Damien Echols was/is guilty.

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

no, not everyone is entitled to their own opinion

everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. and no one's opinions are beyond questioning.

[Elijah Moon]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

you should consider the fact that you're locked up in a mental institution before you trust your feelings again.

Oh, a low blow! RD Laing believed "mental illness" is a gateway to higher consciousness, so maybe I have special insight into things...

[Elijah Moon]

Also, Amanda Knox is guilty as all hell. Deal with it.

I am not trolling; I genuinely believe these people are almost certainly guilty.

Add Oscar Pistorious to that, as well. He's super-guilty.

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by Elijah Moon

People highlight his mental deficiencies in his defense, but couldn't those very difficulties have resulted in him sounding matter-of-act or distant when recounting the crime? The fact he might sound stilted or removed isn't necessarily a sign he was being led.

Those are good points. The questions themselves are leading, though, at the very least.

It is possible they are guilty, but I doubt it.

[Raskolnikov]

Originally Posted by noyen

how much do you know about the case, fact wise, putting your gut feeling aside. I think echols is a douche noe that he's out but I still believe in their innocence. the whole wiccan thing doesn't scream intelligence and his occupy interest is cool if you're 15 but if you look at facts and DNA evidence and lack thereof and a coerced confession its plain to see it was a clusterfuck of a case and those three were just scapegoats for bad police work.

This, on all fronts. Following Damien on Twitter still is weird to me, but I do it... and yeah, he is kind of a turd sometimes now.

That said, I met Jason at (where else?) an Eddie Vedder show a few years ago, and he was just as nice as humanly possible. Think I told the story on another WM3 thread here a while back, but I will again, cause it was great.

Ed called him out a few songs in, and the whole place gave him a round of applause. Then, I went up there where he was sitting afterwards, against the flow of crowd outta the place. We stood and talked for a few minutes, and he was just nothing but humble, kind, and honest. It just bled from him. Just that kind of "small town good dude" feel.

So, we talk for a bit, ask for a photo - which he gave gladly, see below. Then, as happens in that sort of setting, others show up, the conversation naturally gets pulled away from ya, as others are cl******g around, etc. Then as we're walking off awkwardly, I feel a hand on my shoulder, it was him. He said "Hey, Adam. I just wanted to say thanks for coming up here. It means a lot to me."

Floored.

[reprise85]

Is that Jason? Doesn't look like Jesse

[Raskolnikov]

Erm, yeah - Jason. Sorry. Switched the J names somehow.

[fuzzyroes]

Anyone know if Echols is still with his wife? I saw an interview with the couple probably about 3 or 4 years ago and the wife looked extremely uncomfortable with him.

[Raskolnikov]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

Anyone know if Echols is still with his wife? I saw an interview with the couple probably about 3 or 4 years ago and the wife looked extremely uncomfortable with him.

Yeah, they're still head over heels for each other. Just recently wrote this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Yours-Eternity...ls+lorri+davis

[fuzzyroes]

Huh, how bout that. Good for them.

[Elijah Moon]

So does anyone have an opinion on Amanda Knox? I didn't back up my claim that she's guilty, but I did follow the case and have read a book on the subject. Her account doesn't add up.

[MyOneAndOnly]

well, if you read a book than it must be true

[Elijah Moon]

So a detailed book that doesn't point the finger at anyone, that just recounts the known facts, doesn't count as research? Also, as I said, I followed the case in the media too. And I personally think it's very, very likely that she had a hand in the murder.

[Order 66]

we've all done bad things. i don't see how that matters

[MyOneAndOnly]

also she has crazy eyes and that's hot

[Order 66]

and she's white

[Cool As Ice Cream]

also she gave a speech what kind of murderer would give a speech?

[MyOneAndOnly]

George Bush gave speaches but he was a man

[ohnoitsbonnie]

Peaches

[Cool As Ice Cream]

yeah at least get ur facts strait duh

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. and no one's opinions are beyond questioning.

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