Well since they're already killing me - what Christmas song drives you nuts?

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by waltermcphilp

don't forget to give the book keeping staff an extra bucket of coal.

you know in the 1870s coal was a very wonderful present and they would be glad to get it.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by KrazeeStacee

It's an excuse for people to take time out of their busy lives to remember what's important - family.

for people who think family is important

i think christmas forces people to fit into this little bracket, and this whole guilt trip you're trying to lay on is kind of a testament to that fact.

besides if family is so fucking important why is it just one or two times out of the year when you see them? because they're annoying that's why. why do we have new years? so we can get away from the goddamn family and get wasted.

and what exactly is important about family, anyway?

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

i think christmas forces people to fit into this little bracket, and this whole guilt trip you're trying to lay on is kind of a testament to that fact.

besides if family is so fucking important why is it just one or two times out of the year when you see them? because they're annoying that's why. why do we have new years? so we can get away from the goddamn family and get wasted.

I'm going to have to agree with Trots on this issue. For the most part this is exactly how I feel about Christmas.

I do, however, try to give my family good gifts for Christmas, because when I was younger my family always went out of their way to give good gifts, despite the fact that we weren't exactly well-off. I try to reflect that sentiment.

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

waa waa waa nobody loves me so i feel alone and sad at christmas and i hate my family so i'll act like i hate christmas waah waah waaaaahmbulance

[KrazeeStacee]

Well apparently my situation is a lot different than yours and that's why I see it differently. I enjoy my family's company. Both sides. I especially love to go see Mark's family cuz they're all awesome and I love them to pieces. Since they live 8 hours away it's hard to see them unless it's on a vacation because I don't have the time. I only get 2 vacations out of the year, so that's only twice that I get to see them. This Christmas I got lucky because it's Mon/Tues so I get a long weekend and I can go down there to have the family all together. Plus since it's Christmas, everyone down there gets days off too so we don't have to try to work around their work schedules like we do normally when we're down there in the summer.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

http://forums.invisionpower.com/styl...ault/santa.gif

[Trotskilicious]

well on the flip side of that most of my family is loaded and they never really gave any gifts. i got stuff from my parents, of course. this is convenient since now that i'm older i don't participate in the holiday and don't have any guilt trips when i get gifts from family. and it's certainly not bitterness, as a child i loved christmas because I got lots of shit. as i got older i stopped making "lists" and even asking for things. my mother sent me a blackadder vhs box set last year and I loved it, but maybe that was for my birthday. either way, that was all i got and i appreciated it because it was for me and from my mother. it wasn't some anonymous regional packaged food shipment that I got from relatives in California or Colorado with an impersonal chain letter stapled to the front of it.

i would much rather give people stuff for their birthdays than for christmas. it's more about the person you're giving to than "the season."

although i am thinking of sending cards with calvin & hobbes snowman art wishing a happy solstice or something. maybe with an entirely fictional chain letter stapled to it.

[Trotskilicious]

and i knew nimrod would show up at one point with some half-assed attempt to flame me. it's really predictable.

my family consistently tries to get me to visit on holidays and i just don't. it doesn't have anything to do with feeling "loved" you impossible asshead.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by KrazeeStacee

Well apparently my situation is a lot different than yours and that's why I see it differently. I enjoy my family's company. Both sides. I especially love to go see Mark's family cuz they're all awesome and I love them to pieces. Since they live 8 hours away it's hard to see them unless it's on a vacation because I don't have the time. I only get 2 vacations out of the year, so that's only twice that I get to see them. This Christmas I got lucky because it's Mon/Tues so I get a long weekend and I can go down there to have the family all together.

Here's the flip-side of the coin.

My mom's side of the family is filled with temperamental nutjobs who spend the holidays essentially doing nothing but bitching about the "liberals" in the government and telling stories about their respective nutjob lives and comparing which of them has led the craziest life during that year. They have issues...scary issues, and I'm sick of spending my Christmases hearing about them. I also have a pile of cousins who do nothing but run around screaming and shouting when they're not whining because I want to catch up on the basketball game instead of sitting through yet another lame Disney movie that they don't even watch. There's a reason why I didn't go to my grandparent's house for dinner after I came home from work on Thanksgiving.

My dad's side of the family isn't quite as dysfunctional, but I don't get to see them nearly as often.

[KrazeeStacee]

Well that's all cool and dandy then, Brendan. I respect the way you feel, it sucks that you can't enjoy the holidays but to each their own I suppose. I was under the impression at first that you enjoyed spending time with the family, just hated the consumerism. But if spending time with the family is lame and boring to you, I can get that. Just wanted to clear all that up.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

http://forums.invisionpower.com/styl...ault/santa.gif

Take that shit outside.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

my family consistently tries to get me to visit on holidays and i just don't.

I was fortunate enough to spend last Christmas Eve in Detroit watching a Lions game at Ford Field and hitting up Greektown Casino as opposed to sitting through the usual family shenanigans. Best Christmas Ever, I might add.

[Tchocky]

Hey Trots, this one's for you:

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[KrazeeStacee]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Here's the flip-side of the coin.

My mom's side of the family is filled with temperamental nutjobs who spend the holidays essentially doing nothing but bitching about the "liberals" in the government and telling stories about their respective nutjob lives and comparing which of them has led the craziest life during that year. They have issues...scary issues, and I'm sick of spending my Christmases hearing about them. I also have a pile of cousins who do nothing but run around screaming and shouting when they're not whining because I want to catch up on the basketball game instead of sitting through yet another lame Disney movie that they don't even watch. There's a reason why I didn't go to my grandparent's house for dinner after I came home from work on Thanksgiving.

My dad's side of the family isn't quite as dysfunctional, but I don't get to see them nearly as often.

Yeah I guess I'm lucky - I have a small family, my Mom's always been a no-bullshit kinda person so we've never had to deal with the big crazy family part. My Dad's side is just him, his wife and my Grandpa. And Mark's family is just awesome...I can sit around and smoke pot with them and talk to them about anything, they make a big fuss about us coming in so they try to make sure everything's nice for us and we have good meals and all that. We sit up till 4am singing songs Mark plays on guitar, telling stories, laughing and having a good time.

I'm lucky - all the more reason for me to be the way I am about Christmas. To be thankful and appreciative of having such wonderful people in my life...and all the more reason to buy them nice things to try to make up for the tons of wonderful things they've done for us. You know?

[KrazeeStacee]

Different strokes for different folks!

[waltermcphilp]

could be worse, you could be jewish during the holidays.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by waltermcphilp

could be worse, you could be jewish during the holidays.

Then I'd have eight crazy nights as opposed to just one, yeah, very funny, NEXT!

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by KrazeeStacee

it sucks that you can't enjoy the holidays

oh brother

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by KrazeeStacee

all the more reason to buy them nice things to try to make up for the tons of wonderful things they've done for us. You know?

*bangs head on desk*

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

I was fortunate enough to spend last Christmas Eve in Detroit watching a Lions game at Ford Field and hitting up Greektown Casino as opposed to sitting through the usual family shenanigans. Best Christmas Ever, I might add.

my favorite thanksgiving was my sophomore year of college when i stayed on campus to "catch up" on school. I was pretty much caught up but that was the excuse I used to smoke a lot of weed on my balcony because I was the only person on campus. It was truly amazing. The entire parking lot for the aparment dorms was completely empty except for my car. I felt like the last man on earth. I went on walks through a totally vacated campus, blowing up joints in front of administration buildings and what not.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

my favorite thanksgiving was my sophomore year of college when i stayed on campus to "catch up" on school. I was pretty much caught up but that was the excuse I used to smoke a lot of weed on my balcony because I was the only person on campus. It was truly amazing. The entire parking lot for the aparment dorms was completely empty except for my car. I felt like the last man on earth. I went on walks through a totally vacated campus, blowing up joints in front of administration buildings and what not.

Awesome.

Sometimes you just need some time to yourself.

[KrazeeStacee]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

*bangs head on desk*

What, you don't think buying someone some concert tickets to a show they'd like to see because they constantly make you good food and do all kinds of nice things for you to help you out is a good cause to be a consumer? Get over it, man. There's a difference for buying things for the sake of buying things - and buying things for someone as a gift as a sign of appreciation for what they do for you.

[yo soy el mejor]

i have not heard one christmas song so far

[ravenguy2000]

this is the most unacceptable of christmas songs

[sickbadthing]

Originally Posted by yo soy el mejor

i have not heard one christmas song so far