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Unbreakable- FUCK YOU M. NIGHT SHITFACE 5 12.20%
Signs- FUCK YOU AGAIN. I HATE YOUR GODDAMN GUTS YOU PIECE OF SHIT. 4 9.76%
Magnoila- I'm a retarded piece of shit who likes to think I'm intellectual about movies. 4 9.76%
Armageddeon- Steve, you broke my heart being in this. Ben Affleck should be electrocuted his acting sucks the corn out of my ass. 7 17.07%
Blair Witch Project- SCREAMING OH FUCK! AND JOSH! CONSTANTLY ISN'T DIALOGUE. FUCK WHOEVER MADE THIS. GO BACK TO WORKING AT MC DONALDS. 3 7.32%
Mission to Mars- Holy motherfucking God. MOST BORING AND STUPID MOVIE EVER. Didn't Brian De Palma do it? If so he should get electrocuted as well. 2 4.88%
Battlefield Earth- No explanation necessary. 10 24.39%
Planet of the Apes (remake)- THANK YOU TIM BURTON FOR THE MONKEY ABRAHAM LINCOLN STATUE YOU FUCKING MORON. YOU COULDN'T WRITE YOUR WAY OUT OF A RIPPED CONDOM. 6 14.63%
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Old 07-20-2003, 12:26 AM   #31
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i wasn't going for the zing, i wouldnt know how.
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Old 07-20-2003, 12:35 AM   #32
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i thought pta bashing was so last week, too, but that didn't stop the haters.

 
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Old 07-20-2003, 12:38 AM   #35
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1. Magnolia at the very least is a 3 hour acting lesson. Personally, I think it is great.

2. The Oscars are not completely meaningless. They don't always go to the right people, of course, but it's mostly opinion. Very seldom does an Oscar go to something is flat-out bad, on technical grounds.

3. Armageddon sucks big fat donkey dick, and that is a disservice to the poor donkey.

 
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2. The Oscars are not completely meaningless. They don't always go to the right people, of course, but it's mostly opinion. Very seldom does an Oscar go to something is flat-out bad, on technical grounds.
Just because soemtimes a more 'deserving' movie wins an oscar doesn't mean it's more worthy of having a circle jerk around it on television. It's self important, masturbatory bullshit wether a good or bad movie wins an oscar. Everyone wants to get recognition, and recognition is nice and fun, and acceptance from your peers has got to be a good feeling, but they've all got cell phones or satellite phones or whatever fancy shit - they can call each other on their own fucking time and beat off in privacy, instead of adding more shallow, self congratulatory shit to an already overflowing heap of shit we all already live in.

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Just because soemtimes a more 'deserving' movie wins an oscar doesn't mean it's more worthy of having a circle jerk around it on television. It's self important, masturbatory bullshit wether a good or bad movie wins an oscar. Everyone wants to get recognition, and recognition is nice and fun, and acceptance from your peers has got to be a good feeling, but they've all got cell phones or satellite phones or whatever fancy shit - they can call each other on their own fucking time and beat off in privacy, instead of adding more shallow, self congratulatory shit to an already overflowing heap of shit we all already live in.
Many, many other industries have self-congratulatory award ceremonies or other such vehicles for the purpose. The Oscars just happen to be more public, but that still doesn't mean anyone is under any obligation to watch them. The ceremony isn't meaningless to the people there or for the people who yearn to one day be there. I am one of those people, so I'm will just have to peacefully disagree with you. I don't always agree with the Oscars, but I do always enjoy them because I love film, I love acting, and it's my dream to win one.

 
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Many, many other industries have self-congratulatory award ceremonies or other such vehicles for the purpose. The Oscars just happen to be more public, but that still doesn't mean anyone is under any obligation to watch them. The ceremony isn't meaningless to the people there or for the people who yearn to one day be there. I am one of those people, so I'm will just have to peacefully disagree with you. I don't always agree with the Oscars, but I do always enjoy them because I love film, I love acting, and it's my dream to win one.
and all these other award ceremonies are just as useless. if they mean something to you: congratulations! i don't agree with you. if having an oscar is important to you! congratulations! i hope you win one, so all the people who hold the oscars in high esteem love you more for winning one. the oscars have little to do with the love of film. the oscars have little to do with the love of acting. there was a time when it may have. it has alot to do with egos, posturting, and hundreds of thousands of gallons of cum.

 
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and all these other award ceremonies are just as useless. if they mean something to you: congratulations! i don't agree with you. if having an oscar is important to you! congratulations! i hope you win one, so all the people who hold the oscars in high esteem love you more for winning one. the oscars have little to do with the love of film. the oscars have little to do with the love of acting. there was a time when it may have. it has alot to do with egos, posturting, and hundreds of thousands of gallons of cum.
It means different things to different people, and that is fine. I don't want to be 'loved more' for winning one. It's one of the highest achievements in my chosen profession. My sister is going to be anthropologist and she wants to find the missing links. Not for the glory, but because to her that is highest achievement she can reach as an anthropologist. It's the same thing for me, and yes, I do know people will take it less seriously. I guess what makes me different from you and other haters of the Oscars etc., is that I honestly don't see anything wrong with congratulating and awarding people for a job well done, despite what the job is. Maybe the gist behind your hatred of this is that you don't see acting as a real work.

 
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Having not seen Magnolia or Mission to Mars, I would pick Battlefield Earth from that list, primarily because John Travolta has only been in two good movies in his farce of an acting career: One is Pulp Fiction, and the other isn't.

My two least favorite movies of all time, however, are Moulin Rouge and The Fifth Element. One's a hyperactive fashion show pretending to be a movie that only either the most pretentious or most drugged-out enjoyed, and the other is a giant clusterfuck of sci-fi nonsense.

 
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John Travolta has only been in two good movies in his farce of an acting career: One is Pulp Fiction, and the other isn't.
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It means different things to different people, and that is fine. I don't want to be 'loved more' for winning one. It's one of the highest achievements in my chosen profession. My sister is going to be anthropologist and she wants to find the missing links. Not for the glory, but because to her that is highest achievement she can reach as an anthropologist. It's the same thing for me, and yes, I do know people will take it less seriously. I guess what makes me different from you and other haters of the Oscars etc., is that I honestly don't see anything wrong with congratulating and awarding people for a job well done, despite what the job is. Maybe the gist behind your hatred of this is that you don't see acting as a real work.
well if you want to get into a contest of who loves film more, or who loves acting more, it's just going to be a pissing contest, and has nothing to do with my hatred of the oscars, the grammies, the emmies, the blockbuster awards, the vibe awards, trl, etc. i'll let your insightful (pulled out of your ass) theories slide, because you're not aware how close my, and my peers worlds are to this profession you claim to love so much more than me. i don't hate actors. i hate people like you who think that winning awards is tough buisness and that getting recognized means you obviously must deserve it. you're making a film. you're making art. you're not finding the missing link or curing cancer. if you take yourself that seriously, you're one of the people i hate. thanks for standing up and pointing yourself out.

what would happen to the film world if we didn't have award ceremonies? you wouldn't have the chance to see tom hanks get cummed on: sponsored by pepsi. these "achievements" you're implying you might be able to make by winning an all expense paid trip down a red carpet are not acheivments. if you, or your audience are not capable of appreciating a film on it's merits of being a good film without getting a big blue ribbon put on you in front of a bunch of A-list names then you should have a brick thrown in your face. does the lord of the rings need to win an oscar for it to be a better film? fuck no. does forrest gump winning an oscar make it a better film? no, it doesn't. if winning a popularity contest is an acheivment to you, i think you're a fucking tool.

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My sister is going to be anthropologist and she wants to find the missing links. Not for the glory, but because to her that is highest achievement she can reach as an anthropologist. It's the same thing for me.
are you aware of what you're saying?

back on topic, if you were paying attention, magnolia being an oscar contender makes it no better of a movie than forrest gump, the pianist, or debbie does dallas. WHO FUCKING CARES. IT DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING. the fact that you clowns bring this up as if it's supposed to send a hush to our blaspheming mouths really sticks in my craw.

 
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well if you want to get into a contest of who loves film more, or who loves acting more, it's just going to be a pissing contest, and has nothing to do with my hatred of the oscars, the grammies, the emmies, the blockbuster awards, the vibe awards, trl, etc. i'll let your insightful (pulled out of your ass) theories slide, because you're not aware how close my, and my peers worlds are to this profession you claim to love so much more than me. i don't hate actors. i hate people like you who think that winning awards is tough buisness and that getting recognized means you obviously must deserve it. you're making a film. you're making art. you're not finding the missing link or curing cancer. if you take yourself that seriously, you're one of the people i hate. thanks for standing up and pointing yourself out.

what would happen to the film world if we didn't have award ceremonies? you wouldn't have the chance to see tom hanks get cummed on: sponsored by pepsi. these "achievements" you're implying you might be able to make by winning an all expense paid trip down a red carpet are not acheivments. if you, or your audience are not capable of appreciating a film on it's merits of being a good film without getting a big blue ribbon put on you in front of a bunch of A-list names then you should have a brick thrown in your face. does the lord of the rings need to win an oscar for it to be a better film? fuck no. does forrest gump winning an oscar make it a better film? no, it doesn't. if winning a popularity contest is an acheivment to you, i think you're a fucking tool.

i just want to quote this part again, because it really makes my head hurt:



are you aware of what you're saying?

back on topic, if you were paying attention, magnolia being an oscar contender makes it no better of a movie than forrest gump, the pianist, or debbie does dallas. WHO FUCKING CARES. IT DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING. the fact that you clowns bring this up as if it's supposed to send a hush to our blaspheming mouths really sticks in my craw.
I'm honestly not trying to get into any kind of contest with you. I don't think I like film or acting any more than you. I was trying to present my side of the argument respectful and polite manner. I wasn't trying to be insightful, I was being honest. And no, I don't know where you work.

I don't think winning awards is tough business. I think it's not wrong. I think that it's perfectly acceptable for any industry to hold an awards ceremony, televised or untelevised.

I know acting isn't nearly as important as praticing medicine, enforcing law, teaching, or researching. But it is the only thing that makes me happy. All I was saying that I want to do the best I can as an actress, just as any other person in any other field wants to do the best they can. I have personal reasons for this. It means something to me. Not glitz and glamour and money and pictures. But to think a group of people actually thought I was on the same level as Katharine Hepburn or Bette Davis. It's okay if they don't. I never will. But I'd love to achieve what they did.

I don't live and breathe by the Oscars. I know a good film when I see it. It doesn't have to be nominated for anything for me to know it was a good film. Good films aren't nominated for Oscars all the time. My initial point was that piss poor films rarely ARE nominated. That's all. And just as I don't know what you know, you don't know all that I know about film and film history. I made a mistake of being very honest with you instead of crafting each sentence to make sure there was no way you could take me the wrong way.

 
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I'm honestly not trying to get into any kind of contest with you. I don't think I like film or acting any more than you. I was trying to present my side of the argument respectful and polite manner. I wasn't trying to be insightful, I was being honest. And no, I don't know where you work.

I don't think winning awards is tough business. I think it's not wrong. I think that it's perfectly acceptable for any industry to hold an awards ceremony, televised or untelevised.

I know acting isn't nearly as important as praticing medicine, enforcing law, teaching, or researching. But it is the only thing that makes me happy. All I was saying that I want to do the best I can as an actress, just as any other person in any other field wants to do the best they can. I have personal reasons for this. It means something to me. Not glitz and glamour and money and pictures. But to think a group of people actually thought I was on the same level as Katharine Hepburn or Bette Davis. It's okay if they don't. I never will. But I'd love to achieve what they did.

I don't live and breathe by the Oscars. I know a good film when I see it. It doesn't have to be nominated for anything for me to know it was a good film. Good films aren't nominated for Oscars all the time. My initial point was that piss poor films rarely ARE nominated. That's all. And just as I don't know what you know, you don't know all that I know about film and film history. I made a mistake of being very honest with you instead of crafting each sentence to make sure there was no way you could take me the wrong way.
i'm sorry, i'm a very angsty person. you're entitled to love the oscars. i just really hate award ceremonies and if i was king of this toilet bowl no one would ever win trophies.

 
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i'm sorry, i'm a very angsty person. you're entitled to love the oscars. i just really hate award ceremonies and if i was king of this toilet bowl no one would ever win trophies.
It's cool. I knew when I said the first thing someone was bound to disagree.

 
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First off, Battlefield Earth is not funny. Some movies are so awful that they can't be funny; they're depressing instead. Crossroads is like that. Kangaroo Jack is like that. Most Elvis films are like that. And so's Battlefield Earth.

As far as Magnolia goes, even if you let PTA's pretensions bother you--and I don't think Magnolia is nearly as pretentious as people think--it's still amazingly well-acted and has a great score. Any movie with the performances Moore, PSH, Macy and especially Cruise give can't possibly be worse than any of the other movies in that list.

Magnolia's one of my favorite movies. It's flawed, yeah, and it has its pretentions, but rarely does a filmmaker shoot for so much and achieve most of it. I'd rather see that than banal crap like Signs any day.

Battlefield Earth doesn't depress me at all. Its funny because there's just so many bad decisions on screen. And also, John Travola is dressed like fucking Gene Simons from Kiss crossbred with a Klingon. Its just so fucked up and wrong. The plot has every single bad cliche you could imagine. Its so horribily awry, and so much money was spent, its just great how ANYONE involved could have thought it would have been a good idea. Also any flick that has Travolta trying to feed somebody rats for dinner is A-OK in my book.

My problem with Magnolia is the self-indugent nature of the flick. This isn't only PTA's style (which has a tendency to linger over every single shot he does. Speed things up for the love of god.) but that indulgence extends to the acting in the flick. ITs like "Ok, here's Macy's big moment . . . and now here's Tom Cruise crying . .. and then the one kid pees his pants", etc. etc. Its as if everyone in that flick is begging of an oscar nomination and it just seems so pre-fab to me. Its like the flick is slamming you across the head "THIS IS GREAT FILMMAKING" and it just wears you down and in the end, pisses you off. When everyone is in the cars singing "Its not going to stop" you really think they're talking about the movie and its like you're stuck in a fucking time warp.

Its also a huge letdown after the coolness of Boogie Nights. That flick had pacing, style, coolness and lots of tittie. Magnolia crawls by comparison. There are exactly two cool moments in the flick: #1 "RESPECT THE COCK, TAME THE CUNT!!" and #2 the rain of frogs. That kept me interested. The rest bored me silly. I'm watching a movie, you're supposed to entertain me not jack off infront of me.

 
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So for the record:

FUCK PAUL THOMAS ANDERSON. The only movie he's done that I have actually liked was Hard Eight or "Sydney" or whatever the hell he decides to name it this week.

I don't care if you guys like him, and I don't care if people act well in his movies. He got a great performance out of Adam Sandler in Punch Drunk Love but.... SO WHAT? I still hated that movie. I can forgive people for liking Boogie Nights because I guess seeing people being morons is somewhat funny. Let's all be honest though, Mr. Anderson is a fucking snob. Fuck him and fuck his movies and fuck people who think he's great. It's just an opinion. It doesn't mean anything that I don't like him. Who cares right?

Oh yeah, I hate the Academy Awards too. No big deal. Hollywood has all of these stupid awards shows and the Academy Awards is the grandaddy of them all. I don't care if you like them, I still hate them and every other awards show ever, ever, ever. Hollywood does an extensive amount of patting themselves on the back as if they cure cancer every year. They are so full of shit. It's like they're trying to pretend that it's not all about the profits. Fuck that and fuck all awards shows.

One last thing, I forgot to list a movie I really hate, and that's Titanic. I saw that movie because my ex-girlfriend wanted me to see it... I ended up pissing her off by laughing through ending where all those motherfuckers die. Goddamn that movie is an annoying waste of time.

 
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One last thing, I forgot to list a movie I really hate, and that's Titanic. I saw that movie because my ex-girlfriend wanted me to see it... I ended up pissing her off by laughing through ending where all those motherfuckers die. Goddamn that movie is an annoying waste of time.
The ending is pretty choice. Lots of destruction and boats snapping in half and people drowing and guys commiting suicide. and that dude fucking smacks himself against the propeller as he falls on the way down is the best part of the whole flick.

 
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how the hell did you get roped into watching that piece of shit?

 
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how the hell did you get roped into watching that piece of shit?
my then-friend clarrie really wanted to see it, so jenna and i went with her... she fucking CRIED during it, and we were going to cry from it being so fucking horrible.. serves me right, i now hate the bitch and want that 2 hours of my life back.

 
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