Bowe Bergdahl = Impeach Obama

[MyOneAndOnly]

margin

[MyOneAndOnly]

because father's beard looks like taliban

[The Omega Concern]

It's plausible this kid was a spy. If so, everything your reading and seeing about this is bullshit.

[Trotskilicious]

i mean that's what we do when a the minority political opinion really doesn't like a president, right?

democracy happens!

[MyOneAndOnly]

No. Not when it's Democrats in charge of congress, because they'd all have to actually vote the same way on something and that almost never happens unless it's a spending bill.

[sppunk]

I'm most proud this brings to light the ginormous clusterfuck that is Gitmo.

[MyOneAndOnly]

Someone mansplain to me how conservatism gets reconciled with indefinite detention?

Answer: racism

[Future Boy]

out of anything so far this would probably be the closest to a valid reason

[Future Boy]

have they done anything right since he won re-election? biggest win was the gov shutdown and that was more republican stupidity than anything else, then came the launch and well...hilarity

[The Omega Concern]

Looks like Obozo is covering for his flunkies mistakes by outing that CIA Chief in Afghanistan last week. Gets the VA off the hot burner for now as well, but both matters have the rank and file in the military pretty ticked off, which is likely the overall goal.

On the back end Holder is galvanizing a task force to look for 'domestic extremist', as this admin continues the march towards homeland tyranny just like it was all set up for starting with 9/11 and the Patriot Act.


War on Terror? You gotta chum for terrorist and expand the definition on the home front to justify all this surveillance.

[redbreegull]

actually a terrorist is anyone who uses violence against civilians to bring about a strategic end no matter what country they are from, but I understand you've struggled with comprehending what words mean in the past

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Future Boy

have they done anything right since he won re-election? biggest win was the gov shutdown and that was more republican stupidity than anything else, then came the launch and well...hilarity

lately FB it seems like you're just half assing this whole obama cynic thing because you're running out of shit to complain about

[duovamp]

Now that's what I call edgy.

[Trotskilicious]

it's important to criticize obammy but to put it in this chicken little terminology that the sky is falling and everything he's done has been a complete disaster...it begs the question whether or not FB thinks we're actually worse off than we were six years ago

if his answer is yes then you just have to shake your head with pity

[duovamp]

Nah dude he's so fuckin objective. Just look at how objective he is.

[duovamp]

I can't obviously because I've had him on ignore for years but you can.

[Trotskilicious]

"have they done anything right since re-election"

followed by "the launch of the website sucked" and the gov shutdown...

there's literally nothing else he's got

a bad website launch. a website that is now functional. seriously this is something that he puts down as "stuff obama did wrong"

something that was blown out of proportion and has since been forgotten about because it wasn't really that important in the first place

[Trotskilicious]

i've been guilty of being a spoiled liberal whining about the ACA because there was no public option but now that i know a lot more about it, and see how it impacts lives directly, i can't help but feel foolish for being so adamant that it sucked because of the lack of a public option

now if you get fired because you have to go through chemotherapy, you can get new insurance AND THEY WON'T TELL YOU SORRY WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR YOUR CANCER TREATMENTS BECAUSE IT'S A PRE EXISTING CONDITION

LIKE A BUNCH OF FUCKING NAZI MONSTERS

[Trotskilicious]

i mean yeah the website being broke was a snafu and bad for PR but the people who remember it six months after the fact weren't voting for bammers or democrats in the first place, and the general public who were upset about it at the time have now shifted focus to Jonah hill calling someone a faggot and don't remember healthcare.gov

[Trotskilicious]

WHICH FUCKING WORKS NOW BTW

[FutureBoy]

I don't really post much politics anymore so I don't get the lately part. my feelings on the aca remain unchanged, the facts of it remain unchanged, the good doesnt offset the bad. if you were unaware of the help it provided people before then way to be ignorant and uninformed, I don't see how that is somehow my shortcoming. that post was more about politics than policy. has there been anything other than the shutdown that wasn't misplayed? it's actually important for the dems that the dem whitehouse look competent. I would hope I don't have to explain why even though Obama isn't running again. and I didn't even touch on the legality bs going on in this swap.

the website isn't fully functional yet btw, you can curse and scream about it more but it won't change that

[FutureBoy]

but here's a few questions trots

where'd you learn about the aca actually being super mega awesome?

how are we better off now than six years ago? this doesn't mean I say we are or arent, but you clearly do and feel this matters, so please elaborate

when will you learn that in the end I'm usually right anyway?

[MyOneAndOnly]

when it comes to criticizing or crediting the ACA as usually it seems to boil down to whether you hate the black president or not.

I am a proponent of real socialized medicine. Not just single payer like Canada, but something more akin to France's system. But I'm also rational enough to admit that without the ACA we would have continued on terrible trend. IE. the good far outweighs the bad.

[FutureBoy]

shut the fuck up Scotty

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by FutureBoy

I don't really post much politics anymore so I don't get the lately part. my feelings on the aca remain unchanged, the facts of it remain unchanged, the good doesnt offset the bad.

how do you figure, sportsfan

i don't think anything "plays well" in a 24 hour news cycle that nitpicks to the point where a functional website still doesn't "work" as per you.

plays well compared to what? The GOP self-combusting in lunacy? I mean seriously what is it not playing well to? You? Leftists who care more about principle than practicality?

[Trotskilicious]

and if you really need me to explain how we're better off now than we were in 2008 then i can't help you

[redbreegull]

don't worry FB just two more years til Hillary

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

actually a terrorist is anyone who uses violence against civilians to bring about a strategic end no matter what country they are from, but I understand you've struggled with comprehending what words mean in the past

You don't understand your own intellectual shit you wallow in.


You definitely don't understand the complexity of a tyranny when it starts to clamp down and EXPAND THE DEFINITION of terror. Here's an example:


Government Treated Peaceful Boycott As Terrorism

4,000 pages [of documents] obtained by the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund [through Freedom of Information Act requests] reveal that Fusion Centers and their personnel even conflate their anti-terrorism mission with a need for intelligence gathering on a possible consumer boycott during the holiday season. There are multiple documents from across the country referencing concerns about negative impacts on retail sales.



The Executive Director of the Intelligence Fusion Division, also the Joint Terrorism Task Force Director, for the D.C. Metropolitan Police Department circulated a 30-page report tracking the Occupy Movement in towns and cities across the country created by the trade association the International Council of Shopping Centers (ICSC).


...



The “counter-terrorism” documents contain multiple references to Black Friday boycotts as well as potential negative impacts on retails sales.



PCJF Executive Director Mara Verheyden-Hilliard stated: “It is outrageous that counter-terrorism officials used their anti-terrorism authority and funding to “protect” corporate America from a consumer boycott. It is well past time that the vast flow of tax-payer money to the Fusion Centers be ended.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed...cott-terrorism

[Future Boy]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

i don't think anything "plays well" in a 24 hour news cycle that nitpicks to the point where a functional website still doesn't "work" as per you.

yeah but Im right, so ok. Ignoring the media side of politics, smart plan, let me know how it works.

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

plays well compared to what? The GOP self-combusting in lunacy? I mean seriously what is it not playing well to?

the middle, duh. you know there is a sizeable chunk of the public that could really go either way on stuff, and looking like fools doesnt help sway them to your side. You do not belong in this group Trots, but it exists. There are people out there that.......wait for it...dont think like you. I know, fucking weird right? Take a minute to consider that.

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

You? Leftists who care more about principle than practicality?

Thats not really accurate but you dont have much to hang your hat on so go for it.

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

and if you really need me to explain how we're better off now than we were in 2008 then i can't help you

I dont need anything, I want to hear what YOU think we are better on now compared to then. This seemed important enough for you to mention as far as my line of thinking, when it really had zero to do with what I said. Well then explain yourself on it.

Originally Posted by FutureBoy

where'd you learn about the aca actually being super mega awesome?

dont skip this. the good in the bill has been known since the beginning, even Ive acknowledge it. So for you to say you werent aware of it and were only bitching about the PO is pretty surprising to be honest. Im thinking either you benefited from it when you lost your job, or it involves your new non-profit job somehow.

[Future Boy]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

don't worry FB just two more years til Hillary

pretty sure Ive said this before on here, but in case I havent then:

I dont really want her to run.