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Old 10-05-2014, 01:35 AM   #181
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I don't understand why you wanted to know anyway

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 01:38 AM   #182
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Mods, can you guys delete this shit-show?

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 01:40 AM   #183
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Let me troll this guy and then have the mods delete the thread.

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 01:41 AM   #184
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It's my fault for responding tho

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 01:41 AM   #185
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Not trolling at all man. Franz Ferdinand is total shit music.

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 01:42 AM   #186
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plebe fight

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 01:42 AM   #187
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Make a thread professing your love about FF on the music forum, I'm pretty sure most people would agree with me on this one.

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:12 PM   #188
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The type of music you listen to reflects on your personality.

And if you're a Republican listening to punk or alternative you're doing it wrong

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:19 PM   #189
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There's conservative punk and alternative music out there.

In punk's case its especially retarded but it exists

Well actually it isnt retarded in that punk has for a long time now only meant a sound and not an ethos.

the term alternative though has never really meant shit in terms of what you believe in. I mean Creed was probably deemed alternative at the time.

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:29 PM   #190
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Creed is like the only band I can think of like that. And we call that Christian Rock

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:30 PM   #191
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Maybe music doesn't mean shit to other people. But for me saying you listen to punk but aren't liberal, is like saying you go to church but don't believe in God.

You can do whatever, BUT YOU'RE MISSING THE WHOLE POINT

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:34 PM   #192
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Nobody tell elphenor about black metal

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:37 PM   #193
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I hate black metal

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:39 PM   #194
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No shit lol

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 05:08 PM   #195
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Not trolling at all man. Franz Ferdinand is total shit music.
Franz Ferdinand is not at all "cock rock". The singer is flamboyant and talks about have sex with dudes sometimes. They have dance songs. And a lot of their lyrics are very clever. You can pick stupid lines out of lyrics from any band. And about 90% of their lyrics are tongue-in-cheek, seriously they are not cock rock whatsoever... get a clue. You may not like them and that is fine but they are not a bandwagon band and they are not cock rock.

Also Take Me Out is the worst song on that album.


 
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Old 10-05-2014, 06:10 PM   #196
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Old 10-05-2014, 06:31 PM   #197
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Except I love "Take me Out". That little guitar lick is so much fun

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 07:34 PM   #198
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Who do you think it is then?
the flamin' groovies

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:36 PM   #199
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Maybe music doesn't mean shit to other people. But for me saying you listen to punk but aren't liberal, is like saying you go to church but don't believe in God.

You can do whatever, BUT YOU'RE MISSING THE WHOLE POINT




that's some seriously stupid shit right there.

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:42 PM   #200
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here's a short list of wiki links for some of the most influential Punks of all time. all are either conservative or libertarian

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Ramone

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michale_Graves

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojo_Nixon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exene_Cervenka

you know Iggy Pop supported Reagan, don't you?

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:46 PM   #201
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being anti establishment doesn't make you Liberal either. Especially if the establishment is Liberal

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:48 PM   #202
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Didn't Johnny become conservative when he became an old fuck just like Corgan

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:48 PM   #203
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scotty making way too damn much sense up in here

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:53 PM   #204
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Nixon is a libertarian and socially liberal. I'm pretty sure I mentioned that you'd have to be at least socially liberal but not necessarily economically liberal.

Libertarianism is very punk of course

Cervenka is awesome but also a crazy conspiracy nut

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:56 PM   #205
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I don't know anything about Michale Graves

This is kind of missing the whole point anyway

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:58 PM   #206
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I love The Stooges but always thought Iggy Pop was a Twat

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 09:06 PM   #207
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Didn't Johnny become conservative when he became an old fuck just like Corgan
god dammit no he was always that way




edit: being a Ramones fan i just assume people know that his politics were a source of tension in the band

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Old 10-05-2014, 09:53 PM   #208
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lol

I'm a big fan of their music and have probably heard all their albums but they were never a band where I felt like I needed to know more about the musicians personally.
And it's like the reason it was a source of tension I'm guessing is because "what the fuck how can call yourself a punk and support Republicans"


When I say punk is liberal I'm not saying it's like "Keynesian economics YEAH" or "Universal Healthcare FUCK YEAH" or "Let's go Unions!"

It's really just like: fuck traditional values and fuck organized religion and fuck bigotry

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 10:00 PM   #209
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Michale Graves? influential? you can fuck off with that

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 10:00 PM   #210
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dude mowed golf courses, you don't get any less influential than that

 
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