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Old 01-03-2015, 04:04 AM   #61
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literally. not money. dough. for bread

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 04:05 AM   #62
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probably pain à l'ancienne baguettes

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 04:06 AM   #63
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but i broke one of the dough hooks on my hand mixer a couple of days ago so MAYBE NOT

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 05:41 AM   #64
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hey luke got any photos of that?
i'll be interested in a recipe if it's good. i find that many dough recipes are a little off so finding one that works is a bit needle\haystack

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 08:20 AM   #65
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if i remember tomorrow, i'll take photos

but this is the book i'm using: the bread baker's apprentice

it's been my go-to for years, even though it's all imperial units.

thing with making bread is, well, a recipe is never going to work without modifications. your yeast will perform differently to that used by the recipe author. you'll be at a different altitude. the humidity won't be the same. the gluten percentage of your flour will be different. your oven will distribute heat differently. so on. it's not a question of what works (assuming you find a source written by someone who knows his/her shit) so much as figuring out what you need to tweak in order to get a satisfactory result

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 08:21 AM   #66
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for instance, and i don't really understand why, but i find i have to use about 20% more water with the recipes in the bread baker's apprentice – and this is in a temperate climate at sea level with consistently medium humidity /shrug

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 08:31 AM   #67
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oh i'm well aware of all that, i've been making doughs for a while. primarily pizza doughs though.
i can't say i always know exactly how to compensate but i am aware that a recipe isn't and probably never will be dead on. the difficult thing about it is, as you put it, to find a recipe from somebody who knows his shit. with so many variables you at least want to know that the end result is supposed to be what you're aiming for.

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Old 01-03-2015, 08:33 AM   #68
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in general though i find that it is better to err on the wet side, i.e end up with wetter doughs than the other way around. they're harder to deal with, especially with 80-90 percent hydration doughs, but if you get it right it's worth it. so i suppose we both arrived at the same outcome in different ways

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 08:42 AM   #69
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well why are you complaining that recipes are a little off, then

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 08:43 AM   #70
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anyway. that book is great. taught me lots. spends a great deal of time going into the chemical processes underlying fermentation and baking, if you're interested in that

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 08:57 AM   #71
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well why are you complaining that recipes are a little off, then
well, for instance i wanted to make a ciabatta one day.
did what i did, compensated a little (though it's fairly fluid heavy to begin with), etc
but the end result was not at all what i had in mind.
my own wrongdoing could only fuck it up so much before it's just not the right recipe.
i suspect many recipes are simplified or 'adapted for home baking' and such, and i just want ones i know i could trust, so that if the bread comes out wrong i know it's because of something i didn't do properly and could improve on next time.

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 08:58 AM   #72
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are you sure this isn't just psycho somatic
Yeah pretty sure, although for a while I thought the same thing. I think its related to my hypothyroidism and histamine intolerance cause wheat isn't the only thing that does it but it definitely is among them. Hope to one day eat baguette again

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 09:01 AM   #73
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anyway thanks, i'll check that book out

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 01:55 PM   #74
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Good luck to you in nuking your restaurant budget everyone. I'm attempting to cut back a bit.

Mostly, I want to reduce alcohol consumption. I could save way more money this way than any other. I need to join some clubs that aren't predicated on "going out" to help me stay the course.

Here's a nice article about resolutions, btw. Simple stuff you may already know but this guy has great illustrations and a simple and effective writing style:

http://oliveremberton.com/2014/how-t...actually-work/

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 04:20 PM   #75
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have you tried volunteering

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 04:20 PM   #76
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it takes up time you'd otherwise spend drinking etc

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 05:15 PM   #77
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dogfighter seems right on course for some sort of major personal crisis

might be 6 months down the line, might be a year, but it's coming

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 05:19 PM   #78
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His posts read like someone who had major problems in the past but now wants to talk to you about Jesus

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 05:24 PM   #79
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Not really, no.

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 09:33 PM   #81
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My goal has been to be a more compassionate boarder. If you don't like it I'm sorry. Its easy to engage in groupthink with board regulars, so I can understand if that's what you want to continue doing. I'm not going to stop doing what I do, so kindly fuck off.

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 09:51 PM   #82
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Homemade bread is my weakness. :/

I'm getting prepared to not eat out this coming week. No more bbq shack and no more food truck chalupas that are the size of a dinner plate.

I've got some salad ready, and baking up extra chicken breasts. Got some veggies and cherry tomatoes, yogurt and got the blender back out for some protein shakes and fruit smoothies.

I'm going to sit down and eat my last big chocolate bar tonight, or will save it for downton abbey.

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 10:06 PM   #83
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Its easy to engage in groupthink with board regulars, so I can understand if that's what you want to continue doing.
do you realise just how condescending that sounds, Mr Compassion?

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 10:07 PM   #84
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Do you realize your whole board persona is based on being condescending for no reason whatsoever

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 10:10 PM   #85
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probably pain à l'ancienne baguettes
okay, not pain à l'ancienne baguettes this time – regular parisian-style baguettes instead. a bit more work but i thought it'd be good practice


 
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Old 01-03-2015, 10:13 PM   #86
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that's not a very compassionate thing to say

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 10:14 PM   #87
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I ate lunch at work today. Spent almost $7.

The other day I bought a $20 gift card and I've been using that to buy the actual food in an attempt to have more awareness of how much I'm spending while being able to avoid handling cash (and thus bulky change). So in two days I've spent a little more than $8. I would like this $20 card to last this weekend and next weekend.

Tomorrow I am bringing a can of mixed fruit and a frozen meal.

Tonight it's salad with turkey bacon in it

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 10:18 PM   #88
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luke did you make that bread? duuuuude

 
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Old 01-03-2015, 10:21 PM   #89
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yeah. turned out well, crisp crust and light crumb per the style, but i need to work on the scoring. cut a bit too deep

 
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Pretty sure the board "groupthink" disagreed with my view of self-help anyway

 
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