Hello English children! Please engage in oral sex

beef curtains · 02-22-2003, 06:08 AM

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...585546,00.html

Government urges under-16s to experiment with oral sex
By Glen Owen, Education Correspondent

A GOVERNMENT-backed course is encouraging pupils under 16 to experiment with oral sex, as part of a drive to cut rates of teenage pregnancy.
Family campaigners believe that the course, called A Pause, is having the reverse effect by exciting the sexual interest of children.

The scheme, which has been pioneered by Exeter University and is backed by the Departments of Health and Education, trains teachers to discuss various pre-sex “stopping points” with under-age teenagers.

It aims to reduce promiscuity by encouraging pupils to discover “levels of intimacy”, including oral sex, instead of full sexual intercourse.

More than 100,000 children are now taking the course at one in every thirty secondary schools. It forms part of efforts to tackle Britain’s teenage pregnancy rate, which is the highest in Western Europe.

Robert Whelan, director of the Family Education Trust, said he hoped that the Sexual Offences Bill, currently going through the House of Lords, would lead to the course being banned. A provision in the Bill would make it an offence for anyone to “arrange or facilitate the commission of a child sex offence”.

He said: “I don’t think anyone believes that teaching pupils about oral sex will stop them having full sex — it is more likely to make them want to try it, and it doesn’t protect them from sexually transmitted diseases.”

John Rees, programme manager for A Pause, said that he was keen to teach children that “it is acceptable simply to hold hands” and to discover different levels of intimacy.

“We make it clear that there are many ways to manage relationships — that it doesn’t all have to be about full sex,” he said. He added that he was “very worried” that the Bill would end the scheme.

Lynda Brine, a teacher from a Doncaster comprehensive who recently attended a training day for the course, says in today’s Times Educational Supplement that she was primed to deal with detailed questions about oral and anal sex. “I was amazed. Are these really the sort of questions to which we as a profession should be responding?” she writes.

“There was no framework for talking about responsibility or the emotional side of relationships. By following this course, I feel that teachers are implicitly supporting under-age sexual activity.”

crescentfresh · 02-22-2003, 06:16 AM

Isn't oral sex foreplay? or maybe I'm crazy.

Ihaman · 02-22-2003, 06:30 AM

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Originally posted by crescentfresh
Isn't oral sex foreplay? or maybe I'm crazy.

ARE YOU CRAZY?

crescentfresh · 02-22-2003, 06:31 AM

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Originally posted by Ihaman

ARE YOU CRAZY?

Well apparently so!

Junebug · 02-22-2003, 06:51 AM

Holy Crap. So the school teachers are teaching their kids this? Can you even imagine? I mean, my gosh, condom talk is bad enough...what the crap do you do when your teacher is talking to you about oral sex. "see kids, holding hands is great, and heck, go for the anal/oral sex...just please don't have 'real' sex okay?" What the crap.

Lie · 02-22-2003, 07:01 AM

I'd be willing to bet that less kids will bother with oral sex and move right on to full-on sex because of that. Having that sort of thing detailed and encouraged in the classroom takes all the fun out of it. Part of the appeal of oral sex for kids is that it's hardly ever touched on by parents, teachers, clergy, etc. Because it's also a way to prevent pregnancy, there's a devious sort of satisfaction in it, like you found a loophole or something. Now that the pleasure of finding that loophole on their own has been taken away, they'll be more inclined to sit in the classroom thinking "Fuck you, I'm not doing THAT!" Yep, this just about ruins it. I'd expect the teen pregnany rate to triple by next year.

crescentfresh · 02-22-2003, 07:46 AM

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Originally posted by Junebug
I mean, my gosh, condom talk is bad enough...

Well, my parents never talked about it. I think condom talk is alright in school.

Junebug · 02-22-2003, 07:57 AM

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Originally posted by crescentfresh

Well, my parents never talked about it. I think condom talk is alright in school.

oh I was just referring to the uncomfortability factor. I don't really care that they talk about condoms, it just creeps me out when I have to listen to my friend's soccer coach give us a lecture on them :erm . I can't even imagine my parents talking to me about sex.

crescentfresh · 02-22-2003, 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by Junebug

oh I was just referring to the uncomfortability factor. I don't really care that they talk about condoms, it just creeps me out when I have to listen to my friend's soccer coach give us a lecture on them :erm . I can't even imagine my parents talking to me about sex.

Haha, yeah, true. i acutally learned all of my sex education from the playground monkeybars converstions.

kypper · 02-22-2003, 02:41 PM

Sorry, but if I'm going around fucking everyone at age 14, I'd rather get an STD down below where it's not visible (and a condom down there is also less awkward, for that matter) as opposed to on the side of my face because 'oral sex is better.'

and I've yet to see a dental dam in a drug store.

Smiley33 · 02-22-2003, 02:48 PM

suckie suckie, five lollipop

Toast · 02-22-2003, 03:31 PM

Any chance they could expierement with oral hygiene?

end transmission.

oui henri · 02-22-2003, 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by kypper
Sorry, but if I'm going around fucking everyone at age 14, I'd rather get an STD down below where it's not visible (and a condom down there is also less awkward, for that matter) as opposed to on the side of my face because 'oral sex is better.'

and I've yet to see a dental dam in a drug store.

HAHA i was just going to say...
they better be using condoms and dental dams!

Oh winner!

noir cat · 06-30-2003, 04:06 AM

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Originally posted by Smiley33

I found you out.

Thoughtless · 06-30-2003, 04:13 AM

hahahaha i thought to myself "wtf? that's an oldddd thread. dan is on the loose again"

dusty · 06-30-2003, 05:07 AM

what about disease?!
are they teaching the children about aids, too?

strange_one · 06-30-2003, 05:16 AM

no scouse_dave, this doesn't mean you can now legally blow boys under 16

wangcomputers · 06-30-2003, 05:17 AM

blimey!!

Boycott Graceland · 06-30-2003, 05:46 AM

*moves to england*

02-22-2003, 06:08 AM	#1
beef curtains Immortal Location: I like me so much better when you're naked Posts: 21,752	Hello English children! Please engage in oral sex http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...585546,00.html Government urges under-16s to experiment with oral sex By Glen Owen, Education Correspondent A GOVERNMENT-backed course is encouraging pupils under 16 to experiment with oral sex, as part of a drive to cut rates of teenage pregnancy. Family campaigners believe that the course, called A Pause, is having the reverse effect by exciting the sexual interest of children. The scheme, which has been pioneered by Exeter University and is backed by the Departments of Health and Education, trains teachers to discuss various pre-sex “stopping points” with under-age teenagers. It aims to reduce promiscuity by encouraging pupils to discover “levels of intimacy”, including oral sex, instead of full sexual intercourse. More than 100,000 children are now taking the course at one in every thirty secondary schools. It forms part of efforts to tackle Britain’s teenage pregnancy rate, which is the highest in Western Europe. Robert Whelan, director of the Family Education Trust, said he hoped that the Sexual Offences Bill, currently going through the House of Lords, would lead to the course being banned. A provision in the Bill would make it an offence for anyone to “arrange or facilitate the commission of a child sex offence”. He said: “I don’t think anyone believes that teaching pupils about oral sex will stop them having full sex — it is more likely to make them want to try it, and it doesn’t protect them from sexually transmitted diseases.” John Rees, programme manager for A Pause, said that he was keen to teach children that “it is acceptable simply to hold hands” and to discover different levels of intimacy. “We make it clear that there are many ways to manage relationships — that it doesn’t all have to be about full sex,” he said. He added that he was “very worried” that the Bill would end the scheme. Lynda Brine, a teacher from a Doncaster comprehensive who recently attended a training day for the course, says in today’s Times Educational Supplement that she was primed to deal with detailed questions about oral and anal sex. “I was amazed. Are these really the sort of questions to which we as a profession should be responding?” she writes. “There was no framework for talking about responsibility or the emotional side of relationships. By following this course, I feel that teachers are implicitly supporting under-age sexual activity.” __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

02-22-2003, 02:41 PM	#10
kypper Ownz Posts: 653	Sorry, but if I'm going around fucking everyone at age 14, I'd rather get an STD down below where it's not visible (and a condom down there is also less awkward, for that matter) as opposed to on the side of my face because 'oral sex is better.' and I've yet to see a dental dam in a drug store. __________________ Noyen to Suze: "i bet you have to get extra mean absorbency pads for those really MEAN flow days. mean."

02-22-2003, 06:16 AM	#2
crescentfresh Minion of Satan Location: Diego Posts: 6,657	Isn't oral sex foreplay? or maybe I'm crazy.

02-22-2003, 06:51 AM	#5
Junebug Minion of Satan Posts: 7,072	Holy Crap. So the school teachers are teaching their kids this? Can you even imagine? I mean, my gosh, condom talk is bad enough...what the crap do you do when your teacher is talking to you about oral sex. "see kids, holding hands is great, and heck, go for the anal/oral sex...just please don't have 'real' sex okay?" What the crap.

02-22-2003, 07:01 AM	#6
Lie Socialphobic Location: Goin' out West where they'll appreciate me Posts: 10,001	I'd be willing to bet that less kids will bother with oral sex and move right on to full-on sex because of that. Having that sort of thing detailed and encouraged in the classroom takes all the fun out of it. Part of the appeal of oral sex for kids is that it's hardly ever touched on by parents, teachers, clergy, etc. Because it's also a way to prevent pregnancy, there's a devious sort of satisfaction in it, like you found a loophole or something. Now that the pleasure of finding that loophole on their own has been taken away, they'll be more inclined to sit in the classroom thinking "Fuck you, I'm not doing THAT!" Yep, this just about ruins it. I'd expect the teen pregnany rate to triple by next year.

02-22-2003, 02:48 PM	#11
Smiley33 Minion of Satan Posts: 6,542	suckie suckie, five lollipop

02-22-2003, 03:31 PM	#12
Toast Apocalyptic Poster Location: Woodinville, Wa. Posts: 3,193	Any chance they could expierement with oral hygiene? end transmission.

06-30-2003, 04:13 AM	#15
Thoughtless Minion of Satan Location: As far as far can be. Posts: 5,199	hahahaha i thought to myself "wtf? that's an oldddd thread. dan is on the loose again"

06-30-2003, 05:07 AM	#16
dusty Minion of Satan Location: holding on. Posts: 5,932	what about disease?! are they teaching the children about aids, too?

06-30-2003, 05:16 AM	#17
strange_one No Chance Location: Here Posts: 13,788	no scouse_dave, this doesn't mean you can now legally blow boys under 16

06-30-2003, 05:17 AM	#18
wangcomputers Apocalyptic Poster Location: UK Posts: 4,058	blimey!!

06-30-2003, 05:46 AM	#19
Boycott Graceland Socialphobic Location: leprechaun julius Posts: 10,324	moves to england