2016 Presidential Primary

[fuzzyroes]

well I start to think: "why would he wanna be president" He has as much money to do whatever the hell he feels like doing for fun, smoking hot trophy wife, lovely intelligent family, managing an extraordinarily successful company... Does he really wanna devote all of his spare time for 4 years in a downgrade of a house in DC for only 500 000K a year?

It's hard to see why he'd actually wanna do it... Aside of course from legacy purposes.

[hnibos]

It might be because he takes delight in knowing he can make POC life miserable because he's extremely racist. I'm not sure. Just a pit in my stomach feeling.

[reprise85]

Seriously you should all watch that video. The republican party is dead and Lindsay Graham is the voice of reason... somehow.

[hnibos]

I watched it. He said his party is fucked up. I hate his goddamn voice.

[redbreegull]

you are all wrong bernie should take all that money given to him by his supporters who want him to stay in and give it to the humane society otherwise IS JUS WRONG OK!?

[redbreegull]

feelings feelings feelings

[Elphenor]

Fuzzy is being cute here really. Like a 5th graders understanding of politics

"just give the money back"

that's not even close to how this works little fuzzy

[Elphenor]

Could you imagine Bernie individually licking envelopes with crumbled up 20's inside

[MyOneAndOnly]

Petition to allow republicans to exercise their constitutional right to carry firearms at the Republican National Convention.

This is epic level trolling

http://author.addictinginfo.org/2016...n-carry-event/

[MyOneAndOnly]

The Case For Al Franken for VP

http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...#ixzz446fImUt9

[hnibos]

He's not enough of a corporate shill for Hillary.

[hnibos]

Fuck Hillary Clinton. I don't care that I live in a swing state, I'm not voting for a fucking liar that's going to make this country incrementally worse.

[JESUSNEEDSAHIT]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

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Originally Posted by Poots

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are these two gentlemen legitimately mentally retarded

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by hnibos

Fuck Hillary Clinton. I don't care that I live in a swing state, I'm not voting for a fucking liar that's going to make this country incrementally worse.

Fuck Al Gore I"m not going to vote for him. What's the worst that could happen.

[reprise85]

hey so bernie blew out clinton last night in hawaii, alaska, and washington.

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

Fuck Al Gore I"m not going to vote for him. What's the worst that could happen.

imho protest voting or refusing to vote is almost always a way for individuals to feel personally morally absolved from a system that you can't actually disconnect yourself from. grow some zygotes and learn to make a decision even when all the choices are bad. that's pretty much life.

[hnibos]

Trump has no friends and won't get anything done. 4 years of that and then get an actual progressive in office is looking more appealing than 8 years of that awful piece of shit liar.

[redbreegull]

Can you articulate what exactly she has done that makes her so much worse than any other politician? The hate thrown at her is pretty irrational when you actually look at her voting record for example. It's hard for me to not see this as GOP propaganda which has been effective on liberals


I don't like her at all, but 1) the idea that Trump in office would produce a real progressive as opposed to a swing back to the establishment seems like pie in the sky, and 2) what exactly do you think Clinton is going to do to make the US "incrementally worse?" She's basically the same candidate as Barack Obama except that she has more balls

[hnibos]

Settling for shills just reinforces that shills is the best we can do and will continue to discourage actual change.

[hnibos]

I mean, it makes total sense for Bernie supporters to continue to feel like their voice matters after this primary

[redbreegull]

that's like a standard rote answer, man. how is not voting going to change that?

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by hnibos

I mean, it makes total sense for Bernie supporters to continue to feel like their voice matters after this primary

Bernie Sanders has had a huge impact on this election cycle, the political culture of liberal America, and he's had a huge impact on Clinton as a candidate

and also the bottom line is that more people are voting for Clinton. I'm not denying the primary process isn't messed up, but ultimately she just has more support and that's that.

[hnibos]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

that's like a standard rote answer, man. how is not voting going to change that?

I didn't say I wasn't going to vote.

[hnibos]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

Bernie Sanders has had a huge impact on this election cycle, the political culture of liberal America, and he's had a huge impact on Clinton as a candidate

and also the bottom line is that more people are voting for Clinton. I'm not denying the primary process isn't messed up, but ultimately she just has more support and that's that.

She has more support a little more than halfway in a two party primary system. That is not enough for me to say that's that.

I believe he's had a little bit of influence of the things shes said. I don't have any reason to believe she's going to bite the hands that feeds her. I'm not going to be complicit in big money buying elections in the most insidious ways. I don't know what else to really say. Are you denying that the cards are stacked in her favor and she's not benefited from it?

[hnibos]

You sit there and tell me she has more support so it's fair and it's fucking bullshit. All things fair, especially with the media, I don't feel she'd have more support. But that's just an opinion and I don't have much evidence for it. At the same time, there isn't any evidence she would be where she is if she didn't have support from big money and the media. I don't want to make this personal, but I don't appreciate the insinuation that your pragmatism trumps my principles and that I've been duped by the GOP when in fact you've been duped by billionaires that don't give a fuck about us. And obviously its not just you. It's millions of Americans. Again, I don't want to turn this into shit flinging at each other because I don't think you're dumb. We are just all helpless and fucked. And you voting for Hillary isn't really progressing the concerns of many. It's just a, well, she's not racist like Trump or a religious zealot like Cruz. Whoopty fucking do

[hnibos]

Trump isn't beating anyone except his wife

[Elphenor]

My only fear with electing Clinton is she will continue to leave the banks unregulated and we will have another financial disaster this time under a democrat's administration ushering in the return of the GOP

While the economy is improving basically because it couldn't have been any worse the way the Republicans left it, it is still doomed to collapse again as we've apparently learned nothing

[Elphenor]

Obama renewed the Bush tax cuts which I still find unbelievable

Hillary will do the same

Income inequality will continue to make the whole country slowly look like Detroit

But Trump might actually bring the apocalypse so

[Elphenor]

No it doesn't work like that

"A statement sent out by the Trump campaign said that a “major beneficiary” of the plan would be corporations and “job producers.”

He's proposing the race to the bottom strategy basically. We'd start to resemble China instead of Detroit.

We'd produce a lot but the quality of life for everyone would go down

[killtrocity]

Originally Posted by hnibos

Fuck Hillary Clinton. I don't care that I live in a swing state, I'm not voting for a fucking liar that's going to make this country incrementally worse.

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