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Old 09-05-2012, 09:32 AM   #1
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"Smoking healthier than gay marriage"


The head of the Australian Christian Lobby (ACL) Jim Wallace says smoking is healthier than the lifestyle that would be promoted by same-sex marriage.

Mr Wallace made the claim in a debate on marriage equality with Greens leader Christine Milne at the University of Tasmania today.

Answering a question from a student on the relevance of his views, he said health statistics among the gay community were worse than those for smokers.

"I think we're going to owe smokers a big apology when the homosexual community's own statistics for its health - which it presents when it wants more money for health - are that is has higher rates of drug-taking, of suicide, it has the life of a male reduced by up to 20 years," he told the audience.
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"The life of smokers is reduced by something like seven to 10 years and yet we tell all our kids at school they shouldn't smoke."

After the debate, Mr Wallace said the figures saddened him.

"But what I'm saying is we need to be aware that the homosexual lifestyle carries these problems and ... normalising the lifestyle by the attribution of marriage, for instance, has to be considered in what it does encouraging people into it," he said.

Mr Wallace said legalising same-sex marriage in other countries had not reduced risk factors for gay people.

"Where gay marriage has been introduced, or civil unions, it hasn't changed the level of suicide," he said.

"We have to accept the unfortunate levels of suicide, the unfortunate levels of excessive drug use (are) because of the nature of the lifestyle.

"I am very sorry for that. My heart goes out to those people. But it is a fact."

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Old 09-05-2012, 09:33 AM   #2
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Just for the record, there are crazy people outside of the USA too.

 
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Old 09-05-2012, 09:36 AM   #3
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what the FUCK

 
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Old 09-05-2012, 09:39 AM   #4
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paula whatshername "australia for australians"

don't let forners tell you their countries are sane, they aren't.

 
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Old 09-05-2012, 09:39 AM   #5
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lololo

 
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Old 09-05-2012, 09:53 AM   #6
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well maybe belgians because they have trippel.

 
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Old 09-05-2012, 09:55 AM   #7
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What's insane is that neither homosexuality nor smoking are illegal.

 
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Old 09-05-2012, 10:04 AM   #8
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paula whatshername "australia for australians"

don't let forners tell you their countries are sane, they aren't.
Pauline Hanson... yeah she was a card. A flaming fucking nazi joker card.

 
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Old 09-05-2012, 10:40 AM   #9
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Pauline Pantsdown is a drag queen whose taste in fashion parodies Hanson's, and is best known for the songs "Backdoor Man" and "I Don't Like It". The song "Backdoor Man" was a huge hit on the youth radio network Triple J after its release in 1997, being played almost hourly due to a massive number of requests, making it into the 1997 Hottest 100 list at number 5. However, less than a week after its release, Hanson obtained a court injunction against the song, claiming it was defamatory.

oh just lovely.

 
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Old 09-05-2012, 10:42 AM   #10
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In late 2004 during her election campaign, Hanson competed in the Australian Reality TV show Dancing with the Stars on the Seven Network. In the show a number of Australian celebrities compete against one another in ballroom dancing.

 
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Old 09-05-2012, 10:43 AM   #11
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basically as bad as when tom delay was on DWTS

 
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Old 09-05-2012, 10:47 AM   #12
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My favourite part of that story was when she declared that Australia just didn't appreciate her and moved to England to get away from all the lebbos and gooks.

 
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Old 09-05-2012, 10:48 AM   #13
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she's got an awfully lesbian style sense for someone who's anti-gay

 
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Old 09-05-2012, 10:54 AM   #14
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My theory is that she sees sex as purely perfunctory. She only ever did it so she could have three white children to offset ratio of white to non-white children in the country. She's like a well honed intolerance machine

 
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:22 AM   #15
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how come she didn't move here and run for senate in mississippi?

 
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:14 PM   #16
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the facts are still striking in relation to drug intake and suicides. I would say the drug thing is a hedonist issue, because not all gays are hedonist or drug abusers. You could say parts of the gay lifestyle attract a hedonistic culture which pushes all sorts of limits, but the phrasing here seems to suggest being gay leads to that. Its conflating the issues.

All sorts of people get into the drug lifestyle but whats interesting here is where these statistics are coming from: the gay community itself lobbying for a piece of the budget (i'll take the guys word for it thats where the stats are from). Those are the sober gays watching out for their own I would imagine. kinda admirable, but I think about other groups into the same drugs but are not represented in these statistics because they're not gay (implying they don't have sober organized friends lobbying the pols for money).

I know this aussie used these stats for the reason to claim the moral high ground saying its the gay communities own stats, but that doesn't reach far enough when dealing with drugs. It's a decent card to play in the argument to foment the right, but this argument is lame.

 
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What does gay even mean anymore? WHO CARES ABOUT LABELS!?

 
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