help me understand Jesus

[Mooney]

agnosticism is a really shitty term. damn you, huxley! in some sense we are all some sort of agnostic because i can't prove/disprove the existence of a deity, and neither can you.

[dean_r_koontz]

exactly.

[slunken]

agnostics are lost in someone else's narrative

[Eulogy]

people who hate dawkins for no reason are way worse than dawkins

i thought his moth metaphor was fucking spot on.

[great poster]

thanks, just what i needed!!!

[dean_r_koontz]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

people who hate dawkins for no reason are way worse than dawkins

i thought his moth metaphor was fucking spot on.

what better reason than him being an obnoxious little man with a puffed up sense his own importance. maybe if he spent his days in the lab instead of on book tours he'd actually discover something.

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by dean_r_koontz

even Richard Dawkins has admitted that he's an agnostic.

please provide a reference to Dawkins claiming he is an agnostic. Because Dawkins is an outspoken atheist. After all, he wrote a book called The God Delusion. And he regularly refers to himself as an atheist.


"We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further." - Richard Dawkins

Originally Posted by dean_r_koontz

what better reason than him being an obnoxious little man with a puffed up sense his own importance. maybe if he spent his days in the lab instead of on book tours he'd actually discover something.

you have to be kidding. He's published many books and papers on evolutionary biology. He coined the term "meme" and developed the principles of gene centric evolution. He's held positions at Oxford. etc. etc. etc.

The guy is prolific.

[cork_soaker]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

He's published many books and papers on evolutionary biology. He coined the term "meme" and developed the principles of gene centric evolution. He's held positions at Oxford. etc. etc. etc.

but has he done some drinking with a LOT of professional cyclists (with whom he is friends)?

[cork_soaker]

checkmate.

[dean_r_koontz]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

please provide a reference to Dawkins claiming he is an agnostic. Because Dawkins is an outspoken atheist. After all, he wrote a book called The God Delusion. And he regularly refers to himself as an atheist.


"We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further." - Richard Dawkins



you have to be kidding. He's published many books and papers on evolutionary biology. He coined the term "meme" and developed the principles of gene centric evolution. He's held positions at Oxford. etc. etc. etc.

The guy is prolific.

he's like a poor mans theoretical physicist and i don't like them either generally. he should do some real science, you know sit in a lab for 20 years or so. obviously his ego is way too huge for this.

[slunken]

book sales r good tho no worries

[Dead Frequency]

I'm gonna file this thread under who da fuck cares.

[cocksure]

Originally Posted by exactlythesame

um. i was giving examples of protestant denominations.

protestant religions cover the vast majority of the rest of christianity, but there are some religions that claim to be neither protestant nor catholic. they generally eschew the apostolic succession and do away with the practices of catholics, but retain the belief in the trinity and hellfire as doctrine. here are are a few different types in that category which you've likely encountered:

not sure what you're saying here. 'the distinction between tradition and scripture is not clean-cut' = what i was trying to demonstrate with that paragraph.

i thought you meant that it was somehow possible for a religion to "be like a book" or that this was the ideal of all of christianity. both of these are false, imo.

[SalemMass]

I'm an agnostic atheist. Most atheists are.

[exactlythesame]

Originally Posted by cocksure

the idea goes like this:

> protestant religions are the vast majority of denominations outside of catholicism and orthodoxy.

> there are a few that claim to be neither.

> that being said, here are some examples in the category of protestantism.

sorry for the confusion

[Eulogy]

why don't you give us examples of the ones that claim to be neither

that would be more helpful

[exactlythesame]

church of latterday saints

[vixnix]

Coptic
Eastern orthodox

[slunken]

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by exactlythesame

church of latterday saints

oh

one

good job

[MyOneAndOnly]

it can be argued that LDS is not a christian denomination

I won't argue that, though. cause I don't reall care. but I'm just sayin'