Are licit drugs any better?

[Bread Regal]

also there are a ton of different chemicals that contribute to your high, not just THC. this, i imagine, is part of why synthetic cannabinoids don't work for cancer patients quite like the real thing. just another reason why theraputic uses need to be explored without the fear of criminalizing sick people looking for treatment.

for example, here's an NPR story i heard the other day: http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014...child-seizures

it details the experience of a girl with severe epilepsy who found relief in a strain of cannabis that has very low potency in terms of THC, but is very potent in terms of CBD, which is what is believed to be drastically improving her quality of life. i think this story also highlights the problems inherent in criminalizing a specific species of plant which has so many varieties exhibiting so many different chemical properties.

i mean, i do want to get high, but it's really shitty that people are shut out from having access to a plant that grows by itself which would produce so much medicine in such ridiculous abundance at a cost that is negligible. i hypothesize that the inconsistencies in y'alls experiences not only has to do with verying body chemistry but also not knowing what the hell you're smoking. the most information that you could possibly get out of your drug dealer is "indica or sativa?". It's so much more complex than that.

What was I talking about again

[Bread Regal]

jesus fucking christ this goddamn board.

[Bread Regal]

also there are a ton of different chemicals that contribute to your high, not just THC. this, i imagine, is part of why synthetic cannabinoids don't work for cancer patients quite like the real thing. just another reason why theraputic uses need to be explored without the fear of criminalizing sick people looking for treatment.

for example, here's an NPR story i heard the other day: http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014...child-seizures

it details the experience of a girl with severe epilepsy who found relief in a strain of cannabis that has very low potency in terms of THC, but is very potent in terms of CBD, which is what is believed to be drastically improving her quality of life. i think this story also highlights the problems inherent in criminalizing a specific species of plant which has so many varieties exhibiting so many different chemical properties.

i mean, i do want to get high, but it's really shitty that people are shut out from having access to a plant that grows by itself which would produce so much medicine in such ridiculous abundance at a cost that is negligible. i hypothesize that the inconsistencies in y'alls experiences not only has to do with verying body chemistry but also not knowing what the hell you're smoking. the most information that you could possibly get out of your drug dealer is "indica or sativa?". It's so much more complex than that.

What was I talking about again

[Bread Regal]

I would also like to add that new studies suggest that bipolar disorders are more physiologically linked to epilepsy than other mood disorders. like there are manic episodes, which are what the name would imply, and there are mixed episodes in which long periods of depression are peppered with what looks like a manic episode (explosive outbursts of rage, severe irritability, insomnia). research psychologists believe these are are just long manic episodes that express themselves in a way that looks like depression. this is hy i'm being prescribed Lamictal which is an anticonvulsant, and I have to say it as worked out really well for me so far.

so if that little girl finds that her seizures are improved by smoking a little bit of a secific kind of weed, I can see why people with mood disorders find relief themselves.

i mean goddamn it can we just legalize it already.

[toase]

Thanks everybody, I've read it all, and I guess the best thing to do right now is to see a doctor/therapist, I've never been to a psychiatry/psychologist before, I guess the time has finally arrived.

Marijuana usually works for me, but it is getting hard to find and my new roommate is not very happy with that, I don't want to upset him because he is being really nice to me with everything else.

[hnibos]

Originally Posted by Bread Regal

I would also like to add that new studies suggest that bipolar disorders are more physiologically linked to epilepsy than other mood disorders. like there are manic episodes, which are what the name would imply, and there are mixed episodes in which long periods of depression are peppered with what looks like a manic episode (explosive outbursts of rage, severe irritability, insomnia). research psychologists believe these are are just long manic episodes that express themselves in a way that looks like depression. this is hy i'm being prescribed Lamictal which is an anticonvulsant, and I have to say it as worked out really well for me so far.

so if that little girl finds that her seizures are improved by smoking a little bit of a secific kind of weed, I can see why people with mood disorders find relief themselves.

i mean goddamn it can we just legalize it already.

Lamictal worked wonders for me in high school. Shouldn't have gotten off of it as soon as I did.

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by toase

Thanks everybody, I've read it all, and I guess the best thing to do right now is to see a doctor/therapist, I've never been to a psychiatry/psychologist before, I guess the time has finally arrived.

Marijuana usually works for me, but it is getting hard to find and my new roommate is not very happy with that, I don't want to upset him because he is being really nice to me with everything else.

Good luck. Let us know how it goes.

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by hnibos

Lamictal worked wonders for me in high school. Shouldn't have gotten off of it as soon as I did.

I still take it, but I'm going to start weening off in a couple months. Going to bring it up next appointment in March. It seems like the safest one for me to try to get off of or at least get down to a small dose.

[supergoo]

I live in WA so MJ *IS* a licit drug

[killtrocity]

Originally Posted by reprise85

The thing is, these drugs work. The vast majority of people with severe depression or schizophrenia will find a drug that helps their symptoms. But the side effects can be terrible. So what incentive do companies (where the $$$$ is) have to even really understand WHY their shit works if people are going to buy it regardless? I mean, imagine if there was a prozac-like drug that had no bad side effects. It just helped depression. Not only would no other drug sell, but that would be the end of the circle of life - make a drug, hold on to the patent like the golden ticket it is, and make a new "better" one when the patent runs out.

Excellent point.

Originally Posted by Bread Regal

also there are a ton of different chemicals that contribute to your high, not just THC. this, i imagine, is part of why synthetic cannabinoids don't work for cancer patients quite like the real thing. just another reason why theraputic uses need to be explored without the fear of criminalizing sick people looking for treatment.

Also an excellent point. Plus, there are subtle differences between species. Idk how purple kush and Afghan haze or whatever the fuck fit into that, but there are at least two separate species of cannabis which means that by definition they have distinct genomes and therefore may express different psychoactive compounds.

[yo soy el mejor]

sativa and indacouch?