2016 Presidential General Election Thread

[ilikeplanets]

It shouldn't be hilarious but it's definitely hilarious. Hillary and trump are like Mr and Mrs potato head. Is there even a point to vote for the green party...I'm not sure

[redbreegull]

fuck Jill Stein

[redbreegull]

keep incense, gluten-free, and crystal balls OUT of the White House

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Poots

Wow, I thought we'd heard all of your excuses for never presenting research, but you've come up with a brand new one. Bravo my good man.

Regardless, the rats are leaving the ship over the Clinton Foundation thing. Even her own people are telling her to let it die. No one is trying to defend it now except for Hillary and Bill personally. And you I guess. And scotty I'm sure.

Charity Watch – Clinton Foundation

Politifact – Preibus' false claim about Clinton Foundation overhead

[ninsp]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

keep incense, gluten-free, and crystal balls OUT of the White House

you probably think she's anti-vax

[JESUSNEEDSAHIT]

if she is n ot anti vax she did a good job pandering to those people though

it's like saying obama was for gay marriage even when he said he wasnt because he has to say certainstuff to be elected duh

[JESUSNEEDSAHIT]

or fuzzyrow's logic that all the crazy shit donald drumpf says shouldnt be taken seriously because he has to say that to get elected

[ninsp]

Originally Posted by JESUSNEEDSAHIT

if she is n ot anti vax she did a good job pandering to those people though

it's like saying obama was for gay marriage even when he said he wasnt because he has to say certainstuff to be elected duh

I fail to understand how saying we need more oversight on big pharma means she's anti vax.

[Elphenor]

if I were to vote 3rd party it'd go to the straight up socialist party no messing around with the omega concern equivalent on the left

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by ninsp

I fail to understand how saying we need more oversight on big pharma means she's anti vax.

she's said a LOT more than that on many occasions. And she's pandered to a whole host of other left wing fringe groups. Anti GMO nutjobs for example.

[MyOneAndOnly]

Stein's comments on Vaccines are typical of the anti vax crowd.

Like any medication, they also should be — what shall we say? — approved by a regulatory board that people can trust. And I think right now, that is the problem. That people do not trust a Food and Drug Administration, or even the CDC for that matter, where corporate influence and the pharmaceutical industry has a lot of influence.

Vaccines in the USA are safe and they are strictly regulated by people that we can trust. By throwing shade on the public organizations that deal with vaccines in the US she's praticing political pandering to the nut jobs and freaks in the anti vax crowd. She's also doing damage to the organizations that are doing a good job regulating vaccines. She talks about vaccines by constantly using a false premise regarding those people and organziations that are involved.

She is lying. And she's feeding into anti vax hysteria that leads to deaths and sickness. She should be ashamed.

Another of her anti vax statemenst

There were concerns among physicians about what the vaccination schedule meant, the toxic substances like mercury which used to be rampant in vaccines. There were real questions that needed to be addressed. I think some of them at least have been addressed. I don’t know if all of them have been addressed.

this is bullshit. again a false premise. there is no controversy amongst physicians. there is virtual unanymous agreement at every level of medice that vaccines were and are safe.

Any Doctor who says shit like this isn't fit to practic medicine. And if she doesn't really believe it and she's pandering for votes than she's just as shitty as the politicians she wants to beat in the general election


there's a good blog post here that discusses this in more detail: http://www.skepticalraptor.com/skept...ves/#more-9195

[redbreegull]

I really just hate her personally, which is 85% of why all these people actually hate Clinton, so I don't see a problem.

[redbreegull]

sadly I think I would trust Gary Johnson to be a more effective administrator although Stein's policies are much closer to my own views obviously

[redbreegull]

but seriously I can't wait to find out who she would name envoy to give out free hugs to IS or who is going to be secretary of acupuncture

[MyOneAndOnly]

Stein supports a lot of other bullshit positions. Like her absurd comments on quantitative easing that show she is ignorant of a basic understanding of Economics and how the Fed works. Here's a recent Slate piece on that (among other things).

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...oking_for.html

Or how about the time when she had dinner with Putin at his 10yr anniversary party for Russia Today and made public statements to the media critizing US foreign policy! WTF? Was she doing a Trump inpersonation or was she so fucking naive that she though eating dinner with putin and celebrating his propaganda victories and bad mouthing her own country was a good idea?

here's a piece at America Blog discussing her ill-fated trip

http://americablog.com/2016/08/jill-...an-rights.html

and here is a column from earlier this month discussing how the Kremlin attacked the journalist who wrote that column

http://americablog.com/2016/08/kreml...scow-trip.html

[redbreegull]

I heard she's going to form a human chain and concentrate positive energy and thoughts on the US nuclear arsenal until it disarms itself

"you are enough. you are enough. you are enough."

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

Stein's comments on Vaccines are typical of the anti vax crowd.



Vaccines in the USA are safe and they are strictly regulated by people that we can trust.

She is lying. And she's feeding into anti vax hysteria that leads to deaths and sickness. She should be ashamed.

You should be ashamed, but you have no shame, so...n/m.

this is bullshit. again a false premise. there is no controversy amongst physicians. there is virtual unanymous agreement at every level of medice that vaccines were and are safe.

Any Doctor who says shit like this isn't fit to practice medicine.

Spoken like the true communist you are. Let's just ignore all the times government agencies have been caught lying, we can all trust the process with vaccines...BUT IF YOU ATTEMPT TO VERIFY that trust, you're not fit to be a Dr.

It is the epitome of Evil to present a poison pill as a cure and that's exactly what many vaccines are these days. You're not mentally fit to comment on this topic, but you sure rush to judge Doctor's who dare stray from the corporate pharmaceutical narrative.



Tennessee Medical Office Stops Vaccines Because ‘They Cause Autism’

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

sadly I think I would trust Gary Johnson to be a more effective administrator although Stein's policies are much closer to my own views obviously

johnson is a libtard ideologue. not nearly as bad as a lot of others, but bad enough. The problem with him and his Republican friends (he's really a republican) is that he'd rubber stamp just about everything a republican congress sent to him. privatize or do away with every single government service (education, social security, prisons, etc. etc.).

he's a Piece of Shit like every single other libertarian, conservative and republican. he would be Paul Ryan's puppet if he actually got into the White House. We have a guy like him in the Governors office here in Michigan who hasn't vetoed a single bill from the right wing legislature. It's lead to a dozen deaths and 50,000 people being poisoned in Flint, MI.

[MyOneAndOnly]

TOC, don't you work for the government? Do they know you have such severe mental problems?

[redbreegull]

let me guess he said something apologist about putin

[redbreegull]

I was sort of kidding about Gary Johnson. I would never vote for someone with his policies, I'm just riffing off of how this entire election has been about the candidates' personalities and not their policies whatsoever. And he comes across as a pretty regular, logical guy vs. Stein whose political persona is mystic leftist spirit of the great beyond

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

Stein supports a lot of other bullshit positions. Like her absurd comments on quantitative easing that show she is ignorant of a basic understanding of Economics and how the Fed works. Here's a recent Slate piece on that (among other things).

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...oking_for.html

O.K. now you've jumped the Shark. The FED is the bag man for the MIC and the MIC keeps FRN's as the de-facto world currency via the PetroDollar.


The rest of the world is fed up with process and are currently aligning en masse to establish new markets SANS the USD (our Federal Reserve Notes).


QE policies are blowing up in the FEDS face, but they can't admit to it, because it challenges their paradigm of printing money backed by nothing. So they have propaganda mouthpieces like SLATE state false findings to keep the facade going on dummies like yourself.

[redbreegull]

ninsp probably would vote for stein but he can't abide her proposal to station bathroom equality police outside all public restrooms

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

TOC, don't you work for the government? Do they know you have such severe mental problems?

We will no longer be administering Vaccines at Cool Springs Family Medicine (CSFM).

How come?

1. Because they can cause Autism – yes, I’ve had 15 years’ experience in taking care of ASD kids, that’s a lot of vaccine injury stories from moms. Don’t tell me that they are making it up or they are just reaching for an explanation, or that it was a coincidence or that they are just too stressed, or that they are uninformed. All of those arguments are stupid.

Don’t quote the single study by the CDC that shows that MMR is not linked to Autism. One of the authors of that paper, Dr. Thompson, said that the data was falsified and the study manipulated. So, with this information and the lack of studies that prove the safety of combined vaccines, I can do no harm, so I’m out.

2. Polysorbate 80, Aluminum, formaldehyde, animal DNA with viruses, and many other ingredients in vaccines, are not good to inject into babies. Think of cancer, and autoimmune disease.

3. Epigenetics is a new science that explains exactly why, not every child is going to react the same way to vaccines, and sacrificing the few, for the many is not acceptable. Actually, if you understand the science, which many mothers with vaccine injured children do, you can see that it is actually many are at risk and are asked to be sacrificed for the few.

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

I was sort of kidding about Gary Johnson. I would never vote for someone with his policies, I'm just riffing off of how this entire election has been about the candidates' personalities and not their policies whatsoever. And he comes across as a pretty regular, logical guy vs. Stein whose political persona is mystic leftist spirit of the great beyond

the media is playing up the personalities. but every time i listen to Hillary she's talking mostly about policy and issues.

[reprise85]

don't pretend you know jack shit about epigenetics, TOC. i have no idea what that point even means. are we sacrificing people who have bad reactions the first time they take penicillin as toddlers for the majority who take it to cure an infection?

you know what the big fucking correlation is between vaccines and autism? a THIRD variable: age. the fact that AUTISM becomes apparent in the 2-3rd years of life, which is when children are still getting many vaccines, and so both of these things seem to coincide. you might as well say toilet training and learning to walk causes autism.

how come no one "gets" autism when they get all of the later vaccinations?

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

the media is playing up the personalities. but every time i listen to Hillary she's talking mostly about policy and issues.

I hear Trump getting pragmatic on immigration, Anti-hawkish on foreign affairs in terms of nation building, bullish on re-instating Glass-Steagall to begin to reign in the very same bankers Hiliary is in bed with and serious about appointing a special prosecutor to get to the bottom of Hiliary's crimes.

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by reprise85

don't pretend you know jack shit about epigenetics, TOC. i have no idea what that point even means. are we sacrificing people who have bad reactions the first time they take penicillin as toddlers for the majority who take it to cure an infection?

you know what the big fucking correlation is between vaccines and autism? a THIRD variable: age. the fact that AUTISM becomes apparent in the 2-3rd years of life, which is when children are still getting many vaccines, and so both of these things seem to coincide. you might as well say toilet training and learning to walk causes autism.

how come no one "gets" autism when they get all of the later vaccinations?

MICROBIOLOGIST GARTH NICOLSON interview, President and Chief scientific officer of the Institute for Molecular Medicine, Huntington Beach, CA

[The Omega Concern]

Download The CDC Autism/MMR Files Released By Dr. William Thompson




For those who don't know what these files are about...

The CDC covered up a link between vaccines and autism, and it covered up that African American boys were WAY more likely to get autism from the MMR. Black lives don't matter to the CDC.

[reprise85]

I don't think questioning it is foolish. I think not looking at the evidence of many studies that show no links between autism and vaccines because it doesn't feel right in your heart is a very illogical, if understandable, human thing to do.

The drug companies and the entire healthcare system, which polices itself, is ripe for corruption, this is true. At the same time, if there was not all of this money to be made from healthcare services such as vaccines, their would be no resources going into scientific research for new and better medicines. And if their medicines don't work or, at the other end, kill people, they have no customers.

The idea that there is a conspiracy to poison children with autism is completely ridiculous. Is it possible that scientists do stupid things and shit like thalidomide makes it through accidentally? YES. But there is evidence of it happening, when it does. When there is no evidence that anything in vaccines is causing a statistically abnormal amount of side effects or interactions, what exactly could be done to make someone who doesn't want to believe it's true, believe it's true?

I can't imagine having a child with autism. I can't imagine seeing it coincide with him/her get vaccines, and not seeing it as a factor. But there are things that do increase chances of autism (like maternal age and family history) that are documented. Vaccines are not one of them.