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Old 10-04-2002, 07:59 PM   #61
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by the way, from what I've read during the killings some serial killers go into a sort of trance and it just kind of becomes this weird animal instinct and they don't know what they've done.. kind of a half dream like state. Obviously there are others though who have a 'motive' of their own (or an outside force) for the killings.

 
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Old 10-04-2002, 08:02 PM   #62
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Old 10-04-2002, 08:04 PM   #63
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um. i copy and paste the url (right click, properties) then i click on the IMG button and paste the url into the box that pops up.

 
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Old 10-04-2002, 08:08 PM   #64
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i'm not talking about worse. i think as long as there's some reason like. some reason that can be derived from real life or sort of substantial facts of the matter or something like even if they still don't make sense. like tim mcveigh blowing up a building because of waco or because he's declaring war on the g'vt or because whatever, it at least, i mean you can say 'that's wrong' or 'that's stupid' but you can't say that is so bizarre and fucking creepy. but that guy who murdered john lennon, that is so bizarre and creepy, because why did he do it? because he read some book? i still don't get it. it's just scary how some people come to some conclusions like. i don't know.
Well the more I've read on the matter, it doesn't seem so cut and dried. Like it's possible he wasn't the mastermind behind the bombing, and when he confessed he was protecting everyone else... which would make him a martyr, and although he'd be protecting people who shouldn't be protected, it's a lot better than actually being guilty of the real crime. I don't know if you actually meant to abstract it this way, but you described what happened as 'blowing up a building' - but it was a calculated attempt to kill people. I mean, if it was symbolic and an attempt to destroy part of the government's infrastructure, it could have been done at night. And that's not to mention the whole creche thing. He was obviously an intelligent man, and he seemed like a really nice guy with some good views on many matters... which is why it's so creepy that someone like that could perpetrate a mass killing so easily. He may not have sought out people individually and murdered them one by one, but he still knew what the result was going to be.

 
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Old 10-04-2002, 08:09 PM   #65
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Old 10-04-2002, 08:11 PM   #66
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Old 10-04-2002, 08:15 PM   #67
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Well the more I've read on the matter, it doesn't seem so cut and dried. Like it's possible he wasn't the mastermind behind the bombing, and when he confessed he was protecting everyone else... which would make him a martyr, and although he'd be protecting people who shouldn't be protected, it's a lot better than actually being guilty of the real crime. I don't know if you actually meant to abstract it this way, but you described what happened as 'blowing up a building' - but it was a calculated attempt to kill people. I mean, if it was symbolic and an attempt to destroy part of the government's infrastructure, it could have been done at night. And that's not to mention the whole creche thing. He was obviously an intelligent man, and he seemed like a really nice guy with some good views on many matters... which is why it's so creepy that someone like that could perpetrate a mass killing so easily. He may not have sought out people individually and murdered them one by one, but he still knew what the result was going to be.
oh yeah. it's absolutely vague. i mean. 'blowing up a building'. yeah. i do think, i think, that the building had at least more symbolic importance than the people, the building being a *federal* building and the people being, as tim mcveigh put it, 'collateral damage'. umm. yeah. no one reallly knows. not sure they'll ever know. he claims he didn't know there were children in the building. then he says iraq had daycare centers in government buildings and the us blew them up or something or that the us says the us daycare centers are 'convenient' while the iraq daycare centers are like, a 'protection' or, god knows if he knew there were children in there. i don't know why he'd lie about it when he already said they were collateral damage and he wasn't sorry. i don't know.

 
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Old 10-04-2002, 08:18 PM   #68
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as for why theyd idn't do it at night, why should they? i mean they obviously didn't care TOO much about saving people's lives i just don't think it was the main purpose to kill people. or if it was it was sort of a means to an ends.

 
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