally Posted by reprise85

i mean this thread exists so qed

I'm here and posting but that doesn't prove I care

[reprise85]

ok, but obviously some people do

[T&T]

I love you reprise85. Like you're great. I'm glad you're a mod here. happy 2018!

[smashingjj]

that makes two of us.

[Corgan's Bluff]

Here's another reason for the new song called "Route 666". Picture 2 of the row shows the sign of the west end of the Route 66 in Santa Monica:

When the bosses take a day off - run!! Down in Santa Monica #losangeles #ocean #guiness #endoftheroad

Ein Beitrag geteilt von Howard Willing (@howardwilling_thebear) am Jan 11, 2018 um 1:55 PST

"ROD" STEWART parking his Rolls at the VILLAGE studio too:

Serendipity? Previous post about Rod Stewart - and look who parked his Rolls next to me this morning..... #music #parking #recordingstudio

Ein Beitrag geteilt von Howard Willing (@howardwilling_thebear) am Jan 12, 2018 um 10:44 PST

The start of the Rod Pumpkins...?

This is the closest I’ve been to Rod to date. #legend

Ein Beitrag geteilt von Jimmy Chamberlin (@chamberdrums) am Jan 12, 2018 um 1:04 PST

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by T&T

I love you reprise85. Like you're great. I'm glad you're a mod here. happy 2018!

Originally Posted by smashingjj

that makes two of us.

thanks guys. love you also t&t. bunny.

[Raskolnikov]

OK - back to conspiracy theorizing - in the Jimmy shot up there, is it just me, or is the name on the parking spot to the right of Rod's blurred?

[Corgan's Bluff]

Outside look of The Village:

[Corgan's Bluff]

Two PUMPKINS trophies from recording at The Village:

[Raskolnikov]

Good research there: definitely the parking lot. So, that settles that - just need to have somebody hang out in that parking lot 24/7 until we figure out the current happenings. There we go!

[jakobtheliar]

Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

OK - back to conspiracy theorizing - in the Jimmy shot up there, is it just me, or is the name on the parking spot to the right of Rod's blurred?

It's kind of crossed out. But it just says Jimmy Chamberlain

[Unicycle]

Chamberlain?

What the fuck man, untroo fan alert.

[FoolofaTook]

I'd like to ride your father like a unicycle!