Oblivion is pretty aptly named.

[killtrocity]

Originally Posted by Banana

I forget what it was called, the blood brother secret society, or some shit. But that was the best part of oblivion. Where you killed people. I was so sad when that shit finally came to an end.

agreed, dark brotherfood 4 lyfe, hatch3t to da fac3 of d4 hat0rz wh00p wh00p

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by killtrocity

haha, damn right about that!

no biggie though, I suggest making a spell that temporarily raises mercantile and trading with a high level trader (I think that levels you up faster)

eh it's plodding along, i could be using blade since she basically turned into a stabby jumpy mage girl but noooooooooo (or security, jesus she goes through lockpicks like crazy)

i also pulled the difficulty down slightly. now i don't get killed on every encounter but it's still pretty hairy. I chucked it down low enough one time that I could kill trolls on one hit with the 25 point scorching touch. that was amusing for a little bit.

[Dead Frequency]

There's a daedric artifact that increases security by fifty

[Trotskilicious]

well there's also spells

[PkPhuoko]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

I'm playing it now for the 1st times, I have been sucked in entirely.

see if you feel the same when you finish the main storyline an hour and a half from now

[PkPhuoko]

Originally Posted by dean_r_koontz

There are some good games to play. Oblivion is not one of them.

amen... one of the most overrated series in gaming

they sacrifice storyline and longevity for an epeen on size and scale. Considering how easy it is to automate landscapes and how buggy theirs were (as far as seems and mirroring) far from impressed.

[Dead Frequency]

What dude? The primary storyline is short, but there're hours upon hours of compelling gameplay. It's not really meant to be a game that you just run through, because you can and quickly. But to get the real Oblivion experience you gotta meander off the main trail. Plus being a vampire is cool. Not to mention the extra content

[Dead Frequency]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

well there's also spells

Yea but the artifact deal is constant and weighs one pound. But I never really did the spell caster deal except when you get to make your own spells and bring specific skills up to the next level or whatever. Which is particularly useful with repair.

[killtrocity]

god I wanna play this game again now but I've already put over 300 hours into it across two characters and I"m trying to be more social.... ugh...

and really who gives a shit about the main storyline, just smoke a bowl or drink a 40 and explore

[duovamp]

Make up your own story and explore.






That's how I live...

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by PkPhuoko

see if you feel the same when you finish the main storyline an hour and a half from now

if

[Trotskilicious]

25 hours in still bud

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Dead Frequency

Yea but the artifact deal is constant and weighs one pound. But I never really did the spell caster deal except when you get to make your own spells and bring specific skills up to the next level or whatever. Which is particularly useful with repair.

there are spells that automatically open every kind of lock except maybe v. hard i dunno. i have v. easy, easy and average. I dunno if there's any past that, I haven't been to the guild hall.


and just to repeat, people who play action games complain about the length of the main story on this and Fallout. I'm sorry it's not the perfect 3 hour style you're used to.

I've played over 70 hours of Fallout and I don't think I'm even halfway through the main quest. Honestly I think sometimes you people are so used to action games and Final Fantasy that you just have zero imagination.

[PkPhuoko]

Originally Posted by Dead Frequency

What dude? The primary storyline is short, but there're hours upon hours of compelling gameplay. It's not really meant to be a game that you just run through, because you can and quickly. But to get the real Oblivion experience you gotta meander off the main trail. Plus being a vampire is cool. Not to mention the extra content

From a writing standpoint, it just means they couldn't combine the ideas into a fluid storyline. You could easily pull apart games with fantastic writing (ME1, ME2, Dragons Age 1, 2, Neverwinter series, Witcher, etc) and streamline the primary storyline and make a large portion of the game optional. That isn't a feature.

Mass Effect 2 is a much better way to do it. Plenty of optional or material that could have been made optional, that instead was intertwined in the main storyline and makes you quite a bit more invested in your characters.

I guess it all depends on how you game really. I'm generally not a fan of Bethesda's games.

[Trotskilicious]

Mass Effect 2 is a completely different game, again it's almost wholly linear and more in common with Final Fantasy JRPGs than Oblivion which is a more traditional Western RPG. Mass Effect you can barely even customize your character, Oblivion has one of the most customizable and unique leveling systems since Arcanum. I like them both, I think you could combine both elements of the games into one whole, but nobody's done that yet.

Everyone needs to rip off the cinematic approach Mass Effect has to talking heads.

[Trotskilicious]

and someone give me a bunch of money also i could write the best game evar

[PkPhuoko]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

Mass Effect 2 is a completely different game, again it's almost wholly linear and more in common with Final Fantasy JRPGs than Oblivion which is a more traditional Western RPG. Mass Effect you can barely even customize your character, Oblivion has one of the most customizable and unique leveling systems since Arcanum. I like them both, I think you could combine both elements of the games into one whole, but nobody's done that yet.

Everyone needs to rip off the cinematic approach Mass Effect has to talking heads.

I think I get stuck on how much of the worlds textures, landscape, and dungeons can be completely randomized and have little to do with design intent. I understand that is the efficient way of doing things but given that fact I'd expect an emphasis on writing, which I don't usually get from Bethesda games. The grand accomplishment of the game is use of the engine and less so anything to do with game design. That said, 6 months later when a new standard is set as far as performance or graphics, the game is forgotten.

[duovamp]

Grahics don't matter anymore tbh.

[Dead Frequency]

In oblivion you can eat a whole watermelon in one effortless bite tbh

[PkPhuoko]

Originally Posted by duovamp

Grahics don't matter anymore tbh.

Kinda my point.... and oblivions selling point was widely based on a sandbox rpg with great graphics.

You can't base your game on that as there's always a crysis waiting around the corner to dwarf your game

[Trotskilicious]

i wonder what the actual sales data is, as I recall Crysis could only be run by supercomputers and didn't sell very well whereas Oblivion was a massive hit, and Fallout probably bigger than that (and uglier, actually).

Your whole "point" is falling apart and seems little more than trollery.

[duovamp]

It's hard for me to compare the two without some very long and expensive analysis... at the tax-payers' expense of course.

[Dead Frequency]

Srsly you guys a whole watermelon. Pumpkins? Yea, same story.

[duovamp]

Immersion-shattering absurdity. Ruined the game for me.

[PkPhuoko]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

i wonder what the actual sales data is, as I recall Crysis could only be run by supercomputers and didn't sell very well whereas Oblivion was a massive hit, and Fallout probably bigger than that (and uglier, actually).

Your whole "point" is falling apart and seems little more than trollery.

personal preference