On cloves

jczeroman · 05-02-2003, 01:16 PM

So I had my first bout with cloves last night and I still feel sick. I really enjoy pipes and enjoy a casual smoke. But those cloves... they are pretty intense. I was buzzed like mad and was pretty wobbly all night. Are cloves that intense or am I just weak? I won't do any more for a year or so, crazy.

Random Female · 05-02-2003, 01:33 PM

What? how did you smoke them?

El Scorcho · 05-02-2003, 01:35 PM

I smoke cloves very occasionally, but they don't bother me like that. What cigs do you normally smoke?

Random Female · 05-02-2003, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by El Scorcho
I smoke cloves very occasionally, but they don't bother me like that. What cigs do you normally smoke?

that's what i was going to say... a few years ago i did the whole coffeeshop/clove smoker poser thing. did nothing to me.

El Scorcho · 05-02-2003, 01:40 PM

I think if you do like, Parliament Lights or Marb Lights or something like that regularly, then cloves might bother you. This one little convenience store place that had a smoking section actually asked my friend to put out his clove because it was making one of their workers sick.

Random Female · 05-02-2003, 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by El Scorcho
I think if you do like, Parliament Lights or Marb Lights or something like that regularly, then cloves might bother you. This one little convenience store place that had a smoking section actually asked my friend to put out his clove because it was making one of their workers sick.

wow... i never smoked regular cigs at all and cloves never bothered me. weird.

El Scorcho · 05-02-2003, 01:51 PM

Yeah, it's just like that with some I guess. I smoke Marb Reds, but I can't even look at any fucking Camel cigarette without getting all green at the gills.

jczeroman · 05-02-2003, 02:23 PM

Yea, see, i never smoke cigs... only pipes and cigars (and those on rare occasions). I just smoked some clove cigs and they blew me away... I had a lot of trouble handling them...

crescentfresh · 05-02-2003, 03:12 PM

Cloves are disgusting. My boss smokes them just like a regular cigarette smoker would. I think I might start smoking them, just to get me to quit.

Nimrod's Son · 05-02-2003, 04:11 PM

I like 'em occasionally. I used to smoke them regularly. Djarum changed them dramatically about a year and a half ago, and I don't like the new ones nearly as much.

jczeroman · 05-02-2003, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by crescentfresh
My boss smokes them just like a regular cigarette smoker would.

that is insane. I am still sick from just a few... damn.

jczeroman · 05-02-2003, 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by Nimrod's Son
I used to smoke them regularly.

I hear they are strong enough to make one's lungs bleed. Is this true?

Nimrod's Son · 05-02-2003, 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by jczeroman

I hear they are strong enough to make one's lungs bleed. Is this true?

There's a lot of misinformation. No, I don't believe this to be true. I think the main reason you felt ill is that you're not a regular smoker. If you were, it wouldn't have been a big deal. They probably wouldn't have affected you as much as a cigar would, if you inhaled it.

dusty · 05-02-2003, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by jczeroman
I hear they are strong enough to make one's lungs bleed. Is this true?

edit: maybe instead of saying "yes" i should just say that i can't be too sure. but i knew a guy who smoked them like cigarettes until one day he started coughing up blood. he had been smoking them for a year and a half.
i used to smoke cloves all the time, i loved those things. they never made me sick or anything. but then after a while my chest started feeling really heavy all the time. i don't know if it was the cloves or just panic attacks, but i stopped smoking them after that anyway.
now the thought of smoking one makes me feel all.... shaky i guess you could say. they are too intense for me now.

crescentfresh · 05-02-2003, 05:44 PM

actually, i just smoked a vanilla Djarum and it was tasty shit

dusty · 05-02-2003, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by Nimrod's Son
If you were, it wouldn't have been a big deal.

exactly. it also depends on how many you smoked. did you chain smoke them? because that would make any non smoker, and even some smokers, sick. you are inhaling smoke after all.

dusty · 05-02-2003, 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by crescentfresh
actually, i just smoked a vanilla Djarum and it was tasty shit

oh yeah! have you tried them cherry ones? those are the shit

DeviousJ · 05-02-2003, 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by dusty
oh yeah! have you tried them cherry ones? those are the shit

What the hell? HEY DON'T SMOKE KIDS

crescentfresh · 05-02-2003, 05:57 PM

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oh yeah! have you tried them cherry ones? those are the shit

OMG I WAS JUST THINKING HOW GOOD CHERRY WOULD BE BECAUSE IT IS THE BEST FLAVOR EVER!!!!

I'm clove shopping soon.

jczeroman · 05-02-2003, 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by Nimrod's Son
They probably wouldn't have affected you as much as a cigar would, if you inhaled it.

I usualy am gentle with a cigar and then do a lot of inhalation at the end for a buzz.. but those cloves just knocked me for a loop... oh well

jczeroman · 05-02-2003, 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by dusty
did you chain smoke them? because that would make any non smoker, and even some smokers, sick. you are inhaling smoke after all.

nah, I just had my own and we were just hangin gout... we even had a pipe before

ammy · 05-02-2003, 06:40 PM

Do NOT inhale cloves!

gah. The smoke in cloves is barbed, like asbestos, and it sticks in your lungs and really tears them up. I know many people who smoked cloves (some inhalers, and some not) who started caughing up blood after a long period (like a year or more) of time.

Cloves are yummy, but you do NOT inhale, and you do not do it for a long long time..

that's my input.

jczeroman · 05-02-2003, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by Ammy

Cloves are yummy, but you do NOT inhale, and you do not do it for a long long time..

that's my input.

how can i get a good buzz?

ammy · 05-02-2003, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by jczeroman

how can i get a good buzz?

I honestly don't think cloves are for buzzes, but whatever, just having the smoke in your mouth would do it, absobtion through your uhm.. mouth-skin...

jczeroman · 05-02-2003, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by Ammy

I honestly don't think cloves are for buzzes, but whatever, just having the smoke in your mouth would do it, absobtion through your uhm.. mouth-skin...

hmmm... I shall ahve to consider these things I suppose.. but I definitely wont do them more then 1-2 times a year.

ammy · 05-02-2003, 06:52 PM

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Originally posted by jczeroman

but I definitely wont do them more then 1-2 times a year.

hm. well if THAT's the case, inhale all you want, once or twice a year isn't gunna kill you at all.

the barby things in the smoke are biodegradable as asbestos is not. so after time it does go away. but when it's there it causes harm

jczeroman · 05-02-2003, 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by Ammy

hm. well if THAT's the case, inhale all you want, once or twice a year isn't gunna kill you at all.

the barby things in the smoke are biodegradable as asbestos is not. so after time it does go away. but when it's there it causes harm

Thanks Ammy, you've been most helpful, even if you think Canada is better then the US

jenniferkate · 05-02-2003, 10:36 PM

mmmmm cloves!

http://tobaccocache.safeshopper.com/images/bx16dmfv.jpg

05-02-2003, 01:16 PM	#1
jczeroman Socialphobic Location: In my house. Posts: 14,465	On cloves So I had my first bout with cloves last night and I still feel sick. I really enjoy pipes and enjoy a casual smoke. But those cloves... they are pretty intense. I was buzzed like mad and was pretty wobbly all night. Are cloves that intense or am I just weak? I won't do any more for a year or so, crazy.

05-02-2003, 01:33 PM	#2
Random Female Apocalyptic Poster Location: white folks' ghetto, San Diego Posts: 2,005	What? how did you smoke them?

05-02-2003, 01:35 PM	#3
El Scorcho Demi-God Location: I'm not a businessman I'm a BUSINESS, MAN Posts: 408	I smoke cloves very occasionally, but they don't bother me like that. What cigs do you normally smoke?

05-02-2003, 01:40 PM	#5
El Scorcho Demi-God Location: I'm not a businessman I'm a BUSINESS, MAN Posts: 408	I think if you do like, Parliament Lights or Marb Lights or something like that regularly, then cloves might bother you. This one little convenience store place that had a smoking section actually asked my friend to put out his clove because it was making one of their workers sick.

05-02-2003, 01:51 PM	#7
El Scorcho Demi-God Location: I'm not a businessman I'm a BUSINESS, MAN Posts: 408	Yeah, it's just like that with some I guess. I smoke Marb Reds, but I can't even look at any fucking Camel cigarette without getting all green at the gills.

05-02-2003, 02:23 PM	#8
jczeroman Socialphobic Location: In my house. Posts: 14,465	Yea, see, i never smoke cigs... only pipes and cigars (and those on rare occasions). I just smoked some clove cigs and they blew me away... I had a lot of trouble handling them...

05-02-2003, 03:12 PM	#9
crescentfresh Minion of Satan Location: Diego Posts: 6,657	Cloves are disgusting. My boss smokes them just like a regular cigarette smoker would. I think I might start smoking them, just to get me to quit.

05-02-2003, 04:11 PM	#10
Nimrod's Son Master of Karate and Friendship Location: in your butt Posts: 72,943	I like 'em occasionally. I used to smoke them regularly. Djarum changed them dramatically about a year and a half ago, and I don't like the new ones nearly as much.

05-02-2003, 05:44 PM	#15
crescentfresh Minion of Satan Location: Diego Posts: 6,657	actually, i just smoked a vanilla Djarum and it was tasty shit

05-02-2003, 06:40 PM	#22
ammy yer mom Posts: 23,180	Do NOT inhale cloves! gah. The smoke in cloves is barbed, like asbestos, and it sticks in your lungs and really tears them up. I know many people who smoked cloves (some inhalers, and some not) who started caughing up blood after a long period (like a year or more) of time. Cloves are yummy, but you do NOT inhale, and you do not do it for a long long time.. that's my input.

05-02-2003, 10:36 PM	#28
jenniferkate bitch please. Location: wicked witch of the east coast Posts: 5,682	mmmmm cloves! http://tobaccocache.safeshopper.com/images/bx16dmfv.jpg