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Old 12-25-2011, 01:29 AM   #31
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although my only weird thing about your own transition is that i hate men so much i can't believe you want to be one? we're so repulsive
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i shouldn't admit this but for a long time i thought about becoming a woman so i could be as far from my dad's attitudes and male bullshit as possible but the surgery to make it...real. it just isn't perfected and i don't know if it ever will be. i think this is one of the last things i've refused to post on here, although sadly there are more than i'm too ashamed of. but it would be weird because if i became a woman i would be a lesbian. which i guess its weird becaue i'm definitely straight as a male so why becaomse a transgender male to female (once they perfect it) just to have sex with the same wpmen (not that i'm getting sex as it is)
it's crazy shit, dude. being a straight guy is NOTHING like being a lesbian. no matter how "butch" or "stud" you are. night and day. so going the other way would be just as nuts.

i hit on a transgirl at the lesbo bar in SF a couple weeks ago. she was hella cute. if i didnt have to pour my cousin into a cab, i wouldve hollered for that number.

the dating transition is a trip.

and youre right. dudes are repulsive. i went from being an attractive girl to a geeky awkward little 27 year old man boy.

but then i fart and scratch my hairy belly and smile.

 
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Old 12-25-2011, 01:44 AM   #32
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I'm really not sure what those videos are supposed to prove. I'm sure he calls his grandma on a regular basis, treats his dog nice and cares about .
that had nothing to do with calling his mom (his grandma is dead) or treating his dog right or donating to animal charties

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltyWHKO60Lc

did you listen? look its a comedy show so he throws in some nonsense but. i'm saying he has this reputation as a total homophobe.
but that clip is all about how he wants homosexuals to be accepted and how he won't use the fag (ok the fag thing might be in other clips where he says he wont use it anymore or use gay as a pejorative) .

"we must hold gay people above all others. these people have been downtrodden. theyre beating, abused for their sexuality and it goes across race. gay people are the bastard of the world"

i mean hes right there. i'm saying hes a good person with good thoughts. he's talking about how gay people contribute to our culture in such great ways and that we have to make them acceptable so they can continue to contribute to improving out society. he's for gay marriage and he loves gay people, he loves his gay cousin, he loves having george takei on the show. even artie who everyone thinks is a catholic homophobe breaks in with "well god created homosexuals so how could it be bad in the eyes of god"

it was just one fucking example of him saying good things.

look he grew up. he doesnt throw baloney at strippers. how is it not a good thing that he's evolving. lets do a podcast charmbag. four hours on skype or ventrillo. lets see if during those four hours you dont say something that offends someone.

no he's not a feminist but we post on a board where people make rape jokes and throw out faggot even though theyre almost 30. a world where guys get to host the oscars then say rehearsing is for fags. women get beaten and rape every day and this guy is the devil? chris brown BEATS WOMEN UNCONCIOUS and has a career and howard sucks. tracy morgan says he'd stab his son if he found out he was gay and gets forgiven. howard does a 15 year old bit where he throws lunchmeat at a girls ass and he sucks oh know americas got talent is ruined

 
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that Sasha Grey clip is newer than the gay marriage one anyway - May '09. 2 years ago he was a full blown misogynist and cashing in on it. but sometimes he's really nice so I mean women can just get over it I guess
like i've said in recent years hes talked about trying to cut down on bitch and cunt etc. hes' 57 fuckin years old raised in a racist household. how do you not give credit to someone for trying to change?

the worst thing in the sasha clip is baba booey saying "oh she's one of those porn starts that tries to be smart" which was awful because she really is smart.

and the worst thing he said about her ridiculous flag thing was honestly kind of right. like how would the Palestinians react to a porn star like sasha grey hanging out in palestine where women wear veils and burkas or whatever and are run by Hezbollah
what did he even say that was that misogynist? i mean he was more angry about the treatment of women int he arab world. she was coming on his COMEDY show to attack him and call him a racist so he got mad and attacked her. why not? what is he cashing in on? he wasn't interested in having some damaged self-serious porn star try to show the world how racist he is cause he's a jew who backs Israel
(which i don't agree with)

you really don't listen to the show and i don't believe you've listened to his porn interviews. they get creepy at times but its mostyl the way he tries to get them to open up about their childhood and expose the trauma they went through and it mostly comes off like he feels bad about how women get into the industry

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Old 12-25-2011, 01:49 AM   #34
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fuck michael vick.
really.

 
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Old 12-25-2011, 01:57 AM   #35
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i'm sure he threw out some bitches and cunts and stuff in this two year old clip (again he's curbing his use of those words) but take out the "slurs" and what is wrong with this? the whole thing was howard does a comedy show and he's not interested in someone whose work he isn't familiar with coming in with a palestinan flag to tell him that he's a racist zionist pig
i mean the guys jewish
he's said critical stuff about what israel does in the past
like a week after 9/11 he said stuff about turing the arab countries into the parking lot. which was partially a joke and out of anger. i mean he was saying that in the immediate aftermath of the attack. lots of people were angry like that especially people in NYC. He's since softened, he's been a long advocate for getting out of the Iraq war and

look i dont expect you to like him
hes just not a monster
and i don't want you to think i'm a monster for enjoying a fucking comedy show cause sometimes during a four hour show he might say something that offends you
I don't really care about the politics or whether Sasha Grey was being ridiculous. just listen to his words

she's a fucking porn star...getting talked down to by a porn star *IMAGINE*
she sucks cock for a living and she's gonna sit there and lecture me

this guy built his reputation in part through making porn stars the butt of a long joke, but no he really respects them and cares about their inner lives...

how absurd that a porn star has an opinion. sucking dick and being a complex human being are incompatible in this guy's world


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that had nothing to do with calling his mom (his grandma is dead) or treating his dog right or donating to animal charties

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltyWHKO60Lc

did you listen? look its a comedy show so he throws in some nonsense but. i'm saying he has this reputation as a total homophobe.
but that clip is all about how he wants homosexuals to be accepted and how he won't use the fag (ok the fag thing might be in other clips where he says he wont use it anymore or use gay as a pejorative) .

"we must hold gay people above all others. these people have been downtrodden. theyre beating, abused for their sexuality and it goes across race. gay people are the bastard of the world"

i mean hes right there. i'm saying hes a good person with good thoughts. he's talking about how gay people contribute to our culture in such great ways and that we have to make them acceptable so they can continue to contribute to improving out society. he's for gay marriage and he loves gay people, he loves his gay cousin, he loves having george takei on the show. even artie who everyone thinks is a catholic homophobe breaks in with "well god created homosexuals so how could it be bad in the eyes of god"

it was just one fucking example of him saying good things.

look he grew up. he doesnt throw baloney at strippers. how is it not a good thing that he's evolving. lets do a podcast charmbag. four hours on skype or ventrillo. lets see if during those four hours you dont say something that offends someone.

no he's not a feminist but we post on a board where people make rape jokes and throw out faggot even though theyre almost 30. a world where guys get to host the oscars then say rehearsing is for fags. women get beaten and rape every day and this guy is the devil? chris brown BEATS WOMEN UNCONCIOUS and has a career and howard sucks. tracy morgan says he'd stab his son if he found out he was gay and gets forgiven. howard does a 15 year old bit where he throws lunchmeat at a girls ass and he sucks oh know americas got talent is ruined
you missed my point. I'm saying whatever else he does, be it advocating for gay marriage or calling his MOM (thanks for that bit of trivia), doesn't change what he does to women. I am pretty sure I never said he's evil incarnate. it is just laughable to me that by being a decent human being in some aspect of his life, I'm supposed to be really impressed with that.

 
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Old 12-25-2011, 01:59 AM   #36
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why am i defending myself for listening to a fucking comedy show that is the only thing that gets me through the day charmbag? if you don't like me anymore cause of one thing i enjoy then fuck you. like everyone is going to have the same tastes as you. i already said there's stuff that goes on on the show i don't like but when they don't have guests and they're just shooting the shit he's always bashing republican idiocy and during the news he's constantly disgusted by hearing the horrble things robin reports that happen to women and children

he's also a guy who goes to multiple therapy sessions a week and talks about how proud he is of his poet daughter
goddammit fuck it
fine i'm a scumbag for being entertained by the most successful radio show ever
i have no friends. listening to these guys for five hours a day i feel like i know them and as someone with no friends i need that. they're funny and i tune out when i don't like the porn interviews or farting stuff. he's a bright guy with a lot of interesting things to say and you just saw blurred boobs on the e-channel and decided he was scum

AMERICAS GOT TALENT 2012 FOREVER

 
Old 12-25-2011, 02:06 AM   #37
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I didn't know it was so important to you. but look I'm not making some huge judgement on his fans. lots of people I like seem to enjoy Howard Stern. it's just a bummer to me.

 
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I don't really care about the politics or whether Sasha Grey was being ridiculous. just listen to his words

she's a fucking porn star...getting talked down to by a porn star *IMAGINE*
she sucks cock for a living and she's gonna sit there and lecture me

this guy built his reputation in part through making porn stars the butt of a long joke, but no he really respects them and cares about their inner lives...

how absurd that a porn star has an opinion. sucking dick and being a complex human being are incompatible in this guy's world
ok i'll try again
the whole reason she wanted to come on was to attack him
so he attacked her

he had never heard of sasha grey before and all of a sudden she wants to come in and call him a racist and ruin his show that is supposed to be comedic? it wouldnt have been good radio. he's a broadcaster. people turn down guests on letterman and leno it just since its tv the booking process doesnt get talked about on air. she would have come in and told him he's a racist and tried to start an argument and the first thing he said was he wasn't interested in that.

he doesn't make the porn starts the butt of jokes outside of playing clips where people cum really loudly and it does sound funny.

also don't you hate porn anyway? why do you care if he blows off sasha grey. people who suck dick come on and give their opinions all the time. he has tons of female guests (straight) who come one and give opinions and then also talk about sex. he doesn't look down on them because they have sex and blow guys. he takes george takei seriously and he's a homosexual who often chimes in with his political opionins and howard listens to that even though he's abig fan of "sucking dick"

you really, really have never listened in depth.

"but no he really respects them and cares about their inner lives..."

i don't know about carying about their inner lives, but he has a fascination with how women get into porn. i'm repeating myself but when they arent talking about double anal and gross shit he grills them on their relationship with the parents and tries to find out what lead them to this career and if their parents disown them or are ok with it and how does she reconcicle being in this industry where some strange creepy guy comes in and fucks them just to get pretty middling pay. his thing is he likes to analyze people and try to understand their motivation. he always tells them he doesnt understand how they can do a job getting fucked by different men in different positions and orifices and he wants to know the psychology behind it because their lives are so the opposite of is. Yeah he makes jokes sometimes but he's a comedian and he has an audience that expects jokes. He's a very empathetic person except when he yells at his staff which is really just something that happens on air because it's funny. There are seriously times during these interviews where he says "I'll really feel bad for you" or "I don't believe you can really love anal or whatever that much and need it that much, I feel like you should get help, see a sex therapist maybe"

but these are damaged women so they of course wouldn't do that but he does always try to throw that in there. when women describe the things they have to do in porn howard and the other guys sound like they're going to throw up. he has great times with gay women like rosie o'donnel ( a personal friend) and. ok i'll admit i don't know what you meant with your chaz comments. chaz was scared to come on and admitted that cause he thought howard would attack him and call him he/she and all kinds of shit and he was totally respectful and she had a good time. he encouraged a staffer to come out of the closet and said staffer wrote an article in the advocate where he thanked howard for his support. he has issues, yeah. i don't know why people don't get credit for working on them. like that idiot (and you are just stupid slunken, i'm not holding back on here anymore) slunken

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so you and howard are trying to become better people. big fucking deal. that's what everybody should be doing every day. kudos to you. how noble. now what?
look how dumb this clown is. so because people should try to become better people talking about the ways they are doing it gets you a "big fucking deal" and "kudos" and "how noble"

like so should i know try to improve myself? is that what you're saying? what you posted means nothing. it was more idiotic than billy madison's monologue. no points, jerkoff.

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how absurd that a porn star has an opinion. sucking dick and being a complex human being are incompatible in this guy's world
he has had "smart" (the quotes werent to say they aren't smart) porn stars in the studio who sound convincing and offer opinions and he showed them nothing but respect.

this one imbecile (who i'm a fan of) only had one angle which was to attack howard. so he got pissed. she wanted to tell him he's a racist and get into an argument which doesn't fit into the show (comedy again), the fuck does sahsa greay have to do with Palestine anyway? who even cares? and plus sure she's smart but dont you think getting constant anal in movies and cumswapping with story is really something helping women's causes? like a few lines in this clip were about porn being empowering. you constantly make fun of the idea of porn being empowering. and the whole thing he was mentioning porn specifically. he has no problem interviewing women who cumswap and do double anal but they don't come to ruin his show with some foreign affairs argument

ugh

god i have to stop
this sucks
i like charmbag a lot and wanted to be aim or gchat buddies with her
but now i just feel like a piece of shit
i've been listening since 1998

maybe i'll just cancel and just watch him on america's got talent where all hes gonna do is judge if people have talent or enough promise to go through

 
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how about this gem


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ok i can't really defend this one much
i do think she got offended over something stupid
like she said she had a black boyfriend and earlier she had said she liked like ho-hos
and artie said "so you like a lot of black things that shoot out cream"
after he said that she just shut down and ruined it all and i did think they went too far with having artie call in as her boyfriend after she got kicked out of the studio

plus she was 19. when i was 21 i thought it was hilarious. but like i said i'm evolving. shit happens during a 35 year career
the show as is is way different. like i doubt nimrod and banana listen anymore thank god
most of their celebrity fans are ira glass, paul feig (the office and bridesmaids director), kristen chenowerth who is a sensitive born again christian, john goodman, sarah silverman, jimmy kimmel, john tesh of all people (another born again)like theres some clip where gloria steinam says something nice about him

ok i'm done man
he's done stuff that's offensive and i get it.stuff that i don't like. this only became an issue cause i don't want you to not like me anymore because its so hard for me to keep friends and you're like the only person who gives me rep on my best posts like when i called agenda suicide lil miss thing for saying its cool for people to beat their kids in public

i will say when i do my podcast with shaunna and my best friend kyle i wont bring strippers into it to talk about how they love anal

 
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actually now i dunno if charmbag would wanna talk to me now anyway
reading this thread
no wonder the rad-fem blew me off
all i do is insult people by accident
wheni first met geo apparently whenever they asked me if i wanted to do something i just went "whoa what the fuck no" or something and they thought i was mean

then living in chicago i think i did the same to liz and i would drive her sometimes and she'd be all scared cause i'd keep muttering that every other car was a jerkoff or a cocksucker or a whore with no mother

and i never drove her more than a few blocks and that comes out me

 
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i kept calling the couple girls i've dated cunts but that was years ago before i tried to cut back

 
Old 12-25-2011, 03:03 AM   #42
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i guess i call people at work dumb...
how could you not know how to do that?!

i wish my vocal chords would die

 
Old 12-25-2011, 03:17 AM   #43
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charmbag can we be real-time chat friends? with my women's studies course i'm worried about not knowing anyone who could help me and get over my inability to not stick jokes into papers
not anti-women jokes i just have trouble being serious
you're the only feminist i personanly know (since the last one cut contact the day before a date) and i just want to make sure my papers aren't awful
i can do the reading and the short assignments but the long essays intimidate me. i hate being timed on in-class essays

i don't even get them...if i write a brilliant essay but i take 10 minutes too long it gets thrown out? how long did fuckin 100 Years of Solitude take to write. I'm sure he didn't write it in class in some Colombia university.

 
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i get why order66 doesnt want internet drama anymore
i like her and think shes funny and i agree with her on so much but i mention i love this show and it all g oes to shit
all my friends are dead like that album cover

 
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howards a big fan of rachael maddow because he thinks she's a real smart dynamic personalioty

 
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i'm trying to become a more terrible person

 
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Old 12-25-2011, 06:08 AM   #47
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charmbag i dont need you to like him
or listen
but i wish i was better at finding clips illustrating how he's evolving as a person
he really drags people in just to get naked and he's basically said when he does its to keep his old trucker fans happy. he hates that his daughters and ex-wife and current wife hated it but in 1984-1994 it got huge ratings. THen he went into therapy and realized he had to calm down for the sake of his daughter and wife and really the whole best part of the show is when he talks about his life and listens to the knews. he never would have said that about sahsa grey if she didnt want to comein and attack him.

i'm sorry
it's late
this show means everything to me and i couldnt get through work otherwise. i've listened since scott the engineer did push-ups so 15 years which is more than half my life. the porn stars...ignoring my explanation of how the interviews actually go if you listen to them (again, you lied. you never have. you blatantly lied about that.) but hey go listen to dr. laura and watch cathouse on hbo and ad every network show including HBO and A & E where ugly guys get to be witht he most beautiful womenand ignore the one entertainment show (not counting maddow or olberman since they're political opinion entertainment shows that disgrace themselves by pretending to be news that's fine by me. god forbid a guy has to fill up 4-5 or more hours a day trying to entertain the ENTIRE country and he does some stuff wrong. even now with the penthouse pet thing last week, but penthouse is a paid sponsor so they have to bring her in.

fuck feminists, i changed my mind
you'll turn any non-issue into an issue. everyones being patriarchal and keeping women down. feminists shame women who express their sexuality while claiming to be liberated
no wonder ryan gosling loves being a feminist
i'm sure all the female politicians and artists of all kinds that go on the show feel howards holding them back by being a pig
i take back wanting to talk to you
you're a phony
get out

you're bonnie without the sadistic, paranoid, and antisocial personality disorders or the destructive narcissism

you're downgraded frin 8.6 tO 2.4

you can admit to being or work harder the next few months and maybe your offical rating will be back up into the 5ws

 
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i'm trying to become a more terrible person
not much room left there

 
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i don't know why people don't get credit for working on them. like that idiot (and you are just stupid slunken, i'm not holding back on here anymore) slunken



look how dumb this clown is. so because people should try to become better people talking about the ways they are doing it gets you a "big fucking deal" and "kudos" and "how noble"

like so should i know try to improve myself? is that what you're saying? what you posted means nothing. it was more idiotic than billy madison's monologue. no points, jerkoff.
what i'm saying is that we live in a world where you are punished for shitting your pants. you're not rewarded for not shitting your pants.

with your logic you can rape one woman a year and then cry to the judge "but what about the 360-some women i didn't rape???"

 
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but what do i know i'm an idiot stupid dumb clown

 
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also i believe that self-improvement should be a personal journey full of humility and quiet reflection. not a parade-throwing air-horn blasting block party.

fuck you.

 
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no you're just dumb and james joyce can't figure out your points and if he did he'd realize that no you really do say nothing
fuck you and your limited 7"s

 
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merry christmas to you too. i didn't think you'd be up this early.

 
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Old 12-25-2011, 12:29 PM   #54
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Now now, slunken.

 
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i'm just generating content

 
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Old 12-25-2011, 01:41 PM   #56
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life is basically the ongoing struggle to be a good person

at least a chunk of it

or maybe it's just me

 
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I think some people don't care about that.

 
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i certainly don't

 
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Old 12-25-2011, 10:42 PM   #59
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I love Howie and respect his heart and mind and his views on almost everything. I am proud of listening and I don't ever feel the need to justify my fandom or defend Howard himself to misinformed people....people who don't listen will never get it and I'm fine with it.

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