they call it obamacare coz obama cares

[Travis Meeks]

Originally Posted by hnibos

And I personally don't want to be forced to buy anything.

Yeah but I don't want to chip in to pay for hospital visits by the uninsured so I don't really care about this. Slippery slope case to be made here but I personally don't mind this part.

[Travis Meeks]

Originally Posted by hnibos

It steals money from medicare, for one.

Yeah this part sucks. Government control on old people's medical services is no good.

[duovamp]

Yeah but you think government control on anyone's anything is no good...

[Future Boy]

it forces people to buy private insurance and the cost controls wont work

[Order 66]

Originally Posted by Travis Meeks

Yeah this part sucks. Government control on old people's medical services is no good.

the medicare 'cuts' wont really effect them though. mainly the insurance companies and hospitals

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ed-716-billio/

Ryan said President Obama “funneled” $716 billion out of Medicare “at the expense of the elderly.”:
MOSTLY FALSE

This gives a very misleading impression.

In fact, the law limits payments to health care providers and insurers to try to reduce the rapid growth of future Medicare spending. Lawmakers said they hoped the measures would improve care and efficiency. Those savings, spread out over the next 10 years, are then used to offset costs created by the law (especially coverage for the uninsured) so that the overall law doesn't add to the deficit. Ryan’s statement is exaggerated and we rate it Mostly False.

[Order 66]

this admin cares baby. we really do

http://media.hotair.com/wp/wp-conten...bikers2-lg.jpg

[Trotskilicious]

probably the most attention she's gotten in years

[Order 66]

uncle joe becomes a parody of a parody of himself and the prophecy fulfills itself

http://www.theonion.com/articles/bid...ago-but,29477/

[MyOneAndOnly]

I want Obama in charge

I want Romney for investment advice

I want Hillary to watch my back

I want Paul Ryan to disappear

I want to party with Joe Binden

[Travis Meeks]

There's a lot of good in Obamacare, some bad. Romney was an a-hole for flat out declaring that he was going to repeal it all but it looks like he's changed his stance on that.

[Order 66]

i like how he changed his stance like 4 times in the last 24 hours.

this campaign, guys. this campagn

[MyOneAndOnly]

If you don't agree with Romney, wait a few hours

[Travis Meeks]

he's a d bag no doubt, but I don't want to vote for Obama

[Trotskilicious]

[EyesOfAJackal]

Originally Posted by hnibos

And I personally don't want to be forced to buy anything.

Originally Posted by Travis Meeks

Yeah but I don't want to chip in to pay for hospital visits by the uninsured so I don't really care about this. Slippery slope case to be made here but I personally don't mind this part.

I don't buy this because as a society we don't turn people who can't pay away from emergency services at hospitals- somebody still pays for them, and that cost gets handed back to all of us who use healthcare services eventually.

We would pay a lot less AND give people a better, more humane quality of life if we paid up front for preventive services instead of responsively to complete disasters

Originally Posted by Travis Meeks

There's a lot of good in Obamacare, some bad. Romney was an a-hole for flat out declaring that he was going to repeal it all but it looks like he's changed his stance on that.

The Republicans in general are on this issue- I don't believe the "Repeal and replace" but for one second, they have all the political capital to gain by watching Obamacare go down in flames and nothing to gain from offering their own divisive plan on an incredibly difficult issue

[Future Boy]

Originally Posted by EyesOfAJackal

I don't buy this because as a society we don't turn people who can't pay away from emergency services at hospitals- somebody still pays for them, and that cost gets handed back to all of us who use healthcare services eventually.

We would pay a lot less AND give people a better, more humane quality of life if we paid up front for preventive services instead of responsively to complete disasters

one can agree with this and still be against this particular way of doing it.

[EyesOfAJackal]

Originally Posted by Future Boy

one can agree with this and still be against this particular way of doing it.

Yea I agree. Again, why I said that I didn't think Obamacare was the greatest, but I didn't believe the republicans would repeal AND replace with another proposal. And of course, that would sadly be our only other real option in this country right now

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by Travis Meeks

he's a d bag no doubt, but I don't want to vote for Obama

vote for Jill Stein of the Green Party. She's on the ballot in most states.

[hnibos]

Originally Posted by Order 66

this admin cares baby. we really do

http://media.hotair.com/wp/wp-conten...bikers2-lg.jpg

Looks like the guy to Biden's right is the BF.

[duovamp]

Their faces say they're accustomed to this. Or that they just want to eat in peace.

[Travis Meeks]

Originally Posted by EyesOfAJackal

I don't buy this because as a society we don't turn people who can't pay away from emergency services at hospitals- somebody still pays for them, and that cost gets handed back to all of us who use healthcare services eventually.

We would pay a lot less AND give people a better, more humane quality of life if we paid up front for preventive services instead of responsively to complete disasters

I think you misunderstood me, I am in agreement with you.

[jeff O)))]

Originally Posted by Order 66

this admin cares baby. we really do

http://media.hotair.com/wp/wp-conten...bikers2-lg.jpg

I love this man