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...my perfect world would be one in which everyone has experienced the annulment of his or her ego. That is, our consciousness of ourselves as unique individuals would entirely disappear. We would still function as beings that needed the basics—food, shelter, and clothing—but life wouldn’t be any more than that. It wouldn’t need to be. We would be content just to exist. There’s only one problem in this world: none are content with what they have. We always want something else, something “more.” And then when we get it, we still want something else and something more. There is no place of satisfaction for us. We die with regrets for what we never did and will never have a chance to do. We die with regrets for what we never got and will never get. The perfect manner of existence that I’m imagining would be different than that of most mammals, who feed on one another and suffer fear due to this arrangement, much of it coming at the hands of human beings. We would naturally still have to feed, but we probably would not be the omnivorous gourmands and gourmets that we presently are. Of course, like any animal we would suffer from pain in one form or another—that’s the essence of existence—but there wouldn’t be any reason to take it personally, something that escalates natural pain to the level of nightmare. I know that this kind of world would seem terribly empty to most people—no competition, no art, no entertainment of any kind because both art and entertainment are based on conflict between people, and in my world that kind of conflict wouldn’t exist. There would be no ego-boosting activities such as those which derive from working and acquiring more money than you need, no scientific activity because we wouldn’t be driven to improve the world or possess information unnecessary to living, no religious beliefs because those emerge from desperations and illusions from which we would no longer suffer, no relationships because those are based on difference and in the perfect world we’d all be the same person, as well as being integrated into the natural world. Everything we did would be for practical purposes in order to satisfy our natural needs. We wouldn’t be enlightened beings or sages because those ways of being are predicated on the existence of people who live at a lower epistemological stratum.
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ILL KILL UR DOG
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u mad bro
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In a state of anhedonia, everything is revealed in its true purposelessness and inanity. You can argue with my use of “true” in the last sentence. But you’d also have to argue with spiritual traditions such as Buddhism, which have no use for anything. Buddhism isn’t my point of departure, but I’m in a similar place. I’m completely detached from anything, including myself and anyone around me. Doing anything just seems plain stupid, which in my opinion it ultimately is. This is the lesson of anhedonia, which is an eminently rational state. But if you’re going to do anything, you must be in an irrational state of emotion, and without this irrationality your life is just numbers: how long, how much, how many, how far. Emotion gives an illusory focus and meaning to our lives. When the feeling is gone, so is that sense. This sense is a motivator yet it also fools you into thinking that something is important when it’s not in the least important, except as an engine for your meaningless life. Also known as “melancholic depression,” anhedonia is painful, but that pain has nothing to do with not being able to respond emotionally to anything. The anhedonic can’t even conceive of wanting to have his emotions back. That, too, seems stupid and empty and useless. All you want is for the hurt to stop. But even suicide seems pointless. One would have to become emotionally energized past the anhedonia in order to conceive of suicide as a solution. I know that all of this is not possible for non-anhedonics to understand. I could say that it’s like being emotionally blind, deaf, dumb, mute, and totally paralyzed, but such similes aren’t effective unless you’ve gone through the experience yourself. But as bad as anhedonia may be, it’s a cakewalk compared to panic-anxiety disorder.
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huh
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dude stop posting unreadable blocks of text
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Minion of Satan
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Brazilian Blouselord
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My buddy Branden did this he first time he was on shrooms. He took a ton and had an ego death. He thought he was the universe, wasn't sure if he was alive, went into his parents' room, asked them "Am I dead?" and they took him to the hospital. Cool part is I believe for those moments he saw existence as it truly is, where you aren't a little individual but part of a whole. True story.
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Banned
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multiple parallel universes
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Brazilian Blouselord
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Like notes in a chord.
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Minion of Satan
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Banned
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i know this asshole hipster who likes to tell the story about his one trip on mushrooms that was a bad trip because he ate five grams or some ludicrous amount and he still seems to think mushrooms are the problem not the huge dosage his dumb ass took
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Apocalyptic Poster
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None of that is at all similar to Buddhism
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Banned
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i mean what kind of sneering hipster assclown has a bad time on shrooms jesus
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Apocalyptic Poster
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Who was it from here who took mushrooms and started a thread about how he converted to Islam?
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Banned
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lol mewl yes
ahahahah that was one of the best returns ever SO I WOKE UP AND THE KORAN WAS THERE AND LONG STORY SHORT I'M MAKING MY MILITARY FAMILY MAD BY CONVERTING TO GAY ISLAM or was it that he was gay when he left the board and then he came back talking about how abhorrent gayness is i think the latter is correct |
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Brazilian Blouselord
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Remember Banana looking at that rock in the woods? Was that Banana?
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Minion of Satan
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Personally I think everyone's consciousness should be melted into a giant ocean of Tang. But of course you could still JO and stuff.
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Banned
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Demi-God
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fucking amateurs
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Virgo
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Shut the fuck up!
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just read Krauss's "A Universe From Nothing"
it was coll originally given as a lecture.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo |
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Socialphobic
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I agree with this message
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Socialphobic
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i'm marinating a bag of shrooms rt now
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Socialphobic
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Okay I read it and actually I do not agree. I'm a fan of growth, and struggling promotes that. Also, without the need to personalize my surroundings and circumstances, my consciousness would surely dull. I'm not willing to lose individuality completely because I feel like a sense of self is tied to the level of happiness I can understand as a human.
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Immortal
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Demi-God
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well my perfect sunday would have to be relaxing with a nice sandwich watching the ol' television machine
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