See ya, Herman

[Eulogy]

bush/obama tax cuts

[Order 66]

extending bush tax cuts as a compromise avoid government shutdown draws parallels to bush... how?

[Order 66]

and do you know anything about the actual tax cuts under obama? they're actually quite different than bush

[Eulogy]

the top marginal tax rate for the top 2% is different?

news to me. do go on.

[Order 66]

no those were tax cuts from the bush administration. i know its hard to grasp but bear with me

the middle class pays about $1000 less in taxes under obama as part of the said compromise. and before that the stimulus package included tax cuts for small businesses, home buyers, college students... pretty much like 99% of americans. i don't think that falls in line with bush's tax policy

[Eulogy]

i was referring specifically to the "bush tax cuts" as they are known colloquially that obama then adopted in the name of (a laughable attempt) at compromise

[Eulogy]

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...x299-30860.jpg

and i wonder what's different about the debate now?

oh that's right.

nothing. except more republicans in congress now. lol.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Order 66

no those were tax cuts from the bush administration

and no shit. that's why they aren't different.

[duovamp]

Saw Cain's book about his journey to the White House at Barnes and Noble today... Kekekekekeke.

[Order 66]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

and no shit. that's why they aren't different.

erm actually i just explained why they are. but that's cool you'll probably get it someday

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Order 66

erm actually i just explained why they are. but that's cool you'll probably get it someday

the tax cuts i was referring to were the ones that were extended. i asked how the marginal rate for the top 2% was different and you didn't explain shit because it isn't any different.

jesus christ.

[Eulogy]

how is obama extending a bush policy (that he actively campaigned against) being anything like bush?! CRAZINESS.

[Order 66]

well for one because the tax cuts were extended by way of congressional blackmail rather than it meshing with obama's tax policy. i seriously think you're smart enough and already know that. but for the sake of argument lets say obama's all gung ho about the bush tax cuts, or he's too weak to let them expire, whatever. okay then its only fair look at the rest of the tax cuts throughout the obama administration. do they parallel with bush's tax policies in any way?

that's the point i'm making. if obama is black bush then why isn't he trying to privatize social security or do something similar? why is he forcing insurance companies to to take in only 30% of their profits? why did he let france lead in a NATO offense. i could of course go on and on and i think it's intellectually dishonest to say he's just like bush. to say so is just cherry picking a few things

[Eulogy]

oh my god once again i'm on your fucking side i'm just telling you that acting like obama has been nothing but super awesome makes you seem as disingenuous as those calling him black bush.

the truth lies somewhere in between.

but when you ask for a parallel to bush and i point to one specific bush policy (that obama actively campaigned against) that obama extended without much of a fight, it's sort of silly to protest it so much based on the entirety of tax policy considering that wasn't what i was talking about.

[MyOneAndOnly]

Remember when Cain was gonna be President?









Good times.

[Eulogy]

Congressional blackmail with democratic majorities in both houses

pretty pathetic no matter how you slice it.

[Order 66]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

oh my god once again i'm on your fucking side i'm just telling you that acting like obama has been nothing but super awesome makes you seem as disingenuous as those calling him black bush.

the truth lies somewhere in between.

but when you ask for a parallel to bush and i point to one specific bush policy (that obama actively campaigned against) that obama extended without much of a fight, it's sort of silly to protest it so much based on the entirety of tax policy considering that wasn't what i was talking about.

i don't think i've said anything qualitative about obama this entire thread. everything i've said is simply facts iirc. my point isn't obama = awesome; bush = BAD. just speaking objectively how dissimilar they are.

[Future Boy]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

just give this thread a read http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=165812

oh there it is

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Order 66

drone strikes are the basis of modern military involvement. so to cease them would be to essentially cease all operations abroad, which is a whole nother can of worms.

are you trolling

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Future Boy

oh there it is

hey at least obama concern's paranoia was right about something once

[Order 66]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

are you trolling

no. drones are how virtually all military objectives are accomplished now. if we should end all involvement abroad right now right away then that's another argument. but without drone strikes most soldiers (in afghanistan in particular) are as good as dead

[Trotskilicious]

no it's the same argument

[Trotskilicious]

wait for it...wait for it...

[Order 66]

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[MyOneAndOnly]