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Old 12-01-2011, 10:31 AM   #31
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If you don't believe billy, take Jimmy's word for it.




He was clearly referring to the first rehearsals.

 
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:54 AM   #32
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The quality of that video is too poor to judge the performance of that song. The tease they did on the American tour was pretty cool though.

 
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:27 AM   #33
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The tease did sound good live. I don't understand why they weren't playing the whole song on the US tour. would have been better than listening to them just jam like that.

 
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Old 12-01-2011, 12:05 PM   #34
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listen to shows from 99 ... if you can hear darcy's bass you are a super human.

 
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Old 12-01-2011, 12:35 PM   #35
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Come on man, Mike totally butchered this song. And unlike Jimmy he has no real driving pulsating sound... It really detracts from the charm of what made the old songs great.
When they started playing this at Brixton (after an entirely-underwhelming Ruby), I found myself shaking my (lowered) head in dismay. It was embarrassing, and painful to hear. I was trying to keep an open mind about Mike, but his drumming ruined the old songs. I was praying that they didn't attempt Tonight, Tonight; when I heard they'd played it on the second night I actually felt relieved to have escaped.

 
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Old 12-01-2011, 12:51 PM   #36
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I can hear d'arcy's bass. you must have a shitty copy of the show. mike sucks and jeff sucks and if you think these musicians are any good then you have zero knowledge about what talent is.
yeah it is not possible to hear darcy's bass in 1999, she was barely standing and you could only hear iha when he would fuck up ... which was on almost every song. yeah that is talent

 
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Old 12-01-2011, 12:53 PM   #37
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When they started playing this at Brixton (after an entirely-underwhelming Ruby), I found myself shaking my (lowered) head in dismay. It was embarrassing, and painful to hear. I was trying to keep an open mind about Mike, but his drumming ruined the old songs. I was praying that they didn't attempt Tonight, Tonight; when I heard they'd played it on the second night I actually felt relieved to have escaped.
i feel sorry for you

 
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Old 12-01-2011, 12:55 PM   #38
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Awesome, lala neg-repped me for that, haha.
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:01 PM   #39
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Well, grey rep and "idiot" then. No cocks though.

 
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:01 PM   #40
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yeah it is not possible to hear darcy's bass in 1999, she was barely standing and you could only hear iha when he would fuck up ... which was on almost every song. yeah that is talent
was D'arcy even conscious in 99?

at least Jimmy could play when he was fucked up.




I appreciate the vibe that the old band had. Especially pre MCIS. But as a group that vibe was mostly gone by the time D'arcy left.

I don't go to SP shows today expecting them to look, act or sound like the original 4. I don't want them to. I go today to see what they can do today. When it comes to the new music there's a sound comeing through that's interesting and new. And they do justice to the old songs. I'm happy with that.

 
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Awesome, lala neg-repped me for that, haha.
yeah when you say they played i am one in brixton you are well lying. they played it first time in Padova. so yeah you are a liar. go follow another band

 
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:06 PM   #42
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i think lala has broken her mind.

 
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:07 PM   #43
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she can't give negative rep. she's been neutered
i am not getting into a internet fight with you dude. grow up

 
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:08 PM   #44
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was D'arcy even conscious in 99?
no she was sooooo tired from practicing bass for 24 hours a day

 
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:14 PM   #45
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that's right because you would lose. now fuck off


yeah. that guy said that i am one sucked in england, but they didn't play i am one in england so yeah ... i am the bad guy here i hope you are happy for winning a internet fight with a random dude you will never meet

 
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:15 PM   #46
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yeah when you say they played i am one in brixton you are well lying. they played it first time in Padova. so yeah you are a liar. go follow another band


Go to 08.04. Sound familiar?

p.s. thanks for the cock RockLobster <3

 
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:20 PM   #47
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Go to 08.04. Sound familiar?

p.s. thanks for the cock RockLobster <3
you obviously don't know the difference from a tease and a full song. if you are dissaponted by a tease than you are even a bigger d-bag than i thought

 
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:22 PM   #48
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you obviously don't know the difference from a tease and a full song. if you are dissaponted by a tease than you are even a bigger d-bag than i thought
Where did I say they'd played the full song?

 
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:28 PM   #49
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Where did I say they'd played the full song?
you are complaining about a tease.

"mama, mama the i am one tease sucked! "

 
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:35 PM   #50
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I wasn't at all disappointed by the tease. In fact, I was overjoyed that they quit murdering a great song at just over a minute in.

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Old 12-01-2011, 01:43 PM   #51
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I wasn't at all disappointed by the tease. In fact, I was overjoyed that they quit murdering a great song at just over a minute in.
LOL...

 
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:56 PM   #52
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Well slap me with a kipper and call me Dudley, I had no idea expressing an opinion that differs to your own was The Ultimate Sin. I must repent! *takes off clothes and starts masturbating furiously with a pan-scourer*

I wasn't at all disappointed by the tease. In fact, I was overjoyed that they quit murdering a great song at just over a minute in.
yeah people who can actually play are "murdering" a great song. maybe you should watch the cris isaak special where jimmy says AGAIN that darcy and james couldn't play, where jimmy says AGAIN that darcy and james only looked good in videos, maybe you should read the RS interview from 1993 where james and darcy admit they didn't have the skills to play on SD, maybe you should listen to 100+ interviews of billy talking about their skills, maybe you should read the butch vig interview where he states that james and darcy were not skilled enough to play on a record, etc.


yeah pure talent, pure talent.

 
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Old 12-01-2011, 02:12 PM   #53
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yeah people who can actually play are "murdering" a great song. maybe you should watch the cris isaak special where jimmy says AGAIN that darcy and james couldn't play, where jimmy says AGAIN that darcy and james only looked good in videos, maybe you should read the RS interview from 1993 where james and darcy admit they didn't have the skills to play on SD, maybe you should listen to 100+ interviews of billy talking about their skills, maybe you should read the butch vig interview where he states that james and darcy were not skilled enough to play on a record, etc.


yeah pure talent, pure talent.


 
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Old 12-01-2011, 02:16 PM   #54
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yeah people who can actually play are "murdering" a great song. maybe you should watch the cris isaak special where jimmy says AGAIN that darcy and james couldn't play, where jimmy says AGAIN that darcy and james only looked good in videos, maybe you should read the RS interview from 1993 where james and darcy admit they didn't have the skills to play on SD, maybe you should listen to 100+ interviews of billy talking about their skills, maybe you should read the butch vig interview where he states that james and darcy were not skilled enough to play on a record, etc.


yeah pure talent, pure talent.
Or maybe I could listen to a few bootlegs and make my own mind up instead of having to be spoon-fed opinions which I then regurgitate as my own?

 
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Old 12-01-2011, 02:16 PM   #55
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no it is the "opinion" of BC and Jimmy and Butch Vig and Darcy and James

 
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Old 12-01-2011, 02:17 PM   #56
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yeah people who can actually play are "murdering" a great song. maybe you should watch the cris isaak special where jimmy says AGAIN that darcy and james couldn't play, where jimmy says AGAIN that darcy and james only looked good in videos, maybe you should read the RS interview from 1993 where james and darcy admit they didn't have the skills to play on SD, maybe you should listen to 100+ interviews of billy talking about their skills, maybe you should read the butch vig interview where he states that james and darcy were not skilled enough to play on a record, etc.


yeah pure talent, pure talent.
regardless of what you think about darcy and james, it doesn't matter. people are saying that they don't like the way the new band sounds. you can't respond to that by saying, "BUT JAMES AND DARCY DIDN'T PLAY ON OLD PUMPKINS!!1!!!!" not applicable. just stop.

personally, i don't think james and d'arcy were all that talented, but they were part of the shaky unit that created the original spirit of the pumpkins. that's what i miss. and for the record, i think the new band sounds like shit.

 
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regardless of what you think about darcy and james, it doesn't matter. people are saying that they don't like the way the new band sounds. you can't respond to that by saying, "BUT JAMES AND DARCY DIDN'T PLAY ON OLD PUMPKINS!!1!!!!" not applicable. just stop.

personally, i don't think james and d'arcy were all that talented, but they were part of the shaky unit that created the original spirit of the pumpkins. that's what i miss. and for the record, i think the new band sounds like shit.
i respond by saying that james and darcy couldn't play, not that they didn't play and i am not the only one saying this. jimmy, billy, butch and even james and darcy said that many times

 
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i respond by saying that james and darcy couldn't play, not that they didn't play and i am not saying this. jimmy, billy, butch and even james and darcy said that so bite me bitch
you're still completely missing the point of what i'm saying. people are saying that they don't like the sound of the new band. you saying "james and darcy couldn't play" isn't a valid response to that.

 
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you're still completely missing the point of what i'm saying. people are saying that they don't like the sound of the new band. you saying "james and darcy couldn't play" isn't a valid response to that.
you are missing the point of why the people are saying that and that is NOSTALGIA. the "old" band was VERY VERY inconsistent live. billy confirmed that many times and it is obvious to all of us who saw SP back in the day.

 
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you are missing the point of why the people are saying that and that is NOSTALGIA. the "old" band was VERY VERY inconsistent live. billy confirmed that many times and it is obvious to all of us who saw SP back in the day.
you're a fucking idiot.

 
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