2016 Presidential General Election Thread

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Poots

again, I'm not doing research for you. You've done this before, where you're like "Here's my opinion, I'm not going to back it up but you should look it up and you'll see." Most citing poster indeed.

is this that thing where conservatives take liberal attacks and flip them around and then think it's really clever?

I already got my degree in this bud, but btw I looked it up to confirm I was right before I opened my mouth. Why don't you try something new and expose yourself to new information? Or can you just not do it because you are too afraid of being humbled?

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by Poots

Are you saying that the Supreme Court interpreted the Constitution? That they looked beyond the letter of the law? They read between the lines to discover intent, or maybe, the "spirit" of the Constitution? Woah, heavy stuff.

With crazy shit like this, they might find a Constitutional right to abortion or even Obamacare. That would be like bizarro world.

I'm saying that "one person one vote" is something Warren believed ought to be the case, but it's not written or even implied in The Constitution considering that the bicamerial establishes a system that specifically is NOT one person one vote even after the amendments

[Elphenor]

Basically you can't call any sort of corruption or collusion unconstitutional

Just use the word "unfair"

[redbreegull]

pretty safe to say the concept of one person one vote was not in any way the intention of the Framers

[Elphenor]

I think the idea terrified them considering they were all wealthy men

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

Why can't you understand that there's no doubt she would have won anyway

Not without the rigging and the electronic voting manipulations, that's why.


100-Page Report Shows Staggering Evidence Of Election Fraud In Democratic Primary
July 29, 2016



While it’s unclear whether the super delegates would have voted for Sanders, the EJUSA report does make one thing clear: Bernie Sanders won the majority of pledged delegates in the Democratic Primary at 2030 to Hillary Clinton’s 2021.

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

pretty safe to say the concept of one person one vote was not in any way the intention of the Framers

Which has what to do when the country progressed and recognized an amendment was needed?


The DNC just ran roughshod over the whole idea of an honest election and all you guys can do is make excuses for it that don't exist except in your indoctrinated minds.

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

Basically you can't call any sort of corruption or collusion unconstitutional

Just use the word "unfair"

Collusion: An agreement between two or more people to defraud a person of his or her rights or to obtain something that is prohibited by law.


Prohibited by law. Collusion has nothing to do with the constitution.

But thanks for admitting the DNC and their Mockingbird whores in the media broke the law.

[redbreegull]

The guarantee clause which poots keeps referring back to is a completely political, ornamental, and non-justiciable collection of words which SCOTUS has interpreted as such. It's pretty much decorative trim on a legal document and not something which has ever been used as legal precedent. It carries about as much weight as citing the pledge of allegiance. Having said that, even if we did look at this clause as a sacred moral right, which I guess is what poots is trying to say, the concept of a "republic" is itself not legally defined and is as abstract as saying america is about "freedom."

But all of this is getting ahead of the fact that the Guarantee Clause is about the form of GOVERNMENT the states are allowed to have. The political parties are not branches of the government. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say "the United States shall guarantee to every citizen in this union a republican form of private institutions," it says the US will guarantee all STATE GOVERNMENTS are republics. The DNC charter has this airy fairy ra ra go america sentence in there, and it means literally nothing.



but ultimately none of this matters because the DNC's shenanigans were unnecessary... which makes it even stupid that they did it. Clinton won. She would have won regardless. It wasn't even close and there is no credible evidence Debbie Wassershultz Slutsman is hiding THREE MILLION VOTES

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

I'm saying that "one person one vote" is something Warren believed ought to be the case, but it's not written or even implied in The Constitution considering that the bicamerial establishes a system that specifically is NOT one person one vote even after the amendments

So this in your mind justifies the conflict of interest when 2 of the 3 companies that make voting machines have contributed to the Clinton foundation?

[Elphenor]

do you see the position of the OR in the definition you've provided and are you not aware that collusion is not always used to imply laws have been broken

If you google the word right now you'll see this

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

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but ultimately none of this matters because the DNC's shenanigans were unnecessary... which makes it even stupid that they did it. Clinton won. She would have won regardless. It wasn't even close and there is no credible evidence Debbie Wassershultz Slutsman is hiding THREE MILLION VOTES

I've just posted evidence that shows votes were stolen from Bernie and inflated towards Hillary.


But logic please HILLARYBOTS:

IF THE DNC's shenanigans were not necessary, THEN WHY DID THEY DO IT???

Answer: IT WAS NECESSARY. I've just posted the method to how they did it.

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

do you see the position of the OR in the definition you've provided and are you not aware that collusion is not always used to imply laws have been broken

If you google the word right now you'll see this

It is prohibited by law for the DNC to receive articles from media outlets in which the DNC gets to edit. That is collusion. Laws were broken, plenty of them in this fraud, that's just one.

[Elphenor]

Wow an organization formed just this year to investigate Bernie's loss Im sure that's not going to be biased or anything

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

Wow an organization formed just this year to investigate Bernie's loss Im sure that's not going to be biased or anything

wow he's posting totally illegitimate sources no. fucking. way.

I've always loved this line of logic: all sources which are considered legit are actually not legit because everything a source of authority gets behind is lying. Check out my sources, who no one credible at all gets behind. Oh, they look like they were coded in mom's basement in 95? No worries man, they are legit, trust me

it's like a belief that the less verifiable something's credibility is, the more likely it is to be true. I'm not sure if it would be torture to be this fucking insane or if it would be freeing.

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

Wow an organization formed just this year to investigate Bernie's loss Im sure that's not going to be biased or anything

And that has what to do with the evidence found?


But thanks for jumping the gun, too easy with you reactionary libs...you see, when you're arguing for a lie, the truth becomes a problem.

The ASA here is strictly a non-partisan statistical outfit that's been around for 175 years:


“The difference between the reported totals, and our best estimate of the actual vote, varies considerably from state to state. However these differences are significant—sometimes more than 10%—and could change the outcome of the election.” ~ Fritz Scheuren, professor of statistics at George Washington University, President of the American Statistical Association (ASA)

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

wow he's posting totally illegitimate sources no. fucking. way.

You see what I mean folks about reactionary libs? They don't even consider I had two sources and that I was sandbagging the ASA one because I knew they'd jump all over that first one.


Pulllayed by a playa. go fuck yourselves you criminal loving psychos.

[redbreegull]

is he saying something me


shut up, you

[buzzard]

There's no need to get upset, Mr. Concern. This is a friendly debate amongst friends, is it not?

[JESUSNEEDSAHIT]

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

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Pulllayed by a playa. go fuck yourselves you criminal loving psychos.

hye the government is evil. evil government. authority is bad and so are the laws. evil corrupt government laws. wait I spy an opportunity to get political digs in at someone who belives in multiculturalism. law and order! law and order!

[JESUSNEEDSAHIT]

we hold these truths to be self relevant

all men created sequel

[JESUSNEEDSAHIT]

i pledge allegiance to the fag for liberty and justice for lol

[JESUSNEEDSAHIT]

make america great again

[JESUSNEEDSAHIT]

god bless america spirit of america spirit of the times spirit of st. louis

[JESUSNEEDSAHIT]

D'IS AGAINST SPIRIT OF AMERICA LOCK HER UP LOCK HER UP

[The Omega Concern]

buzz...all's fair in love and politics. But I think my favorite quote about politics, is this one:






That MIC wants Hillary because of bigger agendas that Trump would stall and maybe even try to eliminate.

[JESUSNEEDSAHIT]

i hate lawlessness now excuse me i haveto defend a man who speaks against the first amendment, defrauded people with an infomercial university, and says breaking international law will be his policies

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by JESUSNEEDSAHIT

i hate lawlessness now excuse me i haveto defend a man who speaks against the first amendment, defrauded people with an infomercial university, and says breaking international law will be his policies

Chickenfeed compared to Hillary's molech obsession on the Trump U. Which, btw, Caveat Emptor.

International Law that impedes on sovereignty shouldn't be considered. He's not talking about the Coast Guard going into waters they're not supposed to.

[JESUSNEEDSAHIT]

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

International Law that impedes on sovereignty shouldn't be considered.

lol you are just too much I have trouble believing you are real sometimes

"i love law and order. except when laws aren't good for us."

you seem to be strugling with the concept of "law"

[The Omega Concern]

Democracy Lost: A Report on the Fatally Flawed 2016 Democratic Primaries



You are reading the executive summary of an Election Justice USA report on election fraud and voter suppression in the 2016 Democratic primaries. The full report is approximately 100 pages in length, and will be released on the evening of July 25th, 2016.


Download the full report: bit.ly/EJUSA_Democracy_Lost


As provided by Fritz Scheuren & Election Justice USA