Alien: Covenant is The Force Awakens of the Alien movie series

LaBelle · 12-26-2016, 10:07 PM

Are they pretending Prometheus didn't exist?
I was looking forward to Fassbender being only a head in the next film

MyOneAndOnly · 12-26-2016, 10:13 PM

It appears that Fassbender's character is another version of his robot character from Prometheus. And the trailer makes the new movie out like a rehash of the original film.

LaBelle · 12-26-2016, 10:23 PM

Yeah idk. That trailer didn't do anything for me.

Run To Me · 12-27-2016, 05:21 PM

Alien is a top 10 movie for me. Ever since I was a little kid I've found the alien creature to be the scariest of monsters. But it's been so badly disrespected in the relentless cash-ins/rush-jobs since the 1st two films.

IMO alien: isolation is the only media to have gotten it right since like 1986. Not gonna get my hopes up for this one

teh b0lly!!1 · 12-27-2016, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Run To Me

Alien is a top 10 movie for me. Ever since I was a little kid I've found the alien creature to be the scariest of monsters. But it's been so badly disrespected in the relentless cash-ins/rush-jobs since the 1st two films.

IMO alien: isolation is the only media to have gotten it right since like 1986. Not gonna get my hopes up for this one

totally agree. the first one from 1979 is up high in my all time greats list.

also, i had no idea about Alien: Isolation. checked it out and it seems like a pretty good play. it's a shame my laptop will probably melt trying to run it.

teh b0lly!!1 · 12-27-2016, 10:21 PM

also fucking Susanne Sundfor on that soundtrack to the trailer, noice.

not a bad trailer. i'll probably be happy to watch this film, even if not expecting much from it. from what i remember Prometheus was, although a somewhat weak rehash of former film concepts, ambitious and beautiful to look at.

LaBelle · 12-28-2016, 07:25 AM

Agreed with the Alien/Aliens love. Ripley is a great role model in those movies (even moreso in Aliens than Alien)

LaBelle · 12-28-2016, 07:26 AM

Everything about that trailer seemed like a retread tho. Also apparently James Franco is in the movie, they are holding back the Franco

FlamingGlobes · 12-28-2016, 07:44 PM

Yeah, no. This is just a re-dressed Prometheus sequel. They're just calling it Alien because nobody liked Prometheus.

As far as I'm concerned, the series began with Alien and ended with Aliens. A perfect and complementary set of films.

MyOneAndOnly · 12-28-2016, 08:25 PM

i thought Alien Resurrection was underrated.

teh b0lly!!1 · 12-28-2016, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamingGlobes

Yeah, no. This is just a re-dressed Prometheus sequel. They're just calling it Alien because nobody liked Prometheus.

As far as I'm concerned, the series began with Alien and ended with Aliens. A perfect and complementary set of films.

imho Alien was always the only one

the rest is just money textured fodder

LaBelle · 12-29-2016, 09:13 AM

Second one is soooo good tho!

teh b0lly!!1 · 12-29-2016, 09:21 AM

i always thought Aliens was like a 90's action hit offshoot film using the Alien franchise and characters. maybe it's a right place/right time kinda thing but i can't say it's highly revered in my book tbh

LaBelle · 12-29-2016, 09:25 AM

It most definitely is, but as good as Alien is I think Cameron was smart to keep the film as different as possible from the first. Also I love how they develop the Ripley character and you end up getting a female badass who also has a maternal aspect to her and finds some resolution to help her cope with the PTSD.

I can see how that may not be someone's cup of tea but to me it's a hell of a movie.

Also not sure about time and place thing as I only seen it in the early 00s long after the fact.

FlamingGlobes · 12-29-2016, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

i thought Alien Resurrection was underrated.

I think Resurrection is an entertaining b-movie diversion. It has a whole host of problems but is fun in a turn-your-brain-off sorta way. I mean, any movie that features Ron Pearlman and Brad Dourif is ok by me. Having said that, it ain't got shit on the first two films.

FlamingGlobes · 12-29-2016, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LaBelle

It most definitely is, but as good as Alien is I think Cameron was smart to keep the film as different as possible from the first. Also I love how they develop the Ripley character and you end up getting a female badass who also has a maternal aspect to her and finds some resolution to help her cope with the PTSD.

I can see how that may not be someone's cup of tea but to me it's a hell of a movie.

Also not sure about time and place thing as I only seen it in the early 00s long after the fact.

This. Aliens works so well because it's so different. Both films are perfection as far as I'm concerned and great for completely different reasons. You just can't go into Aliens expecting the same experience as Alien.

FlamingGlobes · 12-29-2016, 09:36 PM

Also, can I just say that I find Michael Fassbender dull as dish-water? I mean, what the actual fuck. Why is Hollywood pushing this guy so hard? Sure, he's good looking enough, but he's just a big ol' hunk of nothing.

LaBelle · 12-29-2016, 10:53 PM

Have you seen Shame? He's pretty great in that imho

teh b0lly!!1 · 12-29-2016, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamingGlobes

Also, can I just say that I find Michael Fassbender dull as dish-water? I mean, what the actual fuck. Why is Hollywood pushing this guy so hard? Sure, he's good looking enough, but he's just a big ol' hunk of nothing.

i agree with this so hard tears are coming down from my eyes right now

LaBelle · 12-29-2016, 11:07 PM

You guys just secretly want to get fassbent, admit it!

reprise85 · 12-29-2016, 11:22 PM

fender bass

all i can ever see his last name as is fenderbass

FlamingGlobes · 12-29-2016, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaBelle

You guys just secretly want to get fassbent, admit it!

Dammit, you figured me out!

FlamingGlobes · 12-29-2016, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LaBelle

Have you seen Shame? He's pretty great in that imho

I have not. He was okay in Eden Lake as I recall. Ever see that one?

I dunno. I'm sure he's an alright guy, he just strikes me as bland. He's human oatmeal.

teh b0lly!!1 · 12-29-2016, 11:46 PM

tbh there are plenty of hollywood guys like that these days.

joseph gordon levitt, ryan gosling (yeah yeah the dude's hot as shit - but he literally has ZERO acting ability or even charisma, he's just hot), jesse eisenberg, etc

Run To Me · 12-30-2016, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by reprise85

fender bass

all i can ever see his last name as is fenderbass

lol me 2

Shadaloo · 12-30-2016, 06:35 PM

Fassbender's two androids in this one IIRC.

Hey look! This time they come out of the back! How novel.

It just looks like Alien all over again but probably with the same kind of dipshit non-cast Prometheus had.

Alien and Aliens are two of my fave films, and I'm generous enough to be an A3 Assembly cut apologist, But this looks like it's gonna be a big ol' steaming pile of dung to my eyes.

FlamingGlobes · 12-30-2016, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadaloo

Fassbender's two androids in this one IIRC.

Hey look! This time they come out of the back! How novel.

It just looks like Alien all over again but probably with the same kind of dipshit non-cast Prometheus had.

Alien and Aliens are two of my fave films, and I'm generous enough to be an A3 Assembly cut apologist, But this looks like it's gonna be a big ol' steaming pile of dung to my eyes.

Yeah, pretty much.

LaBelle · 12-31-2016, 09:52 AM

Alien 3 is just boring to me.
I can at least appreciate that Alien Resurrection went full dumb and how committed they were to it. Still not a good movie tho.

I remember liking Winona in it tho <3

Run To Me · 12-31-2016, 05:08 PM

Alien 3 assembly cut is great, and sooooooo much better than theatrical. There's a good 45 minutes of critical plot and characterization that totally changes the impact of the 3rd act

Plus there's a whole sequence that's like a fire show ballet of slow motion prisoners going all cirque de soleil in the middle, when they blow themselves up on accident

Highly highly recommended to any alien geek

12-26-2016, 10:05 PM	#1
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12-26-2016, 10:07 PM	#2
LaBelle Socialphobic Location: Away Posts: 11,058	Are they pretending Prometheus didn't exist? I was looking forward to Fassbender being only a head in the next film

12-26-2016, 10:13 PM	#3
MyOneAndOnly Shut the fuck up! Location: "Okay, white power feminist" - yo soy el mejor Posts: 21,952	It appears that Fassbender's character is another version of his robot character from Prometheus. And the trailer makes the new movie out like a rehash of the original film.

12-26-2016, 10:23 PM	#4
LaBelle Socialphobic Location: Away Posts: 11,058	Yeah idk. That trailer didn't do anything for me.

12-27-2016, 05:21 PM	#5
Run To Me Minion of Satan Location: Where the frog spoils the leaf Posts: 5,992	Alien is a top 10 movie for me. Ever since I was a little kid I've found the alien creature to be the scariest of monsters. But it's been so badly disrespected in the relentless cash-ins/rush-jobs since the 1st two films. IMO alien: isolation is the only media to have gotten it right since like 1986. Not gonna get my hopes up for this one

12-27-2016, 10:21 PM	#7
teh b0lly!!1 Braindead Location: PROWLING THE BADLANDS Posts: 16,215	also fucking Susanne Sundfor on that soundtrack to the trailer, noice. not a bad trailer. i'll probably be happy to watch this film, even if not expecting much from it. from what i remember Prometheus was, although a somewhat weak rehash of former film concepts, ambitious and beautiful to look at.

12-28-2016, 07:25 AM	#8
LaBelle Socialphobic Location: Away Posts: 11,058	Agreed with the Alien/Aliens love. Ripley is a great role model in those movies (even moreso in Aliens than Alien)

12-28-2016, 07:26 AM	#9
LaBelle Socialphobic Location: Away Posts: 11,058	Everything about that trailer seemed like a retread tho. Also apparently James Franco is in the movie, they are holding back the Franco

12-28-2016, 07:44 PM	#10
FlamingGlobes Socialphobic Location: I’ve been trying to move to the Nordic countries for 5 years but the cost is astronomical to become an expatriate Posts: 14,177	Yeah, no. This is just a re-dressed Prometheus sequel. They're just calling it Alien because nobody liked Prometheus. As far as I'm concerned, the series began with Alien and ended with Aliens. A perfect and complementary set of films.

12-28-2016, 08:25 PM	#11
MyOneAndOnly Shut the fuck up! Location: "Okay, white power feminist" - yo soy el mejor Posts: 21,952	i thought Alien Resurrection was underrated.

12-29-2016, 09:13 AM	#13
LaBelle Socialphobic Location: Away Posts: 11,058	Second one is soooo good tho!

12-29-2016, 09:21 AM	#14
teh b0lly!!1 Braindead Location: PROWLING THE BADLANDS Posts: 16,215	i always thought Aliens was like a 90's action hit offshoot film using the Alien franchise and characters. maybe it's a right place/right time kinda thing but i can't say it's highly revered in my book tbh

12-29-2016, 09:25 AM	#15
LaBelle Socialphobic Location: Away Posts: 11,058	It most definitely is, but as good as Alien is I think Cameron was smart to keep the film as different as possible from the first. Also I love how they develop the Ripley character and you end up getting a female badass who also has a maternal aspect to her and finds some resolution to help her cope with the PTSD. I can see how that may not be someone's cup of tea but to me it's a hell of a movie. Also not sure about time and place thing as I only seen it in the early 00s long after the fact.

12-29-2016, 09:36 PM	#18
FlamingGlobes Socialphobic Location: I’ve been trying to move to the Nordic countries for 5 years but the cost is astronomical to become an expatriate Posts: 14,177	Also, can I just say that I find Michael Fassbender dull as dish-water? I mean, what the actual fuck. Why is Hollywood pushing this guy so hard? Sure, he's good looking enough, but he's just a big ol' hunk of nothing.

12-29-2016, 10:53 PM	#19
LaBelle Socialphobic Location: Away Posts: 11,058	Have you seen Shame? He's pretty great in that imho

12-29-2016, 11:07 PM	#21
LaBelle Socialphobic Location: Away Posts: 11,058	You guys just secretly want to get fassbent, admit it!

12-29-2016, 11:22 PM	#22
reprise85 BOTTLEG ILLEGAL Location: I'm faced with so many changes that I just might change my face Posts: 31,891	fender bass all i can ever see his last name as is fenderbass

12-29-2016, 11:46 PM	#25
teh b0lly!!1 Braindead Location: PROWLING THE BADLANDS Posts: 16,215	tbh there are plenty of hollywood guys like that these days. joseph gordon levitt, ryan gosling (yeah yeah the dude's hot as shit - but he literally has ZERO acting ability or even charisma, he's just hot), jesse eisenberg, etc

12-30-2016, 06:35 PM	#27
Shadaloo Apocalyptic Poster Location: up on the cross you go little fella Posts: 2,243	Fassbender's two androids in this one IIRC. Hey look! This time they come out of the back! How novel. It just looks like Alien all over again but probably with the same kind of dipshit non-cast Prometheus had. Alien and Aliens are two of my fave films, and I'm generous enough to be an A3 Assembly cut apologist, But this looks like it's gonna be a big ol' steaming pile of dung to my eyes.

12-31-2016, 09:52 AM	#29
LaBelle Socialphobic Location: Away Posts: 11,058	Alien 3 is just boring to me. I can at least appreciate that Alien Resurrection went full dumb and how committed they were to it. Still not a good movie tho. I remember liking Winona in it tho <3

12-31-2016, 05:08 PM	#30
Run To Me Minion of Satan Location: Where the frog spoils the leaf Posts: 5,992	Alien 3 assembly cut is great, and sooooooo much better than theatrical. There's a good 45 minutes of critical plot and characterization that totally changes the impact of the 3rd act Plus there's a whole sequence that's like a fire show ballet of slow motion prisoners going all cirque de soleil in the middle, when they blow themselves up on accident Highly highly recommended to any alien geek