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Old 09-16-2012, 12:48 AM   #1
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Default Feelings of worth...

Feelings of worth can flourish only in an atmosphere where individual differences are appreciated, mistakes are tolerated, communication is open, and rules are flexible - the kind of atmosphere that is found in a nurturing family.

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 12:58 AM   #2
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Surprisingly I find this to be pretty true. I mean who knows if it only flourishes in conditions like these, but that is a pretty good description of how to help it happen.

My three year old has decided to be a vegetarian and I've had to decide whether to lie to him about what has meat in it for the sake of convenience and potentially his physical development or whether to be truthful about everything and really let him be vegetarian. I've decided to do the latter and a lot of it is about teaching him to value his own ideas and opinions because they are his. I mean he'll have to learn to be respectful about differences of opinion...his brother and father are omnivores. But if it is important to him to not eat animals...I want him to know that I respect that preference because I respect him.

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 12:59 AM   #3
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I'M JUST A TEENAGE DIRTBAG BABY

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 01:21 AM   #4
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Feelings of worth can flourish only in an atmosphere where individual differences are appreciated, mistakes are tolerated, communication is open, and rules are flexible - the kind of atmosphere that is found in a nurturing family.
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Old 09-16-2012, 02:39 AM   #5
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Wheelings of Firth

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 03:00 AM   #6
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Surprisingly I find this to be pretty true. I mean who knows if it only flourishes in conditions like these, but that is a pretty good description of how to help it happen.

My three year old has decided to be a vegetarian and I've had to decide whether to lie to him about what has meat in it for the sake of convenience and potentially his physical development or whether to be truthful about everything and really let him be vegetarian. I've decided to do the latter and a lot of it is about teaching him to value his own ideas and opinions because they are his. I mean he'll have to learn to be respectful about differences of opinion...his brother and father are omnivores. But if it is important to him to not eat animals...I want him to know that I respect that preference because I respect him.
Holy shit.

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 04:05 AM   #7
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Have you tried hitting the child with a flip-flop?

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 04:28 AM   #8
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© Virginia Satir
Yay you use google. so proud of ya, champ

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 04:55 AM   #9
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Not the point. I don't like quotes that aren't marked as such.
I also can't access information through my "brain waves" like you, champ, I'm sorry.

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 05:08 AM   #10
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Not the point. I don't like quotes that aren't marked as such.
I also can't access information through my "brain waves" like you, champ, I'm sorry.
Are you dense on purpose, or did you grow to be like that?

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 05:24 AM   #11
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Are you dense on purpose, or did you grow to be like that?
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Old 09-16-2012, 06:15 AM   #12
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*slow clap*

valiant effort, pavementtune

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:31 AM   #13
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this seems pretty obvious to me but maybe it's from all the therapy

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:42 AM   #14
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Old 09-16-2012, 09:35 AM   #15
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Self of Steam
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Hydration of Spirit
To create steam, a water source is required.* In our lives, our spirit acts as a body of water – refreshing and replenishing us.* Our spirit, like water, requires constant attention and makes up most of who we are.* Without a sense of spirit, the life force within us suffers, much as our human body wanes without sufficient hydration.* Since the earth is comprised of mostly water, the physical source remains abundant.* Our invisible universe also consists of plentiful consciousness, or spirit.* Remembering to connect with the spirit within – and the endless supply of good that nourishes us merely by acknowledging through gratitude and growth - we fill our tank of possibilities with the fuel of spirit.
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The furnace
To make steam, water must be heated high enough to transform from its liquid state to gaseous state.* Similarly, to make “self-of-steam” we must heat our spirit with the passion of living.* Stoking the furnace of our desires and goals, we keep a constant flow of our spiritual fuel in the pipeline for our greater good.* When we energize our spirit enough to propel actions and hence, dreams, we move forward in momentum toward our goals.
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The movement
While moving forward stands as the optimal direction of spiritual movement, as we mature spiritually, we learn the power of choice offers insight and growth as well.* The mechanical force of steam powers a steam engine to move – it doesn’t dictate direction – it simply provides the energy for the conductor to move.* Our spiritual steam also gives us the life force we require to move from a standstill toward our highest and best potential, but in and of itself, does not guarantee forward momentum.* As individuals, using clearly defined passion and an understanding of self and relation to the Creator and the world around us, we use our free will to determine the speed and direction of our movement towards what we truly desire.
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Self-of-steam derives its power from that inner connection we cherish when we believe and know our true worth and role in life.* Just as no one can bestow upon you a sense of self, neither can anyone outside of you offer you a bundle of spiritual energy or synergy with which to impel you toward your highest potential.* It also stands to reason that no one can arbitrarily remove or reduce your sense of worth either!* You get to decide what you want in life. Loving the self and your aspirations provides you with an untouchable and unquenchable source of energy for positive movement.* Decide on the source for you steam, how much energy you require and the direction you want to go.* It’s all there inside of you – cooking up a wonderful life!

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 05:31 PM   #16
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My three year old has decided to be a vegetarian
lol, no he didn't.

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 05:32 PM   #17
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your three year old must be a prodigy in that they can make moral decisions thoughtfully and independently

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:39 PM   #18
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My other son learned to play chess at four, well enough to understand controlling the middle squares and setting up a Roman defense during set up. He's just beginning to get a good end game now, he just turned seven. Everybody who meets him asks about him being gifted, we haven't had him tested because i don't want to be one of those parents who is all like "my child is gifted". I do have bright kids.

It took me by surprise though. I was actually talking to my other son about blood and bone fertilizer when it dawned on the three year old that the animals have to die for us to have meat. He went quiet and then five minutes later burst into tears and cried fairly inconsolably for ten minutes. Over the next few days whenever he thought about it he'd cry again. I told him I felt the same way and I didn't used to eat meat because I felt sad about the animals dying. I told him if he wanted, he could do that too and we could do it together. Now he asks about everything we eat, where it comes from, if it is made out of an animal's body, etc.

Children are much brighter than mist people give them credit for.

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:54 PM   #19
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your son is three years old

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:58 PM   #20
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She needs to make sure he has good self of steam and not be oppressive to his blossming identity

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:59 PM   #21
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i thought she was a communist

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:10 PM   #22
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your son is three years old
Mozart was writing music by three. There's a huge variation in what children are like by this age. This is the same three year old who asked "who made God?" a few months ago.

He still wants to sleep in my bed and loves being read to and going to the park and playing with fingerpaint and playdough and French fries. He just also happens to understand where meat comes from and it happens to upset him.

I am a communist, a working class communist. Communism is all about workers gaining the self esteem to value their own ideas and interests enough to reject being exploited by capitalists. Pay attention, trots.

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:15 PM   #23
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:20 PM   #24
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i just can't even.

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:22 PM   #25
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I know.

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:23 PM   #26
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This isnt the oboard, bbdoll. This is where consequences are real

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:23 PM   #27
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vixnix you're delusional, working class delusional

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:25 PM   #28
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Go back to parramatta or whereever you're from

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:25 PM   #29
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do you slave away in the orchestral pit i forgot what is it that you do

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:39 PM   #30
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I don't even know what that means, Bonnie. OMG parramatta lol. I'm not from sydney. I don't get why you're being a bitch to me all of a sudden. Is it because boys didn't manage to notice that you were cute IRL the way that they do here so you had to pick a netphorian to marry, idk.

We're all delusional, trots. All of us. It's part of being human. If you stripped away the layers of your own delusion I think you wouldn't be here so much. You'd either have built an actual life for yourself or killed yourself. You too, Bonnie. I guess part of how you enjoy your own delusions is to try to belittle other people on the internet. Obviously I can understand that. I would think most people here could. Oh well. Time to hang up the laundry.

I don't have a paid job. I look after the kids right now and I was a full time student before. I'll go back to studying next year. I'm not so working class that I'll work in some job I don't like, just for money. I'd rather be broke.

 
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