Incognito - Page 2

The Omega Concern · 11-07-2013, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by hnibos

If Martin would have just stood up to him the Dolphins wouldn't have to be dealing with this crap.

You could also put this all on the coach for putting Incognito in their leadership council to begin with.

Some teams still have cultures where the vets help out the rookies and pick up at the tab instead of extorting them for it. A good coach might even demand a no hazing policy because he expects them to be professional but mainly because he needs the rookies to make them a better team and he doesn't want them dealing with college-like bullshit.

That's how Bill Walsh did it and the large coaching tree under his name.

Trotskilicious · 11-07-2013, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bread Regal

the thing about tottenham and the whole yids thing i that they are in a historically jewish part of london and they used to be the target of that slur before they adopted it to "take it back" or whatever. i mean, i would prefer they lose the whole thing altogether, but i also think it's one of the less pernicious cultural appropriations in professional sports.

ajax does the same for the same reason

it's still unsettling to see a bunch of dutch people wearing hasidic hats with the little beardy things on waving israeli flags

Trotskilicious · 11-07-2013, 01:16 AM

can i point out also in the nba's favor that the gil arenas thing was a while ago, the kobe rape trial was worse but still a while ago i mean lately in the nba the dudes with the bad behavior headlines are

michael beasley is stoned
that forward with the anxiety disorder

and like what, srsly. nba is boyscouts compared to the nfl.

Trotskilicious · 11-07-2013, 01:17 AM

and then people are like oh michael beasely is stoned he's such a thug

no he's practically the Towlie of the NBA

can someone hit me with that gif of him feeling on anthony tolliver's knee

Order 66 · 11-07-2013, 01:24 AM

http://i.imgur.com/tVdHg.gif

always gets me how tolliver's like "well... okay"

slunken · 11-07-2013, 01:24 AM

Walkin backwards, shoes and jacket turned around
Gloves on, opposite hands
Can you recognize me?
I wear Blu Blocker shades so you can't see what I see
Holdin a mirror up, so I don't run into nobody

Trotskilicious · 11-07-2013, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Order 66

http://i.imgur.com/tVdHg.gif

always gets me how tolliver's like "well... okay"

man he's so high RIGHT NOW

Trotskilicious · 11-07-2013, 01:26 AM

oh wait delonte west fucked lebron's mom then got cut because he had a bipolar episode

the nba where the mental illness is BIG

Trotskilicious · 11-07-2013, 01:27 AM

i don't know if that's true about lebron's mom but i'm going to will it into reality

killtrocity · 11-07-2013, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

hey is this thing national yet because it's about macho culture and how dumb and violent it is and how the nfl basically does nothing but promote dudes like richie incognito

Hey speaking of macho culture have you seen this commercial for the NFL's new partner's flagship title? Runs during football games.

Just in case the interplay between macho culture and militarism wasn't overt enough

Trotskilicious · 11-07-2013, 01:41 AM

nfl commericals are abhorrent, i was trying to find some really repulsive sexist ones or the Mightiest Man on Earth stuff because they have the tv box tivo whatever the fuck

Trotskilicious · 11-07-2013, 01:42 AM

oh man that's like so like us hur hur hur

Order 66 · 11-07-2013, 01:54 AM

i wonder if that call of duty dog dies in hte game

Future Boy · 11-07-2013, 02:19 AM

Ok I think it is now

Trotskilicious · 11-07-2013, 02:29 AM

Breaking: Sports is a Reflection of Culture

hnibos · 11-07-2013, 11:17 AM

Miami Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland suggested offensive tackle Jonathan Martin physically confront guard Richie Incognito -- even saying he should "punch" him -- as a means of dealing with how he was being treated, Pro Football Talk reported Wednesday night.

duovamp · 11-07-2013, 11:33 AM

Christ. And like everyone else said, that's the whole systemic and personal issue. Incognito clearly wouldn't respond to things like reasons or empathy, so violence is the only consequence that would make it through his head. And then that's using the master's tools etc... I wish Martin shot him, but that's just perpetuating the problem, and Incognito will only be further reinforced by his family, peers, society... It's shit. It's all shit.

11-07-2013, 01:40 PM

I don't know the boards grantland policy but I thought this was good

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...llying-scandal

I mean a fairly big outlet handling the story like this is good because most prominent sports writers seem to have the same mentality as players which is odd since they're mostly pencil neck geeks

duovamp · 11-07-2013, 02:29 PM

It was mentioned during some of the games last Sunday, that specifically he wasn't playing because he had an "emotional breakdown," that he was being bullied and there was an incident in the cafeteria where he was invited to sit with some guys, then as soon as he sat down they all got up to leave. So to me, that sounded horrible and I felt really bad for the guy. Little did I realize how many viewers would think he's just a big fucking pussy.

Trotskilicious · 11-07-2013, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Aeris Hilton

I don't know the boards grantland policy but I thought this was good

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...llying-scandal

I mean a fairly big outlet handling the story like this is good because most prominent sports writers seem to have the same mentality as players which is odd since they're mostly pencil neck geeks

grantland's actually pretty good i've found, but i'm fairly certain bill simmons would probably take the counterpoint which is ironic because i'm pretty sure simmons would be reduced to tears after 30 minutes in an nfl training camp

Trotskilicious · 11-07-2013, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by duovamp

It was mentioned during some of the games last Sunday, that specifically he wasn't playing because he had an "emotional breakdown," that he was being bullied and there was an incident in the cafeteria where he was invited to sit with some guys, then as soon as he sat down they all got up to leave. So to me, that sounded horrible and I felt really bad for the guy. Little did I realize how many viewers would think he's just a big fucking pussy.

my first reaction is "who is the team captain, rachel mcadams from mean girls"?

duovamp · 11-07-2013, 02:48 PM

How awesome would that be though?

emotionalfriend · 11-07-2013, 03:14 PM

http://mmqb.si.com/2013/11/07/richie...-lydon-murtha/

seems legit

Trotskilicious · 11-07-2013, 03:24 PM

that's a report from incognitos college bro, someone who hasn't played for the dolphins in over a year and a half

the justification is that martin is "shy" and would avoid eye contact. some guys put up these walls because they don't like you and think you're oafish pigs, methinks. perhaps he got to the NFL and found that he didn't like the culture or the people and was annoyed that it was some kind of tradition that he has to pay for your fucking food, you bully. perhaps he was longing to have a mature conversation with one of his team mates about herod or the works of virgil and all he could find is bros talking about bitches they banged, playing madden, and muscles.

these guys never have to grow up do they

11-07-2013, 03:26 PM

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That voicemail he sent came from a place of humor, but where he really screwed up was using the N-word. That, I cannot condone, and it’s probably the biggest reason he’s not with the team right now. Odd thing is, I’ve heard Incognito call Martin the same thing to his face in meetings and all Martin did was laugh. Many more worse things were said about others in the room from all different parties. It’s an Animal House. Now Incognito’s being slandered as a racist and a bigot, and unfortunately that’s never going to be wiped clean because of all the wrong he’s done people in his past. But if you really know who Richie is, he’s a really good, kind man and far from a racist.

CALLING SOMEBODY A "HALF NIGGER PIECE OF SHIT" IS LIKE THE LITERAL DEFINITION OF A RACIST YOU CAN'T EVEN HAVE THAT THOUGHT IN YOUR HEAD AND NOT BE A RACIST HOLY GOD DAMNED HELL

Trotskilicious · 11-07-2013, 03:27 PM

or martin's a standoffish dick whatever

11-07-2013, 03:28 PM

These fucking degenerates with their "code" and what happens in the locker room stays in the locker room
Just kill them
Kill all the jocks

Trotskilicious · 11-07-2013, 03:28 PM

yeah i believe that the unanimous dirtiest player in the nfl with a history of disciplinary problems is a good, kind man

The Omega Concern · 11-09-2013, 05:01 PM

this is a now a Bill Walsh thread.

this story's been getting alotta play here cuz Martin's from Stanford. Walsh and Harbaugh coached there before they got the 49'ers gig and they just don't do the hazing thing.

This whole story reminds of Walsh's comment on what set him apart, "There's a lot of bad coaching out there." I can understand the bunker mentality among players and even the guys backing up Incognito, but I'm surprised more pressure hasn't been brought on the coach. By the Walsh standard, he sucks.

11-07-2013, 12:29 AM	#31
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11-07-2013, 01:16 AM	#34
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	can i point out also in the nba's favor that the gil arenas thing was a while ago, the kobe rape trial was worse but still a while ago i mean lately in the nba the dudes with the bad behavior headlines are michael beasley is stoned that forward with the anxiety disorder and like what, srsly. nba is boyscouts compared to the nfl.

11-07-2013, 01:17 AM	#35
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	and then people are like oh michael beasely is stoned he's such a thug no he's practically the Towlie of the NBA can someone hit me with that gif of him feeling on anthony tolliver's knee

11-07-2013, 01:24 AM	#36
Order 66 Socialphobic Posts: 11,883	http://i.imgur.com/tVdHg.gif always gets me how tolliver's like "well... okay"

11-07-2013, 01:24 AM	#37
slunken Virgo Posts: 39,745	Walkin backwards, shoes and jacket turned around Gloves on, opposite hands Can you recognize me? I wear Blu Blocker shades so you can't see what I see Holdin a mirror up, so I don't run into nobody

11-07-2013, 01:26 AM	#39
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	oh wait delonte west fucked lebron's mom then got cut because he had a bipolar episode the nba where the mental illness is BIG

11-07-2013, 01:27 AM	#40
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	i don't know if that's true about lebron's mom but i'm going to will it into reality

11-07-2013, 01:41 AM	#42
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	nfl commericals are abhorrent, i was trying to find some really repulsive sexist ones or the Mightiest Man on Earth stuff because they have the tv box tivo whatever the fuck

11-07-2013, 01:42 AM	#43
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	oh man that's like so like us hur hur hur

11-07-2013, 01:54 AM	#44
Order 66 Socialphobic Posts: 11,883	i wonder if that call of duty dog dies in hte game

11-07-2013, 02:19 AM	#45
Future Boy The Man of Tomorrow Posts: 26,972	Ok I think it is now

11-07-2013, 02:29 AM	#46
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	Breaking: Sports is a Reflection of Culture

11-07-2013, 11:17 AM	#47
hnibos Braindead Location: I was just reading, right? Posts: 15,020	Miami Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland suggested offensive tackle Jonathan Martin physically confront guard Richie Incognito -- even saying he should "punch" him -- as a means of dealing with how he was being treated, Pro Football Talk reported Wednesday night.

11-07-2013, 11:33 AM	#48
duovamp Brazilian Blouselord Location: heavy metal pool party Posts: 35,674	Christ. And like everyone else said, that's the whole systemic and personal issue. Incognito clearly wouldn't respond to things like reasons or empathy, so violence is the only consequence that would make it through his head. And then that's using the master's tools etc... I wish Martin shot him, but that's just perpetuating the problem, and Incognito will only be further reinforced by his family, peers, society... It's shit. It's all shit.

11-07-2013, 01:40 PM	#49
MusicMan4 Posts: n/a	I don't know the boards grantland policy but I thought this was good http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...llying-scandal I mean a fairly big outlet handling the story like this is good because most prominent sports writers seem to have the same mentality as players which is odd since they're mostly pencil neck geeks

11-07-2013, 02:29 PM	#50
duovamp Brazilian Blouselord Location: heavy metal pool party Posts: 35,674	It was mentioned during some of the games last Sunday, that specifically he wasn't playing because he had an "emotional breakdown," that he was being bullied and there was an incident in the cafeteria where he was invited to sit with some guys, then as soon as he sat down they all got up to leave. So to me, that sounded horrible and I felt really bad for the guy. Little did I realize how many viewers would think he's just a big fucking pussy.

11-07-2013, 02:48 PM	#53
duovamp Brazilian Blouselord Location: heavy metal pool party Posts: 35,674	How awesome would that be though?

11-07-2013, 03:14 PM	#54
emotionalfriend Ownz Posts: 634	http://mmqb.si.com/2013/11/07/richie...-lydon-murtha/ seems legit

11-07-2013, 03:24 PM	#55
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	that's a report from incognitos college bro, someone who hasn't played for the dolphins in over a year and a half the justification is that martin is "shy" and would avoid eye contact. some guys put up these walls because they don't like you and think you're oafish pigs, methinks. perhaps he got to the NFL and found that he didn't like the culture or the people and was annoyed that it was some kind of tradition that he has to pay for your fucking food, you bully. perhaps he was longing to have a mature conversation with one of his team mates about herod or the works of virgil and all he could find is bros talking about bitches they banged, playing madden, and muscles. these guys never have to grow up do they

11-07-2013, 03:27 PM	#57
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	or martin's a standoffish dick whatever

11-07-2013, 03:28 PM	#58
MusicMan4 Posts: n/a	These fucking degenerates with their "code" and what happens in the locker room stays in the locker room Just kill them Kill all the jocks

11-09-2013, 05:01 PM	#60
The Omega Concern Banned Location: stay, far, away Posts: 8,997	this is a now a Bill Walsh thread. this story's been getting alotta play here cuz Martin's from Stanford. Walsh and Harbaugh coached there before they got the 49'ers gig and they just don't do the hazing thing. This whole story reminds of Walsh's comment on what set him apart, "There's a lot of bad coaching out there." I can understand the bunker mentality among players and even the guys backing up Incognito, but I'm surprised more pressure hasn't been brought on the coach. By the Walsh standard, he sucks.