2016 Presidential Primary

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Poots

That's not irony. Irony is you lecturing people about irony when you don't have the first clue as to what it is.

It is irony, you are wrong. Just as you were wrong the first time you tried to use it. This is very science, maybe you would be better off back in the sandbox.

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

it's just a waste of money for him to pay for these huge jetliners and huge jetliners for the media and to run all these costly campaigns when he's 100% going to lose.

I mean, I'm honestly willing to bet my left nut for 5 000 dollars in return that Bernie is going to lose to Clinton (unless the FBI actually does clamp down on clinton *not gonna happen*)

Ron Paul did the same thing in 2012 and it pissed me off. I wanted him to win and fight for the nominee, but he was fine just going along, taking the donations, simply getting his message out with no hopes of actually winning. It's a pointless endeavor.

If you wanna get a message out, theres much better ways than making a joke of the electoral process.

It's not a waste of money it would be bullshit for him to take money donated by people for his campaign, spend it on something else, and then not even given them an opportunity to vote

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by Poots

So you think irony is when somebody says something that is false?

"The answer is C"

"No it's A. You're ironic."

it's ironic because in your post about how he just vomits out things, you are in fact vomiting out something that's not true - which is the opposite of what would be expected in that situation. that is, the situation of one criticizing another for being meaningless requires that you yourself not post meaningless things all the fucking time

is that clear enough for you

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

It's not a waste of money it would be bullshit for him to take money donated by people for his campaign, spend it on something else, and then not even given them an opportunity to vote

He should thank them dearly, explain that he has no chance at winning and return the money.

Much of Bernies supporters are the youth, and they're making a significant amount of his donations... These are generally people who could actually use the money, and it's inconsiderate for Bernie to continue on in the name of some media charade.

We all agree Bernie isn't going to win right?...right?... It's clear to all of us?....

..... So why should he be frivolously spending other peoples money to massage his ego? It's bad and it's wrong.

[redbreegull]

it's like ten thousand forks when all you need is a knife

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

He should thank them dearly, explain that he has no chance at winning and return the money.

Much of Bernies supporters are the youth, and they're making a significant amount of his donations... These are generally people who could actually use the money, and it's inconsiderate for Bernie to continue on in the name of some media charade.

We all agree Bernie isn't going to win right?...right?... It's clear to all of us?....

..... So why should he be frivolously spending other peoples money to massage his ego? It's bad and it's wrong.

you just don't have a clue man. not a single one

[reprise85]

People don't donate money to politics when it will cripple them. If they do, they've got some other issue going on. For example, I've been tempted to donate $10. That would not cripple me. And I live on student loans and scholarships and a 12 hours a week job. Donating more than that would require a readjustment of my budget, which I am not able to afford at this time.

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

it's like ten thousand forks when all you need is a knife

forgive me for speaking for you, lol

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

you just don't have a clue man. not a single one

heh... typical RBG response when he has no rebuttal... Just spits out childish insults.

The simple truth: Bernie has NO CHANCE at winning. He should drop out instead of letting clueless people funnel money into a hopeless cause. It's selfish and it's wrong.

He literally has NO mathematical chance! Yet he's still loving taking in all of the media attention and accolades. It's pathetic really.

Now IMAGINE for a second if TRUMP was doing what Bernie was doing... Good lord, Trump would be the ultimate Pinata... But it's lovable when ole Bernie does it.

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by Poots

What I said was true--he doesn't know what he's talking about and is in over his head. It's not ironic because I'm not stoned and just posting nonsense.

BTW I thought you weren't going to talk to me anymore because you're so above it all.

i'm not going to argue with you in disingenuous debates. that has nothing to do with being above anything except feeding trolls

[redbreegull]

Fuzzy you are ignoring everything tangible about how the election cycle actually works to throw out a lot of meaningless abstract moral platitudes based on nothing except your feelings

business as usual I guess. "my feelings are just as good as your knowledge"

[fuzzyroes]

well explain yourself then. You say it benefits Bernie because he's influencing Clintons stance... Bernies an old relic and gonna retire after his campaign.. He has no political benefit for doing this.

Clinton herself has already moved her rhetoric against the Republican party... She's not focused on Bernie one bit!. The democratic race is done. Hilary won!

I don't think you understand that do you RBG?

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

Fuzzy you are ignoring everything tangible about how the election cycle actually works to throw out a lot of meaningless abstract moral platitudes based on nothing except your feelings

business as usual I guess. "my feelings are just as good as your knowledge"

look, i get it. The Democratic party needs Bernie to continue on in a pathetic charade in a humiliating effort to keep the Democratic party "in the news". If Bernie did the right thing and rightfully drops out *saving tons of contributors huge amounts of money*, all of the attention moves to the Republican party and that isn't good for them.

It's a tactical party thing and that's why Bernies staying in... and it's wrong.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by Poots

That's after he just said this to me:



This should go on his greatest hits album.

He likes to think he's intelligent, yet when someone questions his stance he acts like a little girl throwing a temper tantrum

[reprise85]

I think there's nothing we can say to you that would change your mind, fuzzy.

If nothing else, Bernie is a true believer. He wouldn't stay in the race if he thought it wasn't good for the party or the voters.

[fuzzyroes]

No, Bernie knows he has no chance. The only reason he's staying in is to satisfy the Democratic party. They know they can't have the race finalized for months while the Republican party goes down to a sensational, wire to wire primary cycle that dominates the news cycle. Bernies just acting as a lifeless cog in the political system... everything he's supposedly against.

[fuzzyroes]

I was a big Bernie supporter, but his clueless actions have kind of made me lose most of my respect for him

[reprise85]

Cruz can't win either. He should drop out.

[fuzzyroes]

but a contested convention is in all likelihood gonna happen. He's hoping to get close so winning the nominee is justifiable

[reprise85]

that's just usurping the people's votes though. you don't have a problem with them stealing trump's nomination away?

[fuzzyroes]

I know it's all dirty politician speak that guys like RBG live be...

But if you have no fucking chance at winning, drop out.

It's common fucking sense... Hell even establishment heart-throb Jeb Bush quit after a few primaries

[reprise85]

btw this is lindsay graham on the daily show. funniest shit i've seen in a long time

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by reprise85

that's just usurping the people's votes though. you don't have a problem with them stealing trump's nomination away?

I have a huge problem with it... But that is of right now the establishments game plan... Which kind of bites them in the ass cause they hate Cruz too... Theres now talk that a new runner will join in at the convention and win the nominee...

Either way, the Republican party is a TOTAL shitshow right now... They're actually joining forces against THEIR front-runner... It's pretty historical. If Trump DOESN'T get it, all hells gonna break loose and you can spell the end of the party.

For me, it's just fucking great to see the crooked United States political system flipped on it's head

TRUMP 2016 DEAL WITH IT

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by reprise85

btw this is lindsay graham on the daily show. funniest shit i've seen in a long time

haven't watched that clip, but that guys a clown. He went on emphatically for almost a year about how he would NEVER support Ted Cruz... *fastforward a little bit* and now he's backing him!

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by Poots

I think the Republicans are going to steal this from Trump, he'll run third party and insure Hillary is elected, then the Republicans will try again in 2020. That's how much they hate him.

That's exactly what's gonna happen... Except I don't think Trump will run 3rd party, but they're absolutely gonna take it from him in the name of "principle" and therefore succumbing to the Democrats in 2016. They'd much rather lose than have Trump win.

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

haven't watched that clip, but that guys a clown. He went on emphatically for almost a year about how he would NEVER support Ted Cruz... *fastforward a little bit* and now he's backing him!

Dude, watch it. Lindsay Graham literally says it's a choice between being shot or being poisoned, but at least if you're poisoned there's a chance you'll survive.

I mean the whole thing is surreal, Graham hates Cruz and he isn't hiding it in that interview. He tells Trevor (not a citizen) that if he were him he'd leave the country b/c everything is about to go to hell.

It's amazing. I've watched it like 5 times.

[hnibos]

People are donating to Bernie because they want him to continue to run. Why else would they still be donating? In that sense, how is it wasting their money? He's using it exactly how people want it to be used.

[fuzzyroes]

you'd be surprised. I think a majority of the people donating are delusional and actually think there still might be a chance that Bernie could still win!!

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by reprise85

Dude, watch it. Lindsay Graham literally says it's a choice between being shot or being poisoned, but at least if you're poisoned there's a chance you'll survive.

I mean the whole thing is surreal, Graham hates Cruz and he isn't hiding it in that interview. He tells Trevor (not a citizen) that if he were him he'd leave the country b/c everything is about to go to hell.

It's amazing. I've watched it like 5 times.

Cruz is a total wahackjob. Total religious nutjob. I think he serves Trump well.

But I get this pit in my stomach feeling that Trump doesn't actually wanna become president . I feel like he ran for the hell of it, stir up some shit, have some fun... and now that he's close I feel like he might have second thoughts.

There was a special with Fox News' Sean Hannity after all this shit was going down and first thing Trump says all unenthusiasticly is : I never could have imagined any of this, I never imagined I'd have a shot... My heart kinda sunk when I heard that. It kinda spoke volumes to his seriousness of this all.

I hope I'm wrong though, cause I don't wanna imagine someone like Clinton running the country for 4 years.

[hnibos]

"Pit in my stomach feeling" vs. Things Trump has actually said.

I'm gonna go with pit in my stomach feeling