ha ha ha the liberals are in nuclear meltdown

[reprise85]

guys Donald Trump is going to be the next President lol

[iB0lly]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

when i come in here i expect your shit, emma. But my FB feed isn't where I want to deal with netpho style trolling.

Why dont you let your mom change your diaper, then let your wife change your tampon. Fucking crybaby. Tell me what street youre protesting at next. You have no idea how bad I want to run you over with my truck.

[ohnoitsbonnie]

Having a truck is lame

[myosis]

yeah calm down guy

[ohnoitsbonnie]

O u r protesting? Let me run u over

[ohnoitsbonnie]

Protesting online? Let me say I wuld run u over

[redbreegull]

A church with services in Spanish in my neighborhood was vandalized and graffitied with "Trump Nation Whites Only"

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Mals Marola

wasn't the point of the electoral college to prevent a guy like Donald Trump from getting elected in the first place?

actually it was to protect slavery

[Disco King]

Guys, what do we do about the Paris Agreement?

The world agreeing to these climate targets is pretty much contingent on the biggest polluters, China and the U.S., upholding their part. If they don't, the developing world will go, "why should we handicap our developing economies by not exploiting resources when those guys got to become developed economies by doing so before we recognize that it was destroying the environment?"

Trump's stance on environmental issues is probably the biggest worldwide threat I can think of. The possible wars are unknowns (he has some isolationist rhetoric, but also talks about bombing the shit out of places and taking their oil, is aggressive with Iran after Obama just started to fix shit with them, and is appointing the worst neocon hawks, like John Bolton and Michael Flynn), but on the environment, we know that he wants to exit the Paris Agreement, that he thinks climate change is a "Chinese conspiracy," that he wants to gut the Clean Air and Clean Water acts, that he wants to remove fuel-economy regulations... the world is fucked.

Can the world just, like, band together and place sanctions on the U.S. if they exit the agreement or something, fuck. It feels like we were just starting to make some progress on climate initiatives.

[Disco King]

re: Electoral College

It should be abolished, because it doesn't even do what people think it's supposed to do (balance large urban areas with rural areas). With a popular vote, it would be mathematically impossible for a candidate to win the White House by campaigning in just the largest cities, even though that's what the defenders of the institution keep saying. As it is right now, eleven states could decide the election.

About faithless electors, it won't happen, and even if it could, I don't think I would want it to. As much as I'll hate a Trump presidency, it would just seem like "cheating" to have electors act faithlessly. There's nothing legally wrong with it, as if one defends the institution of the Electoral College and the concept of electors voting instead of a direct election by the people, one defends that this institution isn't binding on the electors, and it would be cherrypicking to be like "We should have the electoral college because Constitution and shit... except that other Constitutional part of it, I don't like that part."

But even though it would technically be fair under the rules, it just doesn't seem right, and it would give the left less to stand on when finally trying to abolish the Electoral College, because having had used it to their advantage might seem hypocritical.

I say, accept that this election is over, and go hard on activism and disobedience and direct action for now (I prefer peaceful demonstration without property damage, but I don't hold property to be sacred, so long as it's not small businesses' and non-rich, private individuals' property), and when midterm elections come, get out the vote and try to achieve a progressive sweep of Congress. And keep the activism going to hold the Democrats to account. Become a Tea Party of the Left. Hopefully it's a Left movement that pays attention to marginalized people without the whole safe-space-trigger-warning fluffy bullshit that is often used to shut down discourse and can actually be quite patronizing to the marginalized people they are supposed to protect. Hopefully this is an angrier, tougher brand of leftism, not some HuffPo Buzzfeed bullshit.

Also, smoke weed e'rrday.

[redbreegull]

I've been speaking with some people and we are going to get together this week and put our heads together about what kind of stuff we can do in this community right now to help targeted groups. Time to organize.

[Disco King]

Best case scenario:

Trump has no idea what he's doing and becomes overwhelmed by his new office and reaches out to former president Obama for some advice, because the two became such good bros during their talk. Trump is highly impressionable and his picking of Obama's brain effectively means another four years of Obama. Republicans are stunned and frustrated by his policy changes, being completely unaware about what has caused them.

At the end of his term, Trump shares a beer with Obama and is like, "haha dude, remember when I said you were from Kenya? Good times!" And he and Obama laugh. Freeze frame, end credits.

Next episode, Bernie Sanders wins in 2020 and initiates fully-automated luxury eco-harmonic space-democratic anarcho-communism and the human race expands into the stars.

I-it could still happen, right?

[Disco King]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

I've been speaking with some people and we are going to get together this week and put our heads together about what kind of stuff we can do in this community right now to help targeted groups. Time to organize.

I feel like I should be doing something, but I don't know what. I'm not American. All I can really do is complain on the internet. I don't want to sign any petitions and shit because I feel like that would delegitimize them (like, if people presented some petition on some issue to Congress, and they were like HAHA IT HAS NON-AMERICANS ON IT THAT MEANS IT'S REPRESENTING FOREIGN INTERESTS IMMA CONVICT YOU FOR UN-AMERICAN ACTIVITIES BOI)

The only thing I can really think of is making sure Canada doesn't fall into the same alt-right nationalist pseudo-fascist gutter the U.S. and parts of Europe are falling into. We currently have a Liberal prime minister who is actually still really popular a year after the election, but Obama is really popular, too, and that had no bearing on the wave Trump rode.

Maybe I'll focus my attention even more locally, on the provincial level. The NDP (party with social-democratic roots, but has drifted rightward into just a liberal party, though still to the left of the Liberal Party) is in power because people got sick of the Progressive Conservatives, who had rules for 40+ years, but the NDP's approval rating has already plummeted and I don't feel that they will win the next election. Since the PC Party is still in shambles, the party that will win is probably the Wildrose Party, even further right than the PC. And the guy trying to rebuild the PC is just as far right as the Wildrose, and the parties may merge (and if that happens, the NDP has no chance in hell). Maybe I should devote my efforts to trying to change minds about provincial politics so we don't get another shitty right-wing administration. Don't really know where to start, though.

[teh b0lly!!1]

Dear Disco,

Seeing as you're already authoring considerably text-hefty posts, would you mind doing one on your depression, various existential anxieties, or experiences with the fairer sex (preferably including in depth analysis of mundane events, followed by the thought patterns they subsequently conjured in you)? I much prefer reading those to politik speak.

Thankfully,
Your friend,
Some guy you never met and probably don't even like

[redbreegull]

[Disco King]

Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1

Dear Disco,

Seeing as you're already authoring considerably text-hefty posts, would you mind doing one on your depression, various existential anxieties, or experiences with the fairer sex (preferably including in depth analysis of mundane events, followed by the thought patterns they subsequently conjured in you)? I much prefer reading those to politik speak.

Thankfully,
Your friend,
Some guy you never met and probably don't even like

Okay, uh... I guess I've been kinda depressed and unmotivated recently and it's hard for me to make myself do shit. And also I keep thinking about how I will always be dissatisfied and unfulfilled because there are so many interests I have but I feel like there isn't enough time to do them all and I feel like modern life isn't suited for people who have a hodgepodge of different interests because the division of labour and specialization forces people into certain niches. But at the same time I feel like a failure who will never achieve anything important in even the few areas I do do shit in.

And also I have going out in public because I always feel ugly and have a weird body and I feel more self-conscious when I see attractive people, especially at school or something.

And also TRUMP IS PRESIDENT-ELECT HOW THE FUCK DID THIS HAPPEN

[teh b0lly!!1]

C-

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by Disco King

Okay, uh... I guess I've been kinda depressed and unmotivated recently and it's hard for me to make myself do shit. And also I keep thinking about how I will always be dissatisfied and unfulfilled because there are so many interests I have but I feel like there isn't enough time to do them all and I feel like modern life isn't suited for people who have a hodgepodge of different interests because the division of labour and specialization forces people into certain niches. But at the same time I feel like a failure who will never achieve anything important in even the few areas I do do shit in.

And also I have going out in public because I always feel ugly and have a weird body and I feel more self-conscious when I see attractive people, especially at school or something.

And also TRUMP IS PRESIDENT-ELECT HOW THE FUCK DID THIS HAPPEN

you said "do do"

[Disco King]

And the next word after that was "shit." I walked right into that one.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

I've been speaking with some people and we are going to get together this week and put our heads together about what kind of stuff we can do in this community right now to help targeted groups. Time to organize.

maybe you can give them soup.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

vegan gluten free bio halal soup

[vixnix]

with kombucha and fermented vegetable pickles

[Cool As Ice Cream]

fuck yeah awesome

maybe you can build some houses in palestine

community

[Cool As Ice Cream]

soup has been organised
fuck yeah
take that, trump AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA our community is helping their targeted minorities FUCK YOU

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream

vegan gluten free bio halal soup

[Elphenor]

the Steve Bannon appointment really sends it home this is worse than Poots running the nation this is 4chan alt right running the nation

We are not getting a different guy when he's sworn in 49 percent of the country chose fascism and that's what we're gonna get

[Starla]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

we gotta close them floodgates boys

what's that? net immigration is actually going backwards across the border? shhhhhh build the wall

Oh fuck off with that. NO where did I say I'm for a wall. I've been at Standing rock for a month. When you start seeing refugees or illegal immigrants locked in dog kennels, then come talk to me. I'll be out there fighting that. What are you doing? I've worked/volunteered with a refugee resettlement group for 18 months trying to help bring people in so they don't have to keep living in refugee camps. We recently got some Congolese families in... and some from Iraq. It's beautiful and that's what I fight for. I've learned a lot about the issues at the border. We need to secure it, we need to give everyone already here amnesty, then fast track families for unification in the U.S. NOW. No children should be without parents/guardians.

And I was Bernie or bust. Hillary didn't get in because she's a damn criminal.

[Starla]

Originally Posted by duovamp

That was just locker room talk. Guys are supposed to grab women by their genitals.

I've received worse pms on this board over the years.

[Starla]

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

I'm not completely sure of this, because unlike Hillary, who past is an open book that I've read for too long, Trump's back channel ties are something of a mystery.


There's some obvious ones to the old school New York mafia, also the NYPD is very loyal to him and always has been.

You can directly tie Hillary to Satan Soros threw a bunch of emails and the V.P. choice in Kaine wasn't her's; he's a proud Jesuit and was placed there by that bunch. Consider that the current Pope is the first Jesuit one in over 500 years, I'll let you guess who chose him and keep in mind all those wonderful things the Pope said about Trump.

Buzz is Trump is a Jesuit agent as well. A competing faction against the P2 Masonic group run out of the Vatican. He has scant ties to the Freemasons through his heritage in Scotland, but it doesn't seem that significant really.

His father was known as a nationalist who's been fighting globalist going back a century. Trump is rumoured to have been a part a secret club at Wharton during his college days and that this club has a strong allegiance to the constitution for spiritual purposes, not just economic.

Not to mention he either got tapped at least a decade ago or adopted by strong groups in all U.S. intelligence agencies as they coordinated with him to get over on the Bush Neo-Con cabal through Hillary.

I've been suspect of the Wharton college story, the secret club, but him winning puts it beyond plausible and into likely. No man is an island, he had to have A LOT of help to get him in and he most certainly did.

I'm sure Trump Sr has some nasty ties to something. But hillary is pure fucking evil. Anyone that would reroute money away from haiti and let those ppl live in tents for years is just evil. Haitians in this country hate her and protest the clintons all the time. Haven't had time to look at all of the wikileaks, but seen enough to know John Podesta is a child molesting mf. Trump has sexually abused women, maybe raped one (there's a case that's been brought up and dropped a few times) and other crap. Didn't reach out to Natives and ignored DAPL. We don't exist to him. At least Bernie is speaking out for us. No one listens tho. UN has been called to investigate human rights violations and the beat just goes on...

[duovamp]

Trump vowed to lessen US ties to the UN so hopefully we can just close our ears to the complaints entirely.

I guess you could approach the process of democracy with a complete refusal to compromise and see how that turns out. Probably works as well as refusing to compromise works anywhere in life, I imagine.