Universal Healthcare is Wonderful and Will Ensure Better Health care for everyone

[Starla]

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

some of you are seriously fucking stupid. I'm sorry, I can't think of a nicer way to say it. I'm not sure if it's that you were actually the farthest up Obama's ass and just can't get over your disappointment or what, but half the people posting here just keep repeating ludicrous bullshit untruths, and it makes them look like they are trying to convince themselves of these absurdities in order to maintain their positions instead of accepting unfortunate realities. Obama literally cannot close the prison at Guantanamo Bay. What the arguments by Starla and her ilk amount to (and what her article says) is basically, "well if he really wanted to he would find a way!" This is the kind of dumbshit juvenile thinking that leads people to tell kids they can do ANYTHING they want with their lives if they try hard enough and set their minds to it!!!!, or tell poor people they would have jobs and food if they really wanted to and just worked hard enough. Any suggestion that Obama could have achieved things that are literally impossible with enough will power is just stupid to the point where I have to guess you are just trying to convince yourself

The King of the Executive Order could close it if he really wanted to.


He can't, but not for some legal reason that he could easily work around, but because in the midst of all these bad guys that don't deserve to be in Gitmo, are some really badass mofo's that know too much and if they were given a fair trail in the states they could expose how much the CIA has been supporting them all these years, right down to the agent known as Tim Osman (Osama Bin Laden) and what he was really all about.



RBG, you don't know shit about the real world, keep living your fantasy, its safer for you there.

[sppunk]

Delayed again until just past the next election cycle. Awesome.

[Future Boy]

thats just the 2015 enrollment delayed no? i dont see how that does much

[Trotskilicious]

that's what came up on his twitter feed

[Starla]

How is this going to work for all of the people whose insurance was cancelled?

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Starla

How is this going to work for all of the people whose insurance was cancelled?

for those like 6 or so people who want to keep their shitty insurance, they can keep it for another year.

eventually they will have to change their plans because their current plans are fucking worthless

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by Future Boy

thats just the 2015 enrollment delayed no? i dont see how that does much

Al Franken: 'We Have to Consider Extending the Deadline for the Mandate'

"I think then we have to consider extending the deadline for the mandate, but let’s hope that doesn't happen," Franken told NPR.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...te_768090.html



The beginnings of the Democratic Party shedding the Progressive's among them. It's about damn time and can't happen soon enough.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

for those like 6 or so people who want to keep their shitty insurance, they can keep it for another year.

eventually they will have to change their plans because their current plans are fucking worthless

[Future Boy]

those 6 people that want to keep their stuff really know how to work the media, we should hire them for something

[Future Boy]

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

The beginnings of the Democratic Party shedding the Progressive's among them. It's about damn time and can't happen soon enough.

[Starla]

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

The beginnings of the Democratic Party shedding the Progressive's among them. It's about damn time and can't happen soon enough.

And then what happens?

[Starla]

Hope and change? lol

[Future Boy]

dont worry starla, demographics.

Take a minute and just imagine it...it'll be...amazing

[Trotskilicious]

if only the dems could get rid of those marxist "progressives"

[killtrocity]

that bernie sanders is a troublemaker, it's a really big problem

[Order 66]

no prob wayne

[The Omega Concern]

Obama 'hijacks' tech executive meeting to make 'PR pitch' on Obamacare website fix instead of dealing with NSA surveillance

'We didn't really care for a PR pitch' about Obamacare, said one executive

The White House telegraphed in advance that the president wanted to talk up his efforts to fix healthcare.gov, but no one in the room was interested

Tech executives gathered in the Roosevelt Room to discuss the NSA's overreach in seizing their digital records

A federal judge ruled Monday that the practice violates the U.S. Constitution's guarantees against unreasonable searches




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...gov-fixes.html

[Order 66]

no prob wayne

[sppunk]

The ACA would be all these things if were offering remotely competitive pricing, but it doesn't. It isn't affordable for many, many Americans.

If you aren't poor, you are getting jobbed on rates in obscene ways. This won't be successful unless that's fixed.

i'm sure the poor people are going to be shedding many tears for the non-poors who aren't getting competitive pricing

[Future Boy]

so are we assuming non-poors means rich people

[MyOneAndOnly]

if only McCain had won we'd all have better cheaper health care now. why did obama have to fuck it all up?

[redbreegull]

since Starla's reasoning seems to be reigning supreme in this thread, I'll mention that I know several extremely wealthy people who are seeing drastically lower prices under Obamacare

[The Omega Concern]

the Truth isn't reason, but it can be better deduced from reason. The Truth is, the clusterfuck that is Obamacare is going exactly as planned.

[redbreegull]

hey grandpa there's no such thing as Truth

[The Omega Concern]

Which is why the Marxist progressives fail; can't see it, touch it, know it, can only deny it. Nice to know at least subconsiously you think I have wisdom.

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

Which is why the Marxist progressives fail; can't see it, touch it, know it, can only deny it. Nice to know at least subconsiously you think I have wisdom.

even for you this is is just incomprehensible babble

[redbreegull]

have you ever seen a therapist, you have some extreme narcissism and self-aggrandizement issues

[The Omega Concern]

You are fixated on the wrong thing. Me. get over it. I'm a guy's guy with an academic bent that has enough balls to say what he thinks and on the chance I discuss politics with folks out and about, I say the same things but usually center back on how the Bush's and the Clinton's need to be arrested because they've been looting Billions from all of us for decades now and were always in cahoots with each other despite the public facade of representing opposing ideologies.