what are your thoughts on abortion?

[ohnoitsbonnie]

That common tansy stuff sounds real bad for our native ecology.

[ohnoitsbonnie]

Men are awful. That's all I am going to say about that

[Luke de Spa]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

i mean i dunno how often condoms break or whatever but if that happened to me and the woman decided of her own free will to keep it...well sir that is a can of worms isn't it?

not really

unless you mean in like the "evolution vs creationism, it's a matter of opinion isn't it?" sense

[Julianrquez]

Of course yes I have never supported bane of abortions and will never support. It is a curse killing your child inside your womb. Sometimes these are exercised forcefully and some are according to your choice. There should be community supporting this kind of customs.
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[bunny]

Originally Posted by Charmbag

etting pregnant (when you don't want to) fucking sucks, period

at least you don't get your period.

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by Starla

The acute oral LD50 (median lethal dose) in rats was reported as 1.15 g/kg and the acute dermal LD50 in rabbits as >5 g/kg. When tested on
dogs with intestinal helminths, tansy oil was toxic at oral doses of 300 mg/kg.

Oil of tansy causes convulsions and signs of poisoning (stated to be due to thujone) ******* vomiting, gastroenteritis, flushing, cramps,
loss of consciousness, rapid breathing, cardiac arrhythmia, enteric bleeding and hepatitis. Death occurs from circulatory or respiratory
arrest and degenerative organ changes, and human fatalities have been reported.


Being uncertain of how a tea is prepared, you'll still get some of the effects of thujone and cineole. Some herbs are stronger than OTC meds.

Yeah, that's a pretty low LD50 for an herb in addition to those side effects.

[Nimrod's Son]

Here's my real thought on abortion: if you're pro-life, you HAVE to be against abortion in the cases of rape and incest as well.

If abortion is murder -> murdering an unborn child is unacceptable in any circumstance.

Anyone who says they are conditionally pro-life is a bullshit artist.

[Eulogy]

that's not your real thought on abortion. that's your opinion of other people's thoughts on abortion (which is accurate i think). what do you think?

[bunny]

when a pro-life person thinks "rape is just another method of conception"
where can a reasonable discussion even begin?

[Trotskilicious]

i love how one of the biggest pro choice advocates on this board is a gay man

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

that's not your real thought on abortion. that's your opinion of other people's thoughts on abortion (which is accurate i think). what do you think?

I think the morning after pill is fine, but late term abortions are disgusting and should be illegal. I also think it's something that should be up to states to decide. I am in favor (strongly) of parental notification as it is with every other surgery or medical treatment.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

I also think it's something that should be up to states to decide.

so in other words you want roe overturned

[Trotskilicious]

i also think all laws should be left up to arbitrarily drawn governing sub-units

[Trotskilicious]

actually i'm more like let the counties make their own laws

[Trotskilicious]

grass roots you feel me?

[bunny]

if we're aiming to micromanaging the laws, can we just let each body decide what it wants to do with itself?

[Trotskilicious]

libertarianism, wow!

[pale_princess]

abortion is a right that should be accessible for all.

the "rape or incest" clause is bullshit because if that were the case, women would have to go through court to "prove" rape or incest, and it would likely end up not in her favor, putting her through even more pain and heartache.

people should have the right to safe and accessible abortions. if you don't like abortions, don't have one. but do not restrict others' right to choose.

terminating a pregnancy is not an easy decision that anybody takes lightly. i'm fortunate that i've never had to make the decision (yet), but if i mulled it over and decided that i needed an abortion, i would be happy that a safe and legal barrier-free method of obtaining one was a choice i'd have.

[Starla]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

Here's my real thought on abortion: if you're pro-life, you HAVE to be against abortion in the cases of rape and incest as well.

Anyone who says they are conditionally pro-life is a bullshit artist.

A woman can be pro life for herself but choose to end a pregnancy based on certain instances. ie: she becomes pregnant, develops eclampsia, and is advised that the only way to save her life is to end the pregnancy or deliver prematurely.

[hnibos]

That's selfish. She doesn't deserve or need to be a mother if she's going to be that way.

[Trotskilicious]

it should be the decision of the state anyway

[Trotskilicious]

here's what i really think about abortion

it should be entirely illegal, however, all children birthed will be raised in state run children's creches to prevent them from growing up to be dimwitted morons. they will be conditioned into a collective identity, individualism downplayed and their worth derived through the quality and dedication to labor.

[IAMTHEDOORWAY]

"Reckless in life, reckless in death." - Tipir Leuf Green