Republicans

[Elphenor]

This is probably why I've never heard of him

[Elphenor]

That sentiment reminds of when someone says you have to tolerant of their intolerant view.
That's not how tolerance works.

Similarly that's not how punk works imo. You can't have an ideology that worships authority, God, and traditional values and has bigotry built into it and then call yourself Punk.

[The exploding boy]

If the whole world was liberal and progressive and shit though wouldn't the punk thing to do be to be ultra conservative?

[Elphenor]

I don't think so. I can never imagine "Gays shouldn't get married because of my religion" being Punk.

They call that Country

[Elphenor]

C'mon how can family values, Christianity, gender roles, love of the military industrial complex and support for the war on drugs be Punk?

[null123]

This kid is deriving his values from some airheaded subculture

Guess that's normal though

[D.]

Jesus fuck

elephantignore/fuzzyrose/explodingboi/belty square of back-n-forth dumbfuckery

what did Netphoria do to deserve this my god make it stop

[Elphenor]

Have to admit "elephantignore" makes me giggle

[Elphenor]

I hope you're having a go

[Trotskilicious]

Poots that first sentence was asinine, was that intentional?

This is one srsly godawful thread

[Elphenor]

I'm talking about Conservatism not religion.

[Elphenor]

You can be a Christian without thinking your personal beliefs ought to dictate the rights of others

[Elphenor]

Yes you can be a Christian Punk

[Elphenor]

I can't really think of any though idk

Edit: I even searched for some and still can't find any. There is apparently a genre called Christian Punk though which I find super amusing.

Like the point is that a lot of people are Christians but it doesn't really affect any part of their political beliefs which are more important

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by Belteshazzar

Oh, see, we live in this thing called a democratic republic. That's kind of what happens. People vote on societal standards, like polygamy, incest and homosexuality. BELIEVE IT OR NOT!

I think I've tried to explain this to you plenty of times so I'm wasting my time, but in our Republic there exists this concept of minority rights that's written into the Constitution

These are rights that are not to be infringed upon by the majority regardless of what their beliefs are. One of these is essentially the right to not be discriminated against.

Allowing one group to marry, but preventing another group from doing so is clearly discriminatory.

[Elphenor]

Tolerance of intolerance is incredibly, incredibly stupid

TOLERATE MY VIEW THAT WHITES ARE THE GREATEST RACE

[Elphenor]

Skinhead punks are exactly the conservative fuckers who ruined it for everyone

[Elphenor]

This thread is officially the O-board

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by Belteshazzar

oh wow, we got a punk scholar on our hands.

yeah, nowhere in the Constitution does it say anything about people not being able to decide on societal standards like marriage. otherwise we would all have to allow polygamy. and that's not happening. you don't know the first thing about the Constitution or the history of the USA, Elp. Read some books, plz.

Fux sake, please let California secede so you can all simmer in your own cess pool of ignorance and go down like the Hindenburg. You're already halfway there. Just one more little push, that's all we need.

lololol

Not allowing polygamy doesn't discriminate against a group of people like a ban on gay marriage does. But you think homosexuality is a choice or whatever the fuck.

Pretty much you are the dumbest motherfucker I have ever talked to on this subject

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by Poots

If you want to believe that, it is your right. I don't care. That is a part of being a free person. I might not like it, but I tolerate it. Do you see the difference?

This is STUPID

Like holy shit, tolerance does not mean being okay with racism.

[Elphenor]

I don't know how to explain this basic concept to you guys.

Bigoted views are the opposite of tolerance. It makes no fucking sense to tolerate a view that is not tolerant

[Elphenor]

The line stops at the first intolerance jesus fucking christ

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by Belteshazzar

what the hell? yes it does. choice or no choice has nothing to do with it. it's discrimination against a group of consenting adults attempting to pursue happiness. your reasoning powers are non-existent.

I'm for legalizing polygamy too. I don't give a fuck. But no the issue of polygamy is nothing like the issue of gay marriage

[Order 66]

yarrr this be a shite thread

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by Belteshazzar

Here you go, Elp. Start here.

Seriously, this guy who has no idea about minority rights ONE OF THE BIGGEST FUCKING REASONS FOR THE EXISTENCE OF THE CONSTITUTION, is trying to tell me to read the federalist papers.

Yeah, you're about to go on ignore. I can't do this

[Elphenor]

Banning gay marriage is a violation of the Due Process and the Equal Protection Clause

I'm sorry that your bigotry blocks you from seeing that

[Elphenor]

Don't fucking "Civics 101" me you mouth breather.

Again you need to understand the concept of minority rights. The founders were not concerned with gay rights or racial minority rights or woman's rights because they were bigoted white men, but they did very strongly fear majority tyranny and made it pretty clear that certain rights were to remain untouchable by the voters

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by Belteshazzar

Oh, did our fuckwit Supreme Court recently decide that with a narrow majority like yesterday? Recent legal rulings set by activist judges who want to throw away the Constitution to begin with counts for shit when evaluating the Constitution as it stands alone. I do not give one fuck what any activist judge says.

It is a super obvious ruling for anyone who isn't blinded by their inane hatred

[Elphenor]

Move to a the Middle East if you want to live in a country with no concept of minority rights where the majorities religion can decide which rights everyone has

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Poots

What's wrong with being tolerant?

Tolerance of intolerance is fucking retarded contradiction in terms you brain dead MRA reddit troglodyte

Get fucked