is ace ventura the least woke movie of all time?

[slunken]

Ace pulls the pants off a trans woman in front of 40 of her co-workers, points at her penis, and they all start barfing.

[slunken]

[Trotskilicious]

i think "woke" is about race but i deliberately don't use it

[slunken]

let's not mince words.

the conceit here is hilarious.

[Trotskilicious]

if you say so

[slunken]

I don't mean the plot of the scene, i mean re-examining it in 2017.

It's hilarious to me how inappropriate it is now vs 20+ years ago.

I'm not on trial here. Crucify Jim Carrey.

[reprise85]

yeah i haven't thought about it in a while but it's pretty fucked up

i don't think i've seen it since i was a little kid... i saw the second one in a psych hospital in 2010 and thought it was pretty funny. but i don't remember any homophobic/anti-trans/etc stuff in there

[Trotskilicious]

that because nobody cared about making fun of them back then, it was just a joke

[reprise85]

i remember the scene where the villain is exposed (literally) and thinking that somehow her penis was moved to her butt (instead of it being tucked) because that's what happened during sex reassignment surgery in case they wanted to go back to having a penis? or something. i think i asked my mom or dad at the time and somehow came up with this after they told me what it was. i was definitely confused

[Trotskilicious]

based on real events

[slunken]

I was just trying to think of the most popular trans-phobic things in popular media and realized the entire movie was written around it

[slunken]

I loved this movie growing up. Now it just seems awkward and weird.

[Trotskilicious]

the crying game is also transphobic isn't it?

[slunken]

i never actually watched it - just know it was referenced via the song that played when jim carey was crying in the shower because he kissed a transgender person

[Trotskilicious]

i didn't see crying game either but i think its basically about straight guy falls for person he thinks is wonderful woman, finds out is still a guy or was a guy idk, then agony occurs

i suppose the point is more about how foolish the protag is for being in agony instead of in love no matter the gender

[fuzzyroes]

I think someone being trans-gender would be a deal breaker for the majority of straight people.

[slunken]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

i didn't see crying game either but i think its basically about straight guy falls for person he thinks is wonderful woman, finds out is still a guy or was a guy idk, then agony occurs

i suppose the point is more about how foolish the protag is for being in agony instead of in love no matter the gender

right. it's supposed to be a plot twist to make the audience re-consider the meaning of love or some such

[slunken]

certainly not as outright as "SHE'S A MAN!!" and everyone in the room promptly begins throwing up

[TuralyonW3]

deal breaker does not equal violent histrionic reactions

[Run To Me]

Originally Posted by reprise85

i remember the scene where the villain is exposed (literally) and thinking that somehow her penis was moved to her butt (instead of it being tucked) because that's what happened during sex reassignment surgery in case they wanted to go back to having a penis? or something. i think i asked my mom or dad at the time and somehow came up with this after they told me what it was. i was definitely confused

Weird, I have nearly an identical memory: confusion followed by a notion that the peen surgically moved to butt b/c thats just how they always do it, u gotta just have that nub back there forever

does a lady blow him before the credits for saving a dog that licks her boobs? Or was that the sequel. Member bein blown away by that level naughtiness (i was sheltered re movies etc)

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by slunken

right. it's supposed to be a plot twist to make the audience re-consider the meaning of love or some such

much like mac's transgender pre-op girlfriend story arc

[slunken]

how awesome would it be to fall in love?

[Trotskilicious]

its pretty upsetting

[wHATcOLOR]

didn't age particularly well, did it

[LaBelle]

Most things made in the 90s haven't.

[buzzard]

That's no way to speak of Disco King and Elphenor.

[LaBelle]

I was made in the 90s too. I would know.

[buzzard]

Oh, I thought you were made towards the later stages of 1989.

[LaBelle]

That depends on what act we consider the making of someone if it's conception or birth.

[buzzard]

Is birth an act?

The philosophical possibilities are endless.