how do you feel about zwan's political stance?

Ann Ominous · 05-26-2003, 10:47 AM

it seems to me that they are pro-peace and freedom.

and pro-love, and pro-gay.

i'm so not down with that.

Ugly · 05-26-2003, 11:35 AM

cap'n jazz · 05-27-2003, 08:48 AM

BUUTER MY TOAST

jczeroman · 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ann Ominous
it seems to me that they are pro-peace and freedom.

and pro-love, and pro-gay.

I cannot gauge a single thing about the political stance of Billy and any of his compadres. Even the times he was on PI he never really said anything.

The only thing I could ever define was when I heard lots of rumors that Disarm was about abortion and the Billy was pro-life.

He seems to keep the politics out of his music.

EDIT: just realized that Zwan WAS on Fox news in January.

Nimrod's Son · 05-27-2003, 12:46 PM

I saw Zwan on "This Week in Baseball." Billy made some very controversial statements about how he was a Cubs fan and roots for former Cubs.

I found that offensive.

cap'n jazz · 05-27-2003, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nimrod's Son
I saw Zwan on "This Week in Baseball." Billy made some very controversial statements about how he was a Cubs fan and roots for former Cubs.

I found that offensive.

TIPPER GORE 4 U.

The Omega Concern · 05-27-2003, 03:27 PM

at least we have solid info on the next album: The Secrets of Turk Wendell: a mystery for the ages.

05-27-2003, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nimrod's Son
I saw Zwan on "This Week in Baseball." Billy made some very controversial statements about how he was a Cubs fan and roots for former Cubs.

I found that offensive.

It's easy to root for former Cubs.

Step 1- Follow a successful, winning MLB team.

Step 2- Wait until the third inning. By then at least one former Cub will have batted.

Bobby Dernier for life!

Nimrod's Son · 05-27-2003, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jason Smith

It's easy to root for former Cubs.

Step 1- Follow a successful, winning MLB team.

Step 2- Wait until the third inning. By then at least one former Cub will have batted.

Bobby Dernier for life!

Actually, Billy spoke for like 2 minutes (which is quite a bit since their entire piece couldn't have been more than 4 minutes) about his hardon for Mark Grace.

05-27-2003, 10:23 PM

Which proves my point (I think). Mark Grace=Arizona Diamondbacks 1st baseman two years ago.

Hit me!

ANYBODY remember Bobby Dernier? I guess I'm dating myself. He was the Cubs CF on their '84 NL East division champ team. I was 6 or 7 that year. For some reason, he was my favorite player. He got replaced by a switch-hitting Hispanic dude whose name I can't recall at the moment.

Nimrod's Son · 05-28-2003, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jason Smith
Which proves my point (I think). Mark Grace=Arizona Diamondbacks 1st baseman two years ago.

Hit me!

ANYBODY remember Bobby Dernier? I guess I'm dating myself. He was the Cubs CF on their '84 NL East division champ team. I was 6 or 7 that year. For some reason, he was my favorite player. He got replaced by a switch-hitting Hispanic dude whose name I can't recall at the moment.

Yes, I know who Mark Grace is, thanks.

I remember Dernier. He was fast and a decent outfielder but couldn't hit enough to stick around for long.

The Omega Concern · 05-28-2003, 04:39 PM

Dernier was pretty fast for a white guy...84? Is that the year Steve Garvey dealt the lethel blow to the Cubs World Series hopes? Then the Padres got smoked by the Tigers.

anyway...former Cubs?

Billy Williams (wait, he never played for anyone else huh)
Shawon Dunston

shit...Im not so hot on my Cubs history.

somebody post the Cubbies 84' lineup and some pitchers. chop chop.

Nimrod's Son · 05-28-2003, 07:10 PM

Here's a few..
Larry Bowa, Don Zimmer, Rick Sutcliffe, Dennis Eckersley, Ron Cey, Ron Hassey, Lee Smith, Rich Hebner, Bill Buckner, Billy Hatcher, Mel Hall, Henry Cotto, Ryne Sandberg.

The Omega Concern · 05-28-2003, 07:41 PM

dudes...#33 name was Porfi. bwahah. :P

Here they are, your 1984 Chicago Cubs...they finished 96-65, one game short of 162. If I had to guess one game was called because of darkness. I miss those days.

33 Porfi Altamirano 6-00 175 Right Right 05-17-1952
42 Rich Bordi 6-07 220 Right Right 04-18-1959
41 Warren Brusstar 6-03 200 Right Right 02-02-1952
43 Dennis Eckersley 6-02 190 Right Right 10-03-1954
39 George Frazier 6-05 205 Right Right 10-13-1954
37 Bill Johnson 6-05 205 Right Right 10-06-1960
38 Ron Meridith 6-00 175 Left Left 11-26-1956
48 Dickie Noles 6-02 190 Right Right 11-19-1956
52 Reggie Patterson 6-04 180 Right Right 11-07-1958
30 Chuck Rainey 5-11 190 Right Right 07-14-1954
47, 48 Rick Reuschel 6-03 235 Right Right 05-16-1949
44 Dick Ruthven 6-03 190 Right Right 03-27-1951
24 Scott Sanderson 6-05 200 Right Right 07-22-1956
43 Don Schulze 6-03 225 Right Right 09-27-1962
46 Lee Smith 6-06 225 Right Right 12-04-1957
49 Tim Stoddard 6-07 250 Right Right 01-24-1953
40 Rick Sutcliffe 6-07 215 Right Left 06-21-1956
34 Steve Trout 6-04 195 Left Left 07-30-1957

# Catchers Height Weight Throws Bats Date Of Birth

7 Jody Davis 6-03 210 Right Right 11-12-1956
15 Ron Hassey 6-02 200 Right Left 02-27-1953
16 Steve Lake 6-01 190 Right Right 03-14-1957

# Infielders Height Weight Throws Bats Date Of Birth

1 Larry Bowa
22 Bill Buckner
11 Ron Cey
10 Leon Durham
18 Richie Hebner
19 Dave Owen
17 Dan Rohn
23 Ryne Sandberg 6-02 180 Right Right 09-18-1959
29 Tom Veryzer 6-01 185 Right Right 02-11-1953
# Outfielders Height Weight Throws Bats Date Of Birth
27 Thad Bosley 6-03 175 Left Left 09-17-1956
28 Henry Cotto 6-02 178 Right Right 01-05-1961
20 Bob Dernier 6-00 165 Right Right 01-05-1957
27 Mel Hall 6-01 205 Left Left 09-16-1960
22 Billy Hatcher 5-09 175 Right Right 10-04-1960
21 Jay Johnstone 6-01 175 Right Left 11-20-1945
12 Davey Lopes 5-09 170 Right Right 05-03-1945
36 Gary Matthews 6-03 190 Right Right 07-05-1950
6 Keith Moreland 6-00 200 Right Right 05-02-1954
25 Gary Woods 6-02 190 Right Right 07-20-1954

05-29-2003, 09:02 PM

I loved how Gary Matthews would always "accidently" knock his batting helmet off when rounding the bases. He hated the rule that said you had to keep your helmet on.

Rick Sutcliffe pitched for the Indians World Series team that lost to the Marlins, didn't he?

And just for the record, Leon Durham kicked ass.

cap'n jazz · 05-30-2003, 04:19 AM

This thread has been ruined by yr stupid sports.

The Omega Concern · 05-30-2003, 03:32 PM

I think there's about 3 netphorians who have secretly longed for a sports board on Netphoria.

what better thread to veil this sports fix than Zwan's political stance...which appearently is somewhere to the right of Mark Graces lefthandedness and to the left of Turk Wendells toothbrush.

Dicsuss. :/

Nimrod's Son · 05-30-2003, 06:19 PM

A sports board would kick ass because it would keep those threads out of everyone else's way.

But there would be too many complaints and it would never happen.

jczeroman · 05-31-2003, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Omega Concern
I think there's about 3 netphorians who have secretly longed for a sports board on Netphoria.

On the one had it would be cool. Yet I kind of like forcign those who don't liek sport to hear abotu it. Part fo the fun about posting abotu sports on the general board si that certain peopel can't stand it.

cap'n jazz · 06-01-2003, 07:48 AM

A sports board would probably be busier than this political shithole.

The Omega Concern · 06-07-2003, 04:58 PM

I just saw the new interview of Zwan and it was pretty good. That guy Gopoloupoloupous (sp?) is good. Ummm...I think I get Billy's notions about artist that stand the test of time being above the times they're in, not just with the times.

Jimmy looks healthy. That Sweeney guy is funneh.

I dunno...cool interview. rock on!

Ann Ominous · 06-07-2003, 06:19 PM

what happened to my beautiful thread?

you're gonna pay for this zwan!

severin · 06-07-2003, 07:52 PM

to get back on topic:
in an interview on german tv on 2003-02-17 or 18 he was asked about the peace protests, and he more or less said, that he was with them on account of peace being the most important thing in the world, but that they also were as much pro-peace as anti-american, and that the people protesting were forgetting the fact that saddam was a brutal dictator. he said people should step down from seeing the whole situation as black and white either this side or that. and he found it very uplifting how much enthusiasm the protesters had. and he made a point about food issues and the aids problem. he wishes for everyday consistency about care for other matters like these.

i think that was his most lenghty statement about politics i ever saw...available on a wondervul svcd to download at the hub (including performances of el sol, jesus, i > god's gonna set the world on fire and desire)

05-26-2003, 10:47 AM	#1
Ann Ominous Ownz Location: gimme a fucking custom title, shitholes. Posts: 901	how do you feel about zwan's political stance? it seems to me that they are pro-peace and freedom. and pro-love, and pro-gay. i'm so not down with that.

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severin no more than sympathy Location: lying on the floor Posts: 14,826	to get back on topic: in an interview on german tv on 2003-02-17 or 18 he was asked about the peace protests, and he more or less said, that he was with them on account of peace being the most important thing in the world, but that they also were as much pro-peace as anti-american, and that the people protesting were forgetting the fact that saddam was a brutal dictator. he said people should step down from seeing the whole situation as black and white either this side or that. and he found it very uplifting how much enthusiasm the protesters had. and he made a point about food issues and the aids problem. he wishes for everyday consistency about care for other matters like these. i think that was his most lenghty statement about politics i ever saw...available on a wondervul svcd to download at the hub (including performances of el sol, jesus, i > god's gonna set the world on fire and desire) __________________ i once told a To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. that nothing really ends

05-27-2003, 08:48 AM	#3
cap'n jazz Socialphobic Location: FUCKING HELL Posts: 11,689	BUUTER MY TOAST

05-27-2003, 12:46 PM	#5
Nimrod's Son Master of Karate and Friendship Location: in your butt Posts: 72,943	I saw Zwan on "This Week in Baseball." Billy made some very controversial statements about how he was a Cubs fan and roots for former Cubs. I found that offensive.

05-27-2003, 03:27 PM	#7
The Omega Concern Banned Location: stay, far, away Posts: 8,997	at least we have solid info on the next album: The Secrets of Turk Wendell: a mystery for the ages.

05-27-2003, 10:23 PM	#10
Jason Smith Posts: n/a	Which proves my point (I think). Mark Grace=Arizona Diamondbacks 1st baseman two years ago. Hit me! ANYBODY remember Bobby Dernier? I guess I'm dating myself. He was the Cubs CF on their '84 NL East division champ team. I was 6 or 7 that year. For some reason, he was my favorite player. He got replaced by a switch-hitting Hispanic dude whose name I can't recall at the moment.

05-28-2003, 04:39 PM	#12
The Omega Concern Banned Location: stay, far, away Posts: 8,997	Dernier was pretty fast for a white guy...84? Is that the year Steve Garvey dealt the lethel blow to the Cubs World Series hopes? Then the Padres got smoked by the Tigers. anyway...former Cubs? Billy Williams (wait, he never played for anyone else huh) Shawon Dunston shit...Im not so hot on my Cubs history. somebody post the Cubbies 84' lineup and some pitchers. chop chop.

05-28-2003, 07:10 PM	#13
Nimrod's Son Master of Karate and Friendship Location: in your butt Posts: 72,943	Here's a few.. Larry Bowa, Don Zimmer, Rick Sutcliffe, Dennis Eckersley, Ron Cey, Ron Hassey, Lee Smith, Rich Hebner, Bill Buckner, Billy Hatcher, Mel Hall, Henry Cotto, Ryne Sandberg.

05-28-2003, 07:41 PM	#14
The Omega Concern Banned Location: stay, far, away Posts: 8,997	dudes...#33 name was Porfi. bwahah. :P Here they are, your 1984 Chicago Cubs...they finished 96-65, one game short of 162. If I had to guess one game was called because of darkness. I miss those days. 33 Porfi Altamirano 6-00 175 Right Right 05-17-1952 42 Rich Bordi 6-07 220 Right Right 04-18-1959 41 Warren Brusstar 6-03 200 Right Right 02-02-1952 43 Dennis Eckersley 6-02 190 Right Right 10-03-1954 39 George Frazier 6-05 205 Right Right 10-13-1954 37 Bill Johnson 6-05 205 Right Right 10-06-1960 38 Ron Meridith 6-00 175 Left Left 11-26-1956 48 Dickie Noles 6-02 190 Right Right 11-19-1956 52 Reggie Patterson 6-04 180 Right Right 11-07-1958 30 Chuck Rainey 5-11 190 Right Right 07-14-1954 47, 48 Rick Reuschel 6-03 235 Right Right 05-16-1949 44 Dick Ruthven 6-03 190 Right Right 03-27-1951 24 Scott Sanderson 6-05 200 Right Right 07-22-1956 43 Don Schulze 6-03 225 Right Right 09-27-1962 46 Lee Smith 6-06 225 Right Right 12-04-1957 49 Tim Stoddard 6-07 250 Right Right 01-24-1953 40 Rick Sutcliffe 6-07 215 Right Left 06-21-1956 34 Steve Trout 6-04 195 Left Left 07-30-1957 # Catchers Height Weight Throws Bats Date Of Birth 7 Jody Davis 6-03 210 Right Right 11-12-1956 15 Ron Hassey 6-02 200 Right Left 02-27-1953 16 Steve Lake 6-01 190 Right Right 03-14-1957 # Infielders Height Weight Throws Bats Date Of Birth 1 Larry Bowa 22 Bill Buckner 11 Ron Cey 10 Leon Durham 18 Richie Hebner 19 Dave Owen 17 Dan Rohn 23 Ryne Sandberg 6-02 180 Right Right 09-18-1959 29 Tom Veryzer 6-01 185 Right Right 02-11-1953 # Outfielders Height Weight Throws Bats Date Of Birth 27 Thad Bosley 6-03 175 Left Left 09-17-1956 28 Henry Cotto 6-02 178 Right Right 01-05-1961 20 Bob Dernier 6-00 165 Right Right 01-05-1957 27 Mel Hall 6-01 205 Left Left 09-16-1960 22 Billy Hatcher 5-09 175 Right Right 10-04-1960 21 Jay Johnstone 6-01 175 Right Left 11-20-1945 12 Davey Lopes 5-09 170 Right Right 05-03-1945 36 Gary Matthews 6-03 190 Right Right 07-05-1950 6 Keith Moreland 6-00 200 Right Right 05-02-1954 25 Gary Woods 6-02 190 Right Right 07-20-1954

05-29-2003, 09:02 PM	#15
Jason Smith Posts: n/a	I loved how Gary Matthews would always "accidently" knock his batting helmet off when rounding the bases. He hated the rule that said you had to keep your helmet on. Rick Sutcliffe pitched for the Indians World Series team that lost to the Marlins, didn't he? And just for the record, Leon Durham kicked ass.

05-30-2003, 04:19 AM	#16
cap'n jazz Socialphobic Location: FUCKING HELL Posts: 11,689	This thread has been ruined by yr stupid sports.

05-30-2003, 03:32 PM	#17
The Omega Concern Banned Location: stay, far, away Posts: 8,997	I think there's about 3 netphorians who have secretly longed for a sports board on Netphoria. what better thread to veil this sports fix than Zwan's political stance...which appearently is somewhere to the right of Mark Graces lefthandedness and to the left of Turk Wendells toothbrush. Dicsuss. :/

05-30-2003, 06:19 PM	#18
Nimrod's Son Master of Karate and Friendship Location: in your butt Posts: 72,943	A sports board would kick ass because it would keep those threads out of everyone else's way. But there would be too many complaints and it would never happen.

06-01-2003, 07:48 AM	#20
cap'n jazz Socialphobic Location: FUCKING HELL Posts: 11,689	A sports board would probably be busier than this political shithole.

06-07-2003, 04:58 PM	#21
The Omega Concern Banned Location: stay, far, away Posts: 8,997	I just saw the new interview of Zwan and it was pretty good. That guy Gopoloupoloupous (sp?) is good. Ummm...I think I get Billy's notions about artist that stand the test of time being above the times they're in, not just with the times. Jimmy looks healthy. That Sweeney guy is funneh. I dunno...cool interview. rock on!

06-07-2003, 06:19 PM	#22
Ann Ominous Ownz Location: gimme a fucking custom title, shitholes. Posts: 901	what happened to my beautiful thread? you're gonna pay for this zwan!