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Old 03-23-2011, 10:59 AM   #31
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i think our definitions of art are different.
i think you're just trying to be high-minded but really you're just being annoyingly impractical.

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:11 AM   #32
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I am being impractical by encouraging a more simple response from the viewer?
One thats based in something associated with emotion and not status, or peer opinion? How very impractical of me to suggest that someone who is creating their home environment, their comfort zone, would consider looking for something that moves them or they at least relate to on a personal level.

Art is an ideal to which I have dedicated my life. At all costs. And only in the mild hope that someone relates on a personal emotional level at some point. So forgive me for thinking this should be a consideration when appreciating and purchasing art.

But looking at your suggestions, art based on the theory and thought and mental philosophies almost exclusively, and not the emotional or even basic aesthetic function and i can see all the status you attach to art just fine.

I mean, Miros child like surrealism and mondrians de stijl influenced boredom. hooplah. conversation pieces those.

where is your soul eulogy?

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:11 AM   #33
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i dunno, probably with his sense of humor in the east river somewhere

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:13 AM   #34
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But i suppose art in this sense plays a different role in my life as yours, so I cant expect the same ideals.

But the idea of someone asking someone else what art to put in their house kinda blows my mind a little bit.

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:15 AM   #35
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to be honest if you have posters of art in your house and you don't know anything about them you'll just look like a tool.

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:16 AM   #36
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i think you're just trying to be high-minded but really you're just being annoyingly impractical.
and excuse me, but:

http://images.moviepostershop.com/lo...1020265557.jpg

isn't that your basic operating procedure on netphoria?

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:16 AM   #37
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I am being impractical by encouraging a more simple response from the viewer?
One thats based in something associated with emotion and not status, or peer opinion? How very impractical of me to suggest that someone who is creating their home environment, their comfort zone, would consider looking for something that moves them or they at least relate to on a personal level.
This can still happen when people make recommendations.

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Art is an ideal to which I have dedicated my life. At all costs. And only in the mild hope that someone relates on a personal emotional level at some point. So forgive me for thinking this should be a consideration when appreciating and purchasing art.
What makes you think the OP isn't considering his relationship to what is being recommended before he makes a purchase?

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But looking at your suggestions, art based on the theory and thought and mental philosophies almost exclusively, and not the emotional or even basic aesthetic function and i can see all the status you attach to art just fine.

I mean, Miros child like surrealism and mondrians de stijl influenced boredom. hooplah. conversation pieces those.

where is your soul eulogy?
I dunno. My only real exposure to art aside from walking around museums was some lame 20th Century Art class. I'm no expert. But there are some dudes I was exposed to in that class that I liked. A lot of that was sculpture and performance and natural installations (or whatever they're called) but none of those really work for this purpose.

I'm not claiming to know what this guy would like. But he just asked for examples of what other people enjoyed based on the possibility that he might enjoy them too. And you're trying to act like this is some betrayal of the integrity of art when it clearly isn't. It's still his decision as to what moves him or whatever. It's sort of like saying going to a museum is dumb because hey how the fuck can curators know what kind of art affects me on an emotional level?!

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:17 AM   #38
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yes and he'll just throw it back at you without even thinking about what an annoying asshole he is for no reason about pretty much anything

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:17 AM   #39
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look at that three paragraphs, EULOGY DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFE

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:18 AM   #40
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i mean, it's his new apartment. he just bought it. it's a big deal.
maybe a better music metaphor would be:
'Hey I'm falling in love with this girl. Please help me choose a song that will represent our love'.

if it's not subjective whats the fucking point.

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:20 AM   #41
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i mean, it's his new apartment. he just bought it. it's a big deal.
maybe a better music metaphor would be:
'Hey I'm falling in love with this girl. Please help me choose a song that will represent our love'.

if it's not subjective whats the fucking point.
I'm not saying it's not subjective. You've turned this into a completely different thing. Like I'm some interior decorator who's been given license to buy something and throw it on his walls. That's not what it is.

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:26 AM   #42
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This can still happen when people make recommendations.



What makes you think the OP isn't considering his relationship to what is being recommended before he makes a purchase?



I dunno. My only real exposure to art aside from walking around museums was some lame 20th Century Art class. I'm no expert. But there are some dudes I was exposed to in that class that I liked. A lot of that was sculpture and performance and natural installations (or whatever they're called) but none of those really work for this purpose.

I'm not claiming to know what this guy would like. But he just asked for examples of what other people enjoyed based on the possibility that he might enjoy them too. And you're trying to act like this is some betrayal of the integrity of art when it clearly isn't. It's still his decision as to what moves him or whatever. It's sort of like saying going to a museum is dumb because hey how the fuck can curators know what kind of art affects me on an emotional level?!
The argument that our opinions here on netphoria would help guide him any better than him browsing the art on the site he intends to buy off is what bothers me. Since he knows nothing, looking for anything outside of his own personal reaction to the art implies he wishes to attach social status to whatever purchase he makes, and that irks me.

And what do you suggest to someone who knows nothing about music, for example?
Hey man, you should totally check out 'rock' it's pretty cool but if that doesn't do it for you, check out a little something we like to call 'hip hop' it might be your thing.


It's just mastubatory. same goes for anyone making 'suggestions'.
like it'll matter. like it should matter anyway.

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:29 AM   #43
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The argument that our opinions here on netphoria would help guide him any better than him browsing the art on the site he intends to buy off is what bothers me. Since he knows nothing, looking for anything outside of his own personal reaction to the art implies he wishes to attach social status to whatever purchase he makes, and that irks me.
That might be it. Or he looks at the list of names on that site and gets overwhelmed (because there are a lot) and he just wants to narrow his search a little bit.

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And what do you suggest to someone who knows nothing about music, for example?
Hey man, you should totally check our 'rock' it's pretty cool but if that doesn't do it for you, check out a little something we like to call 'hip hop' it might be your thing.
I think people would generally pick out specific artists for the person who is asking for recommendations to listen to.


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It's just mastubatory. same goes for anyone making 'suggestions'.
like it'll matter. like it should matter anyway.
alright.

The other thing is that maybe this guy just doesn't give a shit and wants to take up wall space with things that are at least mildly pleasing to the eye when you happen to glance at one. I understand that that would offend your sensibilities, but surely you have to understand that different people assign different levels of importance to different things and that isn't automatically wrong.

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:33 AM   #44
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if this is the case then our opinions would matter even less.

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:35 AM   #45
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if they mattered at all in the first place

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:35 AM   #46
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ESPECIALLY YOURS EULOGY

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:36 AM   #47
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you guys are just bitter because my suggestions were well-received

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:36 AM   #48
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if they mattered at all in the first place
exactly.

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:37 AM   #49
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guy is gonna come back, read half way through this page, and never visit this forum again.

good job guise

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:38 AM   #50
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i mean, my opinion doesn't matter. but my opinion on our opinions is FUCKIN GOLD.









My only 'opinion' in this thread has been: he should find a picture for himself that he thinks is nice. the least outside influence the better.

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:39 AM   #51
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thats what you get when you come to netphoria and ask for opinions on nice paintings!!!!

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:42 AM   #52
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:49 AM   #53
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I think you guys will be amused by what I consider to be 'moving' art.
Would you like to see what I consider the best framed poster in my house, from an entirely artistic point of view?

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:02 PM   #54
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I think you guys will be amused by what I consider to be 'moving' art.
Would you like to see what I consider the best framed poster in my house, from an entirely artistic point of view?
I would be!

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:08 PM   #55
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i actually think it won't be that bad.

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:13 PM   #56
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isn't this thread just about things we like so the OP can choose between them

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:18 PM   #57
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its a photo of my own penis.

cause thats true art, an ideal, as I have commented, that I have handed myself over at all costs. It's not just stupid, it's not exhibitionist (i am quite shy) but it is the culimination of a thesis I did.
Basically, the most open and honest an artist can be, exposing themselves on a most base level. For me, this was my personal journey to that point. It's not the same for everyone, and so it wont be an ideal of artistic expression for everyone, but for me it represented myself at what I consider to be most vulnerable. Juxtapose that with my own living room, the sanctuary into which I welcome my closest friends and family, and aside from that, often have personal interactions with my radius of human contact puts me in a further exposed position. It's flacid and it was taken on a cold day, my testicles has receeded a little and pulled my wang up a bit, but i felt that this would even encourage further emotion and expression. In fact, we took different photos over a few days and locations, and so I had some options (some of which were far more flattering) but in the end, i went for the 'underdog' so to speak.
In a big way it's been quite cathartic. It's even got me laid a few times. I cant imagine another basic image havinh made such an impact on my life, directly, and continuously, and so i consider something so vulgar and basic to be 'high art'.
I aced my thesis BTW.

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:19 PM   #58
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having posters of famous paintings is like having a collection of burned cdrs.

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:26 PM   #59
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both are fine

 
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:54 PM   #60
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if you enjoy approximation, i suppose

 
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