we have these things called "aircraft carriers"

[Starla]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

quick someone name a human being who has been responsible for bigger reductions in the amount of nuclear weapons in the world than barack obama

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...y-is-dangerous

[Starla]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

i bet that's a comfort to all of the Pakistani people he's slaughtering

Or the people still being imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay.

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Starla

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...y-is-dangerous

fucking idiotic

Originally Posted by Starla

Or the people still being imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay.

yeah, Obama definitely worked really hard to keep those guys in there

[Starla]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

fucking idiotic

I think it would be dangerous to close up the triad and get rid of the ICBMS. Why would we want to leave ourselves open to an attack?

yeah, Obama definitely worked really hard to keep those guys in there

After saying he was going to close it.

[redbreegull]

sometimes I cannot tell if you are a nimrod-esque ignoramus or a troll

[Trotskilicious]

and what more can be said about you

[Starla]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

sometimes I cannot tell if you are a nimrod-esque ignoramus or a troll

Then don't drop a link in a post for me to read if you don't want my opinions. All you can do in response anyway is "lol" or call me a troll.

[redbreegull]

nuclear weapons are good hurr hurrr

[MyOneAndOnly]

you two should just get a room and get it over with

[redbreegull]

wouldn't work, she's probably all puritanical about sex

[MyOneAndOnly]

I doubt that

[MyOneAndOnly]

the conservative chicks are always the best. plus they don't screw around and make you talk about your sissy feelings for an hour after

[redbreegull]

I've dated crazy right wingers, I think I attract them magnetically

[MyOneAndOnly]

they see that acoustic guitar and discheveled hair and they can't resist slumming it

[redbreegull]

opposites attract, etc.

in my experience disparate worldviews have very little bearing on the quality of an interpersonal relationship unless one of the parties involved wants to play missionary

[Starla]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

nuclear weapons are good hurr hurrr

This is what I'm talking about. Your stupid responses, rather than having a discussion about why you think there should be a reduction in arms. I think it's absolutely foolish to remove the triad, which has served as a deterrent from nuclear attacks here. Maybe it provides a false sense of security, but if it has acted as a successful deterrent, why remove them?

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Starla

This is what I'm talking about. Your stupid responses, rather than having a discussion about why you think there should be a reduction in arms. I think it's absolutely foolish to remove the triad, which has served as a deterrent from nuclear attacks here. Maybe it provides a false sense of security, but if it has acted as a successful deterrent, why remove them?

it hasn't acted as a deterrent and you are again demonstrating that you know nothing about what you are talking about. we came within millimeters of an actual nuclear war under kennedy because the truth is if someone irrational, say an extremist despot on a tiny island, really wants to hurt us they are going to do so regardless of retribution.

[redbreegull]

If the US has the most powerful military, no one will attack us!

it's possible this is a false sense of security, but at least I feel better regardless of the facts

[Starla]

Apparently Obama wants to keep around 400 warheads or so for deterrence. Are you against that too?

The nobel peace prize winner wants to go soft on nukes, but has no problem with killing innocent people with military drones in Pakistan.

America's deadly double tap drone attacks are 'killing 49 people for every known terrorist in Pakistan'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2Ale5LKp5


Just one in 50 victims of America’s deadly drone strikes in Pakistan are terrorists – while the rest are innocent civilians, a new report claimed today.


Your concern with reduction in nukes makes no sense to me, when shit like this goes on. But I guess these people are expendable to the cause, right?

[Future Boy]

is this where rbg tells you that Obama is the greatest bad president we've ever had

[MyOneAndOnly]

I love how republicans now hate Obama for most of the reasons they said they loved Bush.

[Future Boy]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[The Omega Concern]

originally posted by redbreedumbass:

it hasn't acted as a deterrent and you are again demonstrating that you know nothing about what you are talking about. we came within millimeters of an actual nuclear war under kennedy because the truth is if someone irrational, say an extremist despot on a tiny island, really wants to hurt us they are going to do so regardless of retribution.

And yet, one thing the cuban missile crises confirmed is that MAD works...and did so for the cold war game for decades.

You rip Starla for being ignorant but then give an example of an "extremist despot on a tiny island" like international geopolitics is some James Bond movie. That displays an ignorance so profound, even I hope its a put on for your sake.

But this lack of awareness to your lack of cognitive skills is common. That one day when you ripped people for flag worshiping while Obama worshiped himself with a personalized american flag exposed you for being an intellectual idiot at best. You have no self-awareness to your bias and how that clouds your objectivity.

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Starla

Apparently Obama wants to keep around 400 warheads or so for deterrence. Are you against that too?

The nobel peace prize winner wants to go soft on nukes, but has no problem with killing innocent people with military drones in Pakistan.

America's deadly double tap drone attacks are 'killing 49 people for every known terrorist in Pakistan'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2Ale5LKp5

Just one in 50 victims of America’s deadly drone strikes in Pakistan are terrorists – while the rest are innocent civilians, a new report claimed today.

Your concern with reduction in nukes makes no sense to me, when shit like this goes on. But I guess these people are expendable to the cause, right?

Yes, I am against keeping any nuclear warheads.

Yes, Obama's drone policy kills innocent people, I am also against that as I have made known on many occasions, it is my least favorite Obama policy. I don't believe we have any cause to be over there anymore, it seems like you are shaking the tree to see what will fall out. Keep in mind that 50 civilians for every combatant killed is probably in line with or less than the ratio of innocent people killed through the regular operation of the Bush wars. Every President kills innocent people. I'm against the drone assassinations but it puzzles me how people think this is like a really clever attack against Obama, cause other presidents haven't killed innocent civilians before. Really sets him apart, you know.

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

And yet, one thing the cuban missile crises confirmed is that MAD works...and did so for the cold war game for decades.

You rip Starla for being ignorant but then give an example of an "extremist despot on a tiny island" like international geopolitics is some James Bond movie. That displays an ignorance so profound, even I hope its a put on for your sake.

But this lack of awareness to your lack of cognitive skills is common. That one day when you ripped people for flag worshiping while Obama worshiped himself with a personalized american flag exposed you for being an intellectual idiot at best. You have no self-awareness to your bias and how that clouds your objectivity.

If you actually knew anything about the Cuban Missile Crisis, you would know it was not fear of destruction that stayed Castro's hand, so I could just stop addressing you at this point, but I guess I enjoy pain or something. The James Bond comment are you fucking kidding me, I was referring to FIDEL CASTRO, a REAL PERSON you fucking dipshit. I really want to know how you will feel when you are old and dying and literally nothing that your conspiracy-mongering idols spew has come to fruition. I would like to think that you will realize how stupid this shit is, but realistically you will probably just come up with some more delusional bullshit to explain away your cognitive dissonance

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

I love how republicans now hate Obama for most of the reasons they said they loved Bush.

Or how Democrats praise Obama for the same policies they fought Bush on?

I'm just glad we can all agree than Obama = Bush.

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

Yes, I am against keeping any nuclear warheads.

Yes, Obama's drone policy kills innocent people, I am also against that as I have made known on many occasions, it is my least favorite Obama policy. I don't believe we have any cause to be over there anymore, it seems like you are shaking the tree to see what will fall out. Keep in mind that 50 civilians for every combatant killed is probably in line with or less than the ratio of innocent people killed through the regular operation of the Bush wars. Every President kills innocent people. I'm against the drone assassinations but it puzzles me how people think this is like a really clever attack against Obama, cause other presidents haven't killed innocent civilians before. Really sets him apart, you know.



If you actually knew anything about the Cuban Missile Crisis, you would know it was not fear of destruction that stayed Castro's hand, so I could just stop addressing you at this point, but I guess I enjoy pain or something. The James Bond comment are you fucking kidding me, I was referring to FIDEL CASTRO, a REAL PERSON you fucking dipshit. I really want to know how you will feel when you are old and dying and literally nothing that your conspiracy-mongering idols spew has come to fruition. I would like to think that you will realize how stupid this shit is, but realistically you will probably just come up with some more delusional bullshit to explain away your cognitive dissonance

Hey you know Cuba never actually developed any nuclear technology right

[redbreegull]

I don't think you have any idea what is going on

I mean what the hell does that have to do with what we are talking about

They had the weapons

[Nimrod's Son]

Actually there were bases to launch warheads being built, all under Russian control and there is no evidence that any warheads ever made it to Cuba.

Study some history, whelp.

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

Or how Democrats praise Obama for the same policies they fought Bush on?

I'm just glad we can all agree than Obama = Bush.

Name the policies. My guess is that you'll repeat some kind of wingnut lie

Progressives have been very vocal about the handful of items that Obama has either dragged his feet on our reversed position. It's a short list. he's been very consistant on the issues he campaigned on

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

Actually there were bases to launch warheads being built, all under Russian control and there is no evidence that any warheads ever made it to Cuba.

Study some history, whelp.

this is completely wrong, maybe this is what they told you when you went to school in the 1960s. It has been known for years now that the Russians did in fact bring nuclear warheads onto the island. Furthermore, it was suspected for some time that a number of warheads completely overlooked by the US passed directly into Cuban hands, and this was finally corroborated with hard evidence this past year. Fidel Castro had literal control over 100 nuclear warheads, and he was infuriated that the Russians attempted to remove all the missiles from the island without his consent. Castro is on record as ordering the missiles to be launched should the US invade, which was the only tactic Kennedy believed would work. Thankfully, he was convinced not to invade right away, otherwise we actually would have had a nuclear war. Hooray MAD! How well you worked