I find it odd that no one's mentioned the attack in Bali

beef curtains · 10-14-2002, 04:17 PM

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20021014_588.html

BALI, Indonesia Oct. 14 — Indonesia's defense minister blamed al-Qaida and its extremist allies on Monday for the massive bomb attack that killed more than 180 people at a nightclub on the resort island of Bali.

"We are sure al-Qaida is here," Matori Abdul Djalil said after a Cabinet meeting in Jakarta. "The Bali bomb blast is linked to al-Qaida with the cooperation of local terrorists."

The leader of Jemaah Islamiyah, a group linked to Osama bin Laden's terror network, denied involvement and implicated the United States.

The defense minister's statement was the first time that a top government official had implicated al-Qaida in Saturday's attack, the worst of its kind worldwide since the Sept. 11 attacks in America. Until now, police investigators have said they had few clues and no suspects in the blasts that tore through the Kuta Beach nightclub district.

FBI and Australian detectives joined the hunt for the killers while forensic experts painstakingly tried to identify bodies. Indonesian government officials said 181 people had died, though hospital workers put the figure at 188.

Many of the victims were tourists from Australia, as well as from Britain, the Netherlands, France, Germany and Ecuador. Indonesians were also among the dead.

Two Americans were killed, the U.S. State Department said, and three others were among more than 300 people injured. Dozens of foreigners remained unaccounted for.

Among the missing was Jake Young, a former University of Nebraska football player who had been working as an attorney in Hong Kong for a London-based firm. The 34-year-old was traveling in Bali with his rugby team, and had not contacted his family since the blast.

"We're clinging to a thin ray of hope that he's going to be found alive," his father, Jacob Young, said Sunday night from Midland, Texas.

The U.S. Embassy in Jakarta, often the target of bomb threats, ordered all nonessential staff and dependents to leave Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim country.

A bomb threat shut down the embassy's club for a second day. The Australian school in Jakarta closed as a precaution.

In Washington, President Bush condemned the attack as "a cowardly act designed to create terror and chaos" and offered U.S. help in finding the perpetrators.

Fearing that terrorists could strike again, thousands of stunned tourists thronged Bali's airport, desperately looking for flights. Many vacationers camped overnight on beaches, shunning built-up areas in case of more attacks.

"We just want to go back to our families," said Carima Sebba, 26, from the Netherlands. "I'm scared, I won't be back for a long time."

As stocks tumbled in Jakarta by more than 9 percent Monday and the Indonesian rupiah also took a dive against the U.S. dollar, many worried about a long-term decline in tourism, one of Indonesia's top industries.

More than 5 million foreigners visited Indonesia in 2001 about 1.5 million to Bali alone. All told, they inject about $5 billion into the economy each year.

No one claimed responsibility for the bombing the worst terrorist attack in Indonesia's history. But suspicion immediately turned to al-Qaida and an affiliated group, Jemaah Islamiyah, which is said to want a pan-Islamic state across Malaysia, Indonesia and the southern Philippines.

Jemaah Islamiyah has already been implicated in a plot at the beginning of this year to bomb foreign embassies in the region, and Australia says it is a prime suspect in the Bali attack.

"The attack bears the hallmarks of JI," said an expert on al-Qaida, Rohan Gunaratna. "Only the JI has both the intention and capability to conduct a professional terrorist attack like the Bali operation."

U.S. Ambassador Ralph Boyce told The Associated Press that while the Bali bombings couldn't yet be pinned on al-Qaida, there is evidence that it is operating in Indonesia and reaching out to local extremists.

Abu Bakar Bashir, a Muslim cleric accused of leading Jemaah Islamiyah, denied involvement and blamed the blast on the United States.

"I suspect that the bombing was engineered by the United States and its allies to justify allegations that Indonesia is a base for terrorists," he told the AP in telephone interview from Solo, a city in central Java, where he runs an Islamic boarding school.

Indonesian police refused to say whether Bashir would be questioned despite repeated calls by neighboring countries that he be arrested.

President Megawati Sukarnoputri, who wept as she toured the wreckage Sunday, promised to cooperate with other nations in the investigation.

Security Minister Bambang Susilo Yudoyono said there were signs that terrorists were planning attacks against key industrial sites, including Exxon Mobil's Arun liquefied natural gas plant in Aceh and the Caltex refinery in Sumatra.

"We will increase the security alert in those areas," Yudoyono said after a Cabinet meeting.

On Bali, there was no visible evidence of a higher security presence or stricter controls at the airport, though police officials insisted that an elite unite had been deployed. Police said they had no suspects.

Balinese officials said that only 39 positive identifications had been made, listing 15 Australians, eight Britons, five Singaporeans, six Indonesians, one German, one French citizen, one Dutch citizen, one New Zealander and one Ecuadorean.

In London, the government said at least 30 Britons had died.

Seven U.N. staffers from nearby East Timor, vacationing in Bali, were injured and two were unaccounted for, U.N. officials said.

The destruction started when a small bomb exploded outside Paddy's Discotheque in a maze of clubs and bars on Kuta Beach. Shortly afterward, a huge blast from a bomb in a Toyota minivan devastated the Sari Club, a crowded surfer hangout nearby.

The second blast ripped into the open-air bar, triggering a massive burst of flames that officials said was fueled by gas cylinders used for cooking. The explosions and fire devastated much of the block.

Australian Prime Minister John Howard said Monday he was dispatching his foreign and justice ministers to Indonesia to discuss cooperation in the hunt for the bombers.

severin · 10-14-2002, 04:38 PM

http://www.netphoria.org/forums/show...&threadid=2682

and yes, it sucks

Irrelevant · 10-14-2002, 05:12 PM

today i was at the doctor's office and this lady said "i wouldn't want to go to the bahamas right now. did you hear about the bombing there? it killed over 300 people."

and i just felt like stabbing her face.

and then this other guy kicked in with "yeah. saddam hussein needs to be stopped!" like it's at all related.

i fucking hate people.

DeviousJ · 10-14-2002, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Irrelevant
today i was at the doctor's office and this lady said "i wouldn't want to go to the bahamas right now. did you hear about the bombing there? it killed over 300 people."

and i just felt like stabbing her face.

and then this other guy kicked in with "yeah. saddam hussein needs to be stopped!" like it's at all related.

i fucking hate people.

Just wait until you hear it in a speech.

jared · 10-14-2002, 07:15 PM

where's dave and munky to blame the US ?

10-14-2002, 10:23 PM

The reason why no one has mentioned it is because the people that died weren't white.

skippy · 10-14-2002, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by Mr. Rhinoceros
The reason why no one has mentioned it is because the people that died weren't white.

Actually, the bulk of those killed were Austrailian, Canadian, British, German and Sweedish.

Translation: white people.

10-14-2002, 10:30 PM

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Originally posted by Mark LeDrew

Actually, the bulk of those killed were Austrailian, Canadian, British, German and Sweedish.

Translation: white people.

I guess the Indonesians are tired of being dirt poor and having their picture taken by rich white tourists.

strange_one · 10-14-2002, 10:38 PM

my poor countrymen

Liquid-J · 10-14-2002, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Irrelevant
today i was at the doctor's office and this lady said "i wouldn't want to go to the bahamas right now. did you hear about the bombing there? it killed over 300 people."

and then this other guy kicked in with "yeah. saddam hussein needs to be stopped!" like it's at all related.

that is brutal.

relaxor! · 10-14-2002, 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by Liquid-J

that is brutal.

Your avatar is awesome!

Liquid-J · 10-14-2002, 10:56 PM

thanks y0! people didn't really acknowledge me before i had it.

10-14-2002, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Liquid-J

that is brutal.

Yeah doctor office conversations are quite unpleasant. I can usually be seen with the exact same expression that Mike Bolton has in your avatar. The worst part is when someone says something borderline racist and assume that you agree because you are white.

"If it was up to me, I'd send all them Mexicans back where they came from. You know what I mean?"
EAT SHIT AND DIE.

Liquid-J · 10-14-2002, 11:09 PM

that sort of thing happened to me yesterday, Rhino. this guy was in our house, and we were talking about places that had hot girls, and he was talking about university of kentucky, i think. then he said, 'too bad they're all fucking those niggers, the football players. not to be racist or anything...'

riiiiiight... not to be racist.

bolton says it all.

Smiley33 · 10-14-2002, 11:42 PM

overheard at a busstop a few days ago:

"god, i hope they find bin laden. if the americans to go war with iraq, we'll probably have to be a part of it."

NO GODDAMNIT NO.

AND THE TALIBANESE PEOPLES WILL TREK FROM VIRGINIA AND HAND OVER THEIR SNIPER GUNS TO THE QUEEN OF LAS VEGAS

on an unrelated note, bush is looking older and older every day. old like his dad. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PLAY BARBIES WITH SADDAM HUSSEIN.

Cactuar · 10-15-2002, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Rhinoceros
The reason why no one has mentioned it is because the people that died weren't white.

No. It's because the people that died weren't american.

skippy · 10-15-2002, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cactuar
No. It's because the people that died weren't american.

Two Americans were killed and many more were injured. So can the cynicism bud!

10-15-2002, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark LeDrew

Two Americans were killed and many more were injured. So can the cynicism bud!

YEAH TOTALLY GLENN. CYNICISM IS FOR THE BIRDS LOL!

sawdust restaurants · 10-15-2002, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Rhinoceros
The worst part is when someone says something borderline racist and assume that you agree because you are white.

"If it was up to me, I'd send all them Mexicans back where they came from. You know what I mean?"
EAT SHIT AND DIE.

*swoon*

Samsa · 10-15-2002, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Irrelevant
today i was at the doctor's office and this lady said "i wouldn't want to go to the bahamas right now. did you hear about the bombing there? it killed over 300 people."

and i just felt like stabbing her face.

and then this other guy kicked in with "yeah. saddam hussein needs to be stopped!" like it's at all related.

i fucking hate people.

but apparently they are related

slunky_munky · 10-15-2002, 03:39 PM

I did come back here a few days ago (after a recent absence) expecting to find some discussion on the most significant event post Sep 11, but the jellyfish of Netphoria had fuck all on display so I found somewhere else to discuss it.

It's fucking rediculous that you people will talk none stop about the War on Terror, the war on Iraq, the war on this and the war on that; and then when this happens you show how superficial your interest in the larger matter really is.

beever · 10-15-2002, 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by Graveflower

Shut the fuck up.

No, you shut up. The guy have a point. Dont tell me what he says isnt the truth right there. But I dont blame you, I dont care jackshit about whats happening in DC at the moment, but dont come and tell me you care more, and fight the good fight against saddam and so on...

Affect · 10-17-2002, 07:09 PM

jenn · 10-17-2002, 07:11 PM

send that to leno.

10-14-2002, 04:17 PM	#1
beef curtains Immortal Location: I like me so much better when you're naked Posts: 21,752	I find it odd that no one's mentioned the attack in Bali http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20021014_588.html BALI, Indonesia Oct. 14 — Indonesia's defense minister blamed al-Qaida and its extremist allies on Monday for the massive bomb attack that killed more than 180 people at a nightclub on the resort island of Bali. "We are sure al-Qaida is here," Matori Abdul Djalil said after a Cabinet meeting in Jakarta. "The Bali bomb blast is linked to al-Qaida with the cooperation of local terrorists." The leader of Jemaah Islamiyah, a group linked to Osama bin Laden's terror network, denied involvement and implicated the United States. The defense minister's statement was the first time that a top government official had implicated al-Qaida in Saturday's attack, the worst of its kind worldwide since the Sept. 11 attacks in America. Until now, police investigators have said they had few clues and no suspects in the blasts that tore through the Kuta Beach nightclub district. FBI and Australian detectives joined the hunt for the killers while forensic experts painstakingly tried to identify bodies. Indonesian government officials said 181 people had died, though hospital workers put the figure at 188. Many of the victims were tourists from Australia, as well as from Britain, the Netherlands, France, Germany and Ecuador. Indonesians were also among the dead. Two Americans were killed, the U.S. State Department said, and three others were among more than 300 people injured. Dozens of foreigners remained unaccounted for. Among the missing was Jake Young, a former University of Nebraska football player who had been working as an attorney in Hong Kong for a London-based firm. The 34-year-old was traveling in Bali with his rugby team, and had not contacted his family since the blast. "We're clinging to a thin ray of hope that he's going to be found alive," his father, Jacob Young, said Sunday night from Midland, Texas. The U.S. Embassy in Jakarta, often the target of bomb threats, ordered all nonessential staff and dependents to leave Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim country. A bomb threat shut down the embassy's club for a second day. The Australian school in Jakarta closed as a precaution. In Washington, President Bush condemned the attack as "a cowardly act designed to create terror and chaos" and offered U.S. help in finding the perpetrators. Fearing that terrorists could strike again, thousands of stunned tourists thronged Bali's airport, desperately looking for flights. Many vacationers camped overnight on beaches, shunning built-up areas in case of more attacks. "We just want to go back to our families," said Carima Sebba, 26, from the Netherlands. "I'm scared, I won't be back for a long time." As stocks tumbled in Jakarta by more than 9 percent Monday and the Indonesian rupiah also took a dive against the U.S. dollar, many worried about a long-term decline in tourism, one of Indonesia's top industries. More than 5 million foreigners visited Indonesia in 2001 about 1.5 million to Bali alone. All told, they inject about $5 billion into the economy each year. No one claimed responsibility for the bombing the worst terrorist attack in Indonesia's history. But suspicion immediately turned to al-Qaida and an affiliated group, Jemaah Islamiyah, which is said to want a pan-Islamic state across Malaysia, Indonesia and the southern Philippines. Jemaah Islamiyah has already been implicated in a plot at the beginning of this year to bomb foreign embassies in the region, and Australia says it is a prime suspect in the Bali attack. "The attack bears the hallmarks of JI," said an expert on al-Qaida, Rohan Gunaratna. "Only the JI has both the intention and capability to conduct a professional terrorist attack like the Bali operation." U.S. Ambassador Ralph Boyce told The Associated Press that while the Bali bombings couldn't yet be pinned on al-Qaida, there is evidence that it is operating in Indonesia and reaching out to local extremists. Abu Bakar Bashir, a Muslim cleric accused of leading Jemaah Islamiyah, denied involvement and blamed the blast on the United States. "I suspect that the bombing was engineered by the United States and its allies to justify allegations that Indonesia is a base for terrorists," he told the AP in telephone interview from Solo, a city in central Java, where he runs an Islamic boarding school. Indonesian police refused to say whether Bashir would be questioned despite repeated calls by neighboring countries that he be arrested. President Megawati Sukarnoputri, who wept as she toured the wreckage Sunday, promised to cooperate with other nations in the investigation. Security Minister Bambang Susilo Yudoyono said there were signs that terrorists were planning attacks against key industrial sites, including Exxon Mobil's Arun liquefied natural gas plant in Aceh and the Caltex refinery in Sumatra. "We will increase the security alert in those areas," Yudoyono said after a Cabinet meeting. On Bali, there was no visible evidence of a higher security presence or stricter controls at the airport, though police officials insisted that an elite unite had been deployed. Police said they had no suspects. Balinese officials said that only 39 positive identifications had been made, listing 15 Australians, eight Britons, five Singaporeans, six Indonesians, one German, one French citizen, one Dutch citizen, one New Zealander and one Ecuadorean. In London, the government said at least 30 Britons had died. Seven U.N. staffers from nearby East Timor, vacationing in Bali, were injured and two were unaccounted for, U.N. officials said. The destruction started when a small bomb exploded outside Paddy's Discotheque in a maze of clubs and bars on Kuta Beach. Shortly afterward, a huge blast from a bomb in a Toyota minivan devastated the Sari Club, a crowded surfer hangout nearby. The second blast ripped into the open-air bar, triggering a massive burst of flames that officials said was fueled by gas cylinders used for cooking. The explosions and fire devastated much of the block. Australian Prime Minister John Howard said Monday he was dispatching his foreign and justice ministers to Indonesia to discuss cooperation in the hunt for the bombers. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-14-2002, 04:38 PM	#2
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10-14-2002, 10:23 PM	#6
Mr. Rhinoceros Posts: n/a	Always willing to play the race card... The reason why no one has mentioned it is because the people that died weren't white.

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10-14-2002, 05:12 PM	#3
Irrelevant Minion of Satan Location: kitties Posts: 6,842	today i was at the doctor's office and this lady said "i wouldn't want to go to the bahamas right now. did you hear about the bombing there? it killed over 300 people." and i just felt like stabbing her face. and then this other guy kicked in with "yeah. saddam hussein needs to be stopped!" like it's at all related. i fucking hate people.

10-14-2002, 07:15 PM	#5
jared Apocalyptic Poster Location: sacramento, ca, usa Posts: 2,193	where's dave and munky to blame the US ?

10-14-2002, 10:38 PM	#9
strange_one No Chance Location: Here Posts: 13,788	my poor countrymen

10-14-2002, 10:56 PM	#12
Liquid-J keeping it to a dull roar Location: san francisco, ca Posts: 12,824	thanks y0! people didn't really acknowledge me before i had it.

10-14-2002, 11:09 PM	#14
Liquid-J keeping it to a dull roar Location: san francisco, ca Posts: 12,824	that sort of thing happened to me yesterday, Rhino. this guy was in our house, and we were talking about places that had hot girls, and he was talking about university of kentucky, i think. then he said, 'too bad they're all fucking those niggers, the football players. not to be racist or anything...' riiiiiight... not to be racist. bolton says it all.

10-14-2002, 11:42 PM	#15
Smiley33 Minion of Satan Posts: 6,542	overheard at a busstop a few days ago: "god, i hope they find bin laden. if the americans to go war with iraq, we'll probably have to be a part of it." NO GODDAMNIT NO. AND THE TALIBANESE PEOPLES WILL TREK FROM VIRGINIA AND HAND OVER THEIR SNIPER GUNS TO THE QUEEN OF LAS VEGAS on an unrelated note, bush is looking older and older every day. old like his dad. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PLAY BARBIES WITH SADDAM HUSSEIN.

10-15-2002, 03:39 PM	#21
slunky_munky Demi-God Posts: 252	I did come back here a few days ago (after a recent absence) expecting to find some discussion on the most significant event post Sep 11, but the jellyfish of Netphoria had fuck all on display so I found somewhere else to discuss it. It's fucking rediculous that you people will talk none stop about the War on Terror, the war on Iraq, the war on this and the war on that; and then when this happens you show how superficial your interest in the larger matter really is.

10-17-2002, 07:09 PM	#23
Affect Fuck Location: xxx Posts: 5,360

10-17-2002, 07:11 PM	#24
jenn Minion of Satan Location: new york Posts: 6,325	send that to leno.