handicapping 2016

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A woman over 70?

[MyOneAndOnly]

kinda wonder whether anybody over 70 would want to step up for an 8 yr shit storm like that.


Ronnie was that age, and he lost his mind

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Originally Posted by redbreegull

how could the Dem not be Clinton, unless she doesn't run? She's been a fucking boss in this administration

i don't think its the slam dunk people make it out to be. yeah her approval is sky high now but that's because she's not in any governing capacity. and remember as early as 08 she was jeered off stage because people wanted to turn the page from the past... she was the old guard, the establishment. and obama was allegedly the opposite

despite this, yeah, she would still likely win '16... but when the rubber hits the road and she's in office alot of her negatives are going to resurface, and you combine this with her age and the fact you've had 12 years of democrat rule, i'm almost certain she'd be a one-termer, making 2020 look pretty ugly for the downballot as well

of course we could throw around hypotheticals like this all day, but simply put, hillary 2016 may not be as good as it looks on paper

[redbreegull]

well who knows what will happen by 8 years from now but have you seen the opposition?

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

how could the Dem not be Clinton, unless she doesn't run? She's been a fucking boss in this administration

she might not run. she's fairly old. there are other capable women. etc.

i mean i would vote for her. absolutely. but i wonder if she'd get through it.

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I know next to nothing about her, but I remember an article in a (European) newspaper about cluster bombs and her not voting against it? Was that true or just bad journalism?

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

she might not run. she's fairly old.

wow you're right she'd be 69, she looks great for her age tbh

[Trotskilicious]

also nobody even really knew who Obama was in 2004

i guess that's why there's all this castro stuff, since the precedent was set at the 2004 convention by the young fella from the illest

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

also nobody even really knew who Obama was in 2004

i guess that's why there's all this castro stuff, since the precedent was set at the 2004 convention by the young fella from the illest

Actually that's a really good point. Hm.

I still think Deval Patrick's convention speech was really undervalued. Also can you imagine the white people freakout if we had two black presidents in a row?!

God that would be so awesome.

[Trotskilicious]

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