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Old 05-27-2003, 11:44 PM   #1
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Question how do gay ppl lose virginity....

.... if they've never been with a member of the opposite sex? and if the whole anal/oral thing counts as losing virginity to gay people, then does it count for straight people? do strap-ons count for lesbians? discuss dammit.

 
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Old 05-27-2003, 11:47 PM   #2
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well this hasn't been done before...

that said, let's begin the insanity

 
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Old 05-27-2003, 11:47 PM   #3
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Old 05-27-2003, 11:49 PM   #4
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HOLDEN
Wait, wait, wait - you’re still a
virgin?

ALYSSA
No.

HOLDEN
But you’ve only been with girls.

ALYSSA
You’re saying a person’s a virgin
until they’ve had intercourse with a
member of the opposite sex?

HOLDEN
Isn’t that the standard definition?

ALYSSA
Again with the standards. I think
virginity is lost when you make love
for the first time.

HOLDEN
With a member of the opposite sex.

ALYSSA
Why? Why only then?

HOLDEN
Because that’s the standard.

ALYSSA
So if a virgin is raped, then she’s
still a virgin?

HOLDEN
Of course not.

ALYSSA
But rape is not the standard. So
she’s had sex, but not the standard
idea of sex. Hence, according to
your definition, she’d still be a
virgin.

HOLDEN
Okay, I’ll revise. Virginity is lost
when the hymen is broken.

ALYSSA
Then I lost my virginity at ten,
because I fell on a fence post when I
was ten, and it broke my hymen. Now I
have to tell people that I lost it to
a wooden post I’d known my whole young
life?

HOLDEN
Second revision - virginity is lost
through penetration.

ALYSSA
Physical penetration or emotional?

HOLDEN
Emotional?

ALYSSA
Well, I fell in love hard with Caitlin
Bree when we were in high school.

HOLDEN
Physical penetration.

ALYSSA
We had sex.

HOLDEN
Yeah, but not real sex.

ALYSSA
I move to have that remark stricken
from the record. On account of it
makes you come off as completely naive
and infantile.

HOLDEN
Well where’s the penetration in
lesbian sex.

Alyssa holds up her hand.

HOLDEN
A finger? Come on. I’ve had my
finger in my ass but I wouldn’t say
I’ve had anal sex.

ALYSSA
Did I hold up a finger?
(waves her hand)

HOLDEN
(beat; then he gets it)
You’re kidding?!?!
(she nods)
How...?!?

ALYSSA
Our bodies are built to pass a child,
for Christ’s sake.

HOLDEN
But doesn’t it hurt?!

ALYSSA
Sure. But in a good way. And it’s
only a once-in-awhile thing - reserved
for really special occasions.

HOLDEN
What about not-so-special occasions?

ALYSSA
Tongue only.

HOLDEN
But how can that be enough? I mean,
let’s be real - how big can a tongue
even get?

Alyssa swallows what she’s chewing and releases her
tongue, which is just huge. Holden is transfixed.
Alyssa wraps it back up and smiles, standing.

ALYSSA
Let’s go.

She exits. Holden remains in the swing. Alyssa comes
back in.

ALYSSA
Come on.

HOLDEN
Just...uh... just give me a moment.
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Old 05-27-2003, 11:50 PM   #5
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I don't know about lesbians, as to what would count as intercourse.
as far as homos go, recieving anal definitely counts as losing virginity, oral does not

 
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Old 05-27-2003, 11:51 PM   #6
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I was going to mention the similarity, but I don't like to contribute too much.

 
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Old 05-27-2003, 11:55 PM   #7
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I don't know about lesbians, as to what would count as intercourse.
as far as homos go, recieving anal definitely counts as losing virginity, oral does not
receiving, not giving? so if you give anal, you can still technically be a virgin?

 
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Old 05-27-2003, 11:58 PM   #8
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dude, making love is making love. you can't say that for dykes only sex with a strap-on is sex. Some lesbos don't even do strap-ons or dildos - does that mean they're a virgin? no.

 
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Old 05-28-2003, 12:01 AM   #9
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dude, making love is making love. you can't say that for dykes only sex with a strap-on is sex. Some lesbos don't even do strap-ons or dildos - does that mean they're a virgin? no.
i didn't say ONLY strap-ons count for lesbos. i was just asking if it did. i didn't even say i believe one or the other, because frankly, i don't give two shits and a fuck.

 
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Old 05-28-2003, 12:22 AM   #10
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viginity is what you perceive it to be.

hence the 'born again' virgin.

 
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Old 05-28-2003, 12:41 AM   #11
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receiving, not giving? so if you give anal, you can still technically be a virgin?
sorry, I meant giving and recieving

 
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Old 05-28-2003, 12:58 AM   #12
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Loss of virginity is achieved through penis penetration of the baby maker, otherwise known as vagina. Also penis penetrating the anus for gays. For lesbians... well, I guess they'll still sort of be virgins. Even if they get penetrated by a dildo or something... eh, well. Maybe that counts as half losing the virginity. *Shrug*. So that's my definition.
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Old 05-28-2003, 03:15 AM   #13
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Loss of virginity is achieved through penis penetration of the baby maker, otherwise known as vagina. Also penis penetrating the anus for gays. For lesbians... well, I guess they'll still sort of be virgins. Even if they get penetrated by a dildo or something... eh, well. Maybe that counts as half losing the virginity. *Shrug*. So that's my definition.
My definition too. Except the "half losing the virginity" part.

 
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Old 05-28-2003, 01:03 PM   #14
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this is a toughie... I know a way to simplify the whole arguement... Virginity is lost through the penetration of any orifice (vaginas, nostrils, ears, etc..) by a penis (human or animal). This *******s both giving and receiving. Lesbians are redundant...

 
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Old 05-28-2003, 01:05 PM   #15
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this is a toughie... I know a way to simplify the whole arguement... Virginity is lost through the penetration of any orifice (vaginas, nostrils, ears, etc..) by a penis (human or animal). This *******s both giving and receiving. Lesbians are redundant...
That's retarded. If a girl gives a hummer, she's still a virgin.

 
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Old 05-28-2003, 01:07 PM   #16
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That's retarded. If a girl gives a hummer, she's still a virgin.
OR IS SHE?!

 
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Old 05-28-2003, 01:31 PM   #17
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That's retarded. If a girl gives a hummer, she's still a virgin.
Well then YOU come up with a theory! All this 'thinking' is making my head hurt...

 
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Old 05-28-2003, 01:43 PM   #18
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Well then YOU come up with a theory! All this 'thinking' is making my head hurt...
Aight. Any chick that hasn't had a cock in her snatch is a virgin. Yes, so even a 50 yr old lesbo could still be a virgin.

Any guy that has never put his ramrod inside of a cooter is also a virgin. Yes, a 50 year old drag queen could still be a virgin.

 
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Old 05-28-2003, 02:03 PM   #19
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Aight. Any chick that hasn't had a cock in her snatch is a virgin. Yes, so even a 50 yr old lesbo could still be a virgin.

Any guy that has never put his ramrod inside of a cooter is also a virgin. Yes, a 50 year old drag queen could still be a virgin.
so your sticking strictly to the "cocks and cunts" side of the arguement. Does your theory apply to humans alone? What about a man who likes impaling female goats?

 
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Old 05-28-2003, 03:23 PM   #20
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Aight. Any chick that hasn't had a cock in her snatch is a virgin. Yes, so even a 50 yr old lesbo could still be a virgin.

Any guy that has never put his ramrod inside of a cooter is also a virgin. Yes, a 50 year old drag queen could still be a virgin.
That's dumb.
This concept/theory on virginity of yours is totally hetero-sex based.
I like the more open ended point of view the females were taking towards this earlier in the thread. Losing ones virginity is different to everyone. Some think its lost when oral sex occurs, while others strongly believe that only until vaginal/anal sex is had is when its lost. However, you're just narrowing it down to heterosexual acts and that's retarded.

 
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Old 05-28-2003, 03:29 PM   #21
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That's dumb.
This concept/theory on virginity of yours is totally hetero-sex based.
I like the more open ended point of view the females were taking towards this earlier in the thread. Losing ones virginity is different to everyone. Some think its lost when oral sex occurs, while others strongly believe that only until vaginal/anal sex is had is when its lost. However, you're just narrowing it down to heterosexual acts and that's retarded.
No, because I define a virgin as one who has never engaged in sexual intercourse.

I consider sexual intercourse penis-vaginal contact.

You can say "I lost my anal virginity" or whatever if it makes you happy, but I'm going to have to go with the traditional definition of virginity.

 
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Old 05-28-2003, 03:48 PM   #22
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i was gonna say that! it really needs the hand visual with the look of absolute horror on holden's face. good times.

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Any guy that has never put his ramrod inside of a cooter is also a virgin. Yes, a 50 year old drag queen could still be a virgin.
:erm drag queen is not the same thing as gay. you're confusing your gender identity disorders
EDIT: this is not meant to imply that homosexuality is a disorder i know better than that, even though i do live in oklahoma
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Old 05-28-2003, 03:50 PM   #23
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:erm drag queen is not the same thing as gay. you're confusing your gender identity disorders
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I said "could be." I know not all gays are drag queens. I also know that not all drag queens are gay, but I think it's a safe bet to say that most drag queens are peter puffers.

 
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