The Dark Knight Rises

[brutechinasky]

But tell me, is Transformers actually better than Full Metal Jacket or they suck pretty much the same?

[Trotskilicious]

i couldn't finish fmj after the boot camp part, but it definitely has more substance, artistry and intelligence in about 5 minutes than all three transformers films combined

[brutechinasky]

people just want to chill and have fun watching things explode
come on you can hate better than that

[Trotskilicious]

i don't really want to get into a whole discussion with you about this because you're obviously not bothering to think analytically about much of anything, in fact you're basically saying that's what jerks do

so enjoy your moron's society, i won't stand for it.

[brutechinasky]

Seriously, what are you , 14?

[Trotskilicious]

how can you not just fucking accept the fact that some people think more about what art says about and to society and think that a lot of the times it can have a regressive, detrimental effect on the minds of the public? transformers reinforces a dozen or more regressive, negative, imperialistic concepts at a very base level. If you can't fucking figure that out then you're being a lazy turd.

just shut the fuck up dude. you're the one telling me i'm supposed to respect other people's standards but you won't bother to respect mine.

[Trotskilicious]

i mean if you're not going to engage movies analytically what the fuck are you watching kubrick for in the first place

is it because they're "cool flicks bro"?

pfft.

[brutechinasky]

15, maybe.

[brutechinasky]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

how can you not just fucking accept the fact that some people think more about what art says about and to society and think that a lot of the times it can have a regressive, detrimental effect on the minds of the public? transformers reinforces a dozen or more regressive, negative, imperialistic concepts at a very base level. If you can't fucking figure that out then you're being a lazy turd.

but they also make you feel better about yourself, they have a positive effect

[brutechinasky]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

i mean if you're not going to engage movies analytically what the fuck are you watching kubrick for in the first place

maybe because his analyses and his vision are just a little more sophisticated than yours

just a little bit uh

[The Omega Concern]

originally posted by pavementtune:



Omega, the Oslo trial is already over, and I doubt that all the given testimonies were lies. It was ONE person, and I really don't understand, why so many people feel the need to create abstruse theories. Why is it so hard to believe, that one single person killed all those people in Aurora and Norway? In both cases the motive isn't understandable, no matter how hard you try to construct anything, that could explain what happened.

So you weren't believing the commanders assertions he didn't kill the number they said he did? He specifically challenged witnesses about that essentially denying he did any killings at certain areas of the larger scene.


That said, Breivik seems lucid and aware compared to Holmes. I'd guess Holmes was supposed to have died somehow in this exchange but something went wrong there.

Doesn't add up someone can have the kill rate he did with a weapon that jammed and somehow in the middle of that raging mindset suddenly 'break' character and surrender to police.

There is one lady who specifically mentions a 2nd person seemingly propping up a door. Haven't heard much about that since as well as the initial police SOP of not ruling out multiple shooters.

There is also the more recent report that Holmes was seeing the top Air Force Psychiatrist so the plot thickens as officially now the military is involved. Not to mention the Big Pharma's as right now many of their top lobbyist and lawyer types are wandering around Colorado to likely make the doctor for Holmes the scapegoat as opposed to the drugs she prescribed (prozac?).

what a clusterfuck.

[brutechinasky]

It's all Micheal Bay's fault
his damned movies fucked breivik's mind. poor lad

[Trotskilicious]

it's pretty obvious you're not very smart

[killtrocity]

fuck transformers

[pavementtune]

Omega, yeah, well, however "lucid" B. appeared to be during the Oslo trial, he also pleaded not guilty, because he proteced his country in the war with blaaablaabla, and claimed to be a knight, so...
What I read about Aurora is one big mess though, I wonder what they gonna do, if his psychiatrist keeps her mouth shut or if they can excuse her from her medical confidentiality.

[pavementtune]

Originally Posted by brutechinasky

It's all Micheal Bay's fault
his damned movies fucked breivik's mind. poor lad

You are not even remotely funny.

[The Omega Concern]

They may be hinging the trial on that fishy package that the FBI had to find for that Professor who supposedly received one from Holmes prior to the shootings. Even if you believe Holmes acted alone and deserves execution, if that package determines premeditation somehow you should consider how it was obtained and whether it was planted.

[pavementtune]

That's what I meant - I thought the package-professor IS his psychiatrist? - so she doesn't have to say anything about her patient or the package?

[The Omega Concern]

That's what the defense is pushing for atm...to get the names of the officers and officials involved in the seizure of that package. The confidentiality part is there to shield the Dr. of liability it seems more than anything. I'm not sure if they've made a motion to get the package stricken from evidence yet though, it doesn't really mention that here:


http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/nationa...im-in-the-past

[cocksure]

is transformers the film about toy cars

why would anyone over 5 want to watch that

[vbshlofbvgos]

nostalgia from the cartoon. the movies fail to provide that however. the first one didn't anyway. i didn't bother watching the others.

[brutechinasky]

Originally Posted by pavementtune

You are not even remotely funny.

cry me a river

[brutechinasky]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

it's pretty obvious you're not very smart

And it's pretty obvious you're a judgemental cunt
here's your last word, take it
i'm gonna ragequit this shithole

[Future Boy]

damn guys, its the internet

[cocksure]

Originally Posted by vbshlofbvgos

nostalgia from the cartoon. the movies fail to provide that however. the first one didn't anyway. i didn't bother watching the others.

i didn't know there was a cartoon. the trailers just looked extremely silly.

[The Omega Concern]

Interesting scenario here because there is some sketchy details about his living situation with roommates (who are they and why haven't they been heard or any media trying to track them down if they exist).


The suspension of disbelief here starts with the kidnapping. Get past that and this is in the realm of how MKultra operations take place with this particular episode going live but not without mistakes:

James Holmes received the prestigious National Institutes of Health Neuroscience Training Grant at the University of Colorado Anschutz Medical Campus in Denver. The $26,000 stipend paid his tuition for the highly competitive neuroscience program. Billy Kromka who worked with James for three months last summer in the Medical lab, said, “There’s no way I thought he could have the capacity to commit an atrocity like this”.

JAMES HOLMES WAS KIDNAPPED

O.K. ready? This site mentions a motive, which is interesting in itself and includes silencing the soon to be whistleblower father in a position to drop dime on the LIBOR banking scandal and the now proverbial 2nd amendment vs. U.N. treaty that's ready to be voted on soon.


here ya go:

Two months prior to the theater massacre, James Holmes’ entire world was turned upside down. That’s when two “Black Op” hitmen, entered his life and unravelled it using a drug called “SCOPOLOMINE” – also known as the “The Devil’s Breath”.

DRUGGED.

Scopolomine or “The Devil’s Breath” is colorless, odorless and tasteless and can be easily dissolved in drinks or sprinkled on food. Victims become so docile, they have been known to help thieves rob their homes and empty their bank accounts. Women victims have been drugged repeatedly over days and gang-raped or rented out as prostitutes.

In a common scenario, a person is offered a drink laced with the substance and wakes up miles away, extremely groggy and with no memory of what happened. The victim soon discovers that they have handed over jewelry, money, car keys, and sometimes even made multiple bank withdrawals to their assailants.

Scopolamine completely blocks the formation of memories making it impossible for victims to ever identify their aggressors. Under hypnosis, people can normally recall what happened to them…but scopolamine induces amnesia because the memory was never recorded,” said Dr. Camilo Uribe, the world’s leading expert on the drug.The drug depresses the cerebrum and destroys the power of reasoning’. There is no power to think or reason.

This is what happened to James Holmes. He claims he has no memory of the massacre or what happened. An employee at the Arapahoe County Detention Center, where Holmes is in an isolation cell, told sources: “He claims he doesn’t know why he’s in jail. He asked, ‘Why am I here?’

[The Omega Concern]

Now for the details of how it might of actually went down:

TIMELINE

June, 2011 – James Holmes enrolls in the neuroscience Ph.D program at the University of Colorado Denver.

May 21, 2012 – Two months before the massacre, James Holmes is befriended by BLACK OP HITMAN #1 who drugs him with scopolomine for the first time. The hitman takes the drugged Holmes back to Holmes apartment at 1690 Paris Street in Aurora. The hitman moves in with Holmes and stays undercover for 8 weeks. The hitman maintains Holmes in a drugged state and accesses his email and bank accounts.

May 22nd, 2012 – Hitman #1 buys a Glock pistol using James Holmes identification. Less than a week later, he upgrades to a shotgun. The following week, he buys an AR-15 rifle. Hitman #1 also purchases explosive materials and equipment to rig Holmes entire apartment with a complex series of booby traps.

June 7th, 2012 – James Holmes shows up on campus for an oral exam in a drugged fog and fails.

June 7th to July 2nd, 2012 – Using James Holmes email, Hitman #1 orders guns, rounds of amunition, magazine holders, combat vest, knife, mask etc. with expedited shipping costs through FEDEX and USPS. Holmes signs for the deliveries in a drugged state.

July 5th, 2012 – While James Holmes is drugged, Hitman #1 dyes Holmes’ hair red-orange and takes a photo of him. The hitman then creates a profile for James Holmes on the AdultFriendFinder adults-only website. When completing the profile for Holmes, the hitman doesn’t know that Holmes is 6’3″, so he mistakenly enters 6’0″.

The hitman uploads James Holmes photo (above). Only days before the massacre, the hitman makes an entry on the AdultFriendFinder website site. Pretending to be Holmes, he describes his penis as “short/average”. He uses the screen name “classicjimbo” with a message on top of the profile which reads, “Will you visit me in prison?”

July 18th, 2012 – Hitman #1 mails an incriminating notebook filled with gruesome sketches and details of the plans for the attack in the crowded theater. The notebook is in a package sent to a professor at the University of Colorado, where Holmes was a Ph.D. candidate until dropping out of school just prior to the killings. The package was delivered by the U.S. Postal Service on the Monday after the shootings which forced the evacuation of a campus building for 2 1/2 hours.

July 19th, 2012 – Hitman #1 drives the GETAWAY CAR to the theater and parks it at the side of the multiplex. He buys a Batman ‘The Dark Knight Rises’ movie ticket and enters Theater 9. He sits in the far right front theater seat near the emergency exit door. He receives and picks up a cell phone call from BLACK OP HITMAN #2, then gets up and goes over to the emergency exit door. A movie theater witness named Corbin Dates sees him talking on the cell phone and holding the exit door open with his foot. Hitman #1 jams the exit door ajar for Hitman #2.

[The Omega Concern]

Hitman #2 parks James Holmes’ white Hyundai Coupe outside the Theater 9 emergency exit door at the back of the multitplex. James Holmes is drugged and semi-conscious in the passenger seat next to him. Hitman #2 is wearing full protective combat gear. His guns, ammunition, gas can and mask are stashed in back of the car. He calls Hitman #1 on the cell phone and gets the “go ahead” signal.

Hitman #2 gets out of the white Hyundai, leaves the semi-conscious James Holmes (locked?) inside the car, then opens up the hatchback and arms himself with guns and amo. He straps on his gas mask, carries his weapons and gas cans into the theater through the exit door twenty minutes after the movie starts. Using the tactical manoevers of a trained commando, he throws a gas canister into the crowd and shoots one shot into the air. The shot scares people out of their seats making them easy targets.

[The Omega Concern]

Gunman #1 leaves the theater through the exit door and returns to the getaway car parked at the side of the multiplex.

For 90 seconds, Hitman #2 shoots hundreds of rounds of bullets into the crowd killing 12 people and wounding 58 others. He then turns and runs out the exit door, strips off his armour and leaves a trail of blood, guns and protective gear that lead to the white Hyundai where James Holmes is sitting in a drugged stupor.

The gunman continues wearing his gas mask to hide his identity from the eye of a rooftop security camera positioned at the corner of the multiplex. After passing under the security camera, Hitman #2 ditches the mask, turns the corner of the building, then ducks into the getaway car driven by Gunman #1. The Black Op hitmen speed away.

[Future Boy]

Alternate scenario: James Holmes does a bunch of stupid crazy shit because he's a fucking lunatic.

I unfortunately have no pictures or diagrams.